IRC log of rdb2rdf on 2010-10-19

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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7322733
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ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
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Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:47:26 [trackbot]
Date: 19 October 2010
15:47:31 [mhausenblas]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010Oct/0048.html
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Chair: Michael
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scribenick: hhalpin
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Zakim, please dial ericP
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I am sorry, ericP; I do not know a number for ericP
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Zakim, please dial ericP-office
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ok, ericP; the call is being made
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SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has now started
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+EricP
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+mhausenblas
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-mhausenblas
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+mhausenblas
15:58:21 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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+ +1.512.232.aaaa
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zakim, aa is me
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sorry, juansequeda, I do not recognize a party named 'aa'
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Zakim, aaaa is juansequeda
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+juansequeda; got it
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+PatH
15:59:39 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, cygri is with me
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+cygri; got it
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+Alexandre
15:59:51 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who'd here?
15:59:51 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, mhausenblas.
15:59:55 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who's here?
15:59:55 [Zakim]
On the phone I see EricP, mhausenblas, juansequeda, PatH, Alexandre
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mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
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On IRC I see cygri, boris, PatH, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, juansequeda, hhalpin, MacTed, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:00:32 [Zakim]
+??P12
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16:00:40 [hhalpin]
Zakim, ??P12 is hhalpin
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+hhalpin; got it
16:00:49 [hhalpin]
Zakim, mute me
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hhalpin should now be muted
16:01:13 [boris]
I'm having problems with the passcode
16:01:23 [hhalpin]
Zakim, what's the code?
16:01:23 [Zakim]
the conference code is 7322733 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), hhalpin
16:01:24 [ericP]
dialing from skype?
16:01:35 [hhalpin]
Make sure you are typing it in correctly, but it does work via Skype.
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+Kingsley_Idehen
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(at least on linux skype debian)
16:01:46 [MacTed]
Zakim, Kingsley_Idehen is OpenLink_Software
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+OpenLink_Software; got it
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Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
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+MacTed; got it
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Zakim, mute me
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MacTed should now be muted
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Zakim, mute me
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juansequeda should now be muted
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Zakim, mute Alexandre
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Alexandre should now be muted
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+nunolopes
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Zakim, mute me
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nunolopes should now be muted
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topic: Admin
16:04:18 [mhausenblas]
PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
16:04:31 [Zakim]
+Souri
16:04:48 [juansequeda]
+1
16:04:55 [hhalpin]
RESOLVED: Accepted the minutes of last meeting, see http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
16:05:00 [mhausenblas]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/open
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dialing in right now
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ACTION-63?
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ACTION-63 -- Michael Hausenblas to incorporate Orri's input re datatypes into UCR doc -- due 2010-10-22 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/63
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ACTION-69?
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ACTION-69 -- Daniel Daniel Miranker to work on UC&R on OLAP application -- due 2010-10-22 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/69
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Zakim, unmute me
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juansequeda should no longer be muted
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+Seema
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Zakim, unmute me
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hhalpin should no longer be muted
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Zakim, mute me
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juansequeda should now be muted
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Dan should have is Invited Expert Status, I forwarded his e-mail to Team IE process.
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Zakim, mute me
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hhalpin should now be muted
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mhausenblas: will go after those two use-cases
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topic: R2ML mapping
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+[IPcaller]
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/
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latest version is at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/Overview.html
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Zakim, IPcaller is soeren
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+soeren; got it
16:07:18 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see EricP, mhausenblas, juansequeda (muted), PatH, Alexandre (muted), hhalpin (muted), MacTed (muted), nunolopes (muted), Souri, Seema, soeren
16:07:21 [Zakim]
mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
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On IRC I see soeren, Souri, Seema, nunolopes, cygri, boris, PatH, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, juansequeda, hhalpin, MacTed, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:07:41 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: update?
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:07:47 [hhalpin]
cygri: I did quite a bit of work on section 1
16:07:59 [hhalpin]
... the announcement was sent out over e-mail.
16:08:26 [hhalpin]
... tried to explain how the entire thing works, then goes into detail about how Turtle is being used.
16:08:45 [Seema]
latest version od the document should be 1.17
16:08:49 [hhalpin]
... and looking at the overall execution environment
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Souri: I worked more on the examples that we have
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... tried to make it clearer in terms of properties
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... using in-line examples, from full example in appendix
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... so they make sense as people are reading
16:09:52 [hhalpin]
Seema: we reworded things
16:10:24 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: it seems to address all the issues
16:11:52 [hhalpin]
cygri: what is critical obstacle for putting this out to the public?
16:12:04 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: I'm happy to propose to put this out as first public working draft
16:12:12 [Marcelo]
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16:12:37 [hhalpin]
... you would need concrete suggestion to text change if you disagree
16:12:45 [hhalpin]
PatH: the version I'm looking for it
16:12:49 [Zakim]
+Marcelo
16:12:57 [hhalpin]
Zakim, unmute me
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hhalpin should no longer be muted
16:13:11 [Marcelo]
Sorry I am late again (I am teaching until 16:00 UTC)
16:13:50 [hhalpin]
hhalpin: that is why can put the issues up
16:13:58 [hhalpin]
soeren: PatH's points in previous e-mail
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hhalpin: the two points was the confusion over 2 uses of turtle
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PatH: this document is the mapping, doesn't tell you.
16:16:38 [MacTed]
Zakim, unmute me
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MacTed should no longer be muted
16:17:11 [Souri]
we have put some comments regarding the mapping in: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/#R2rmlOverview
16:18:02 [juansequeda]
Zakim, unmute me
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juansequeda should no longer be muted
16:18:25 [hhalpin]
PatH: the Turtle defines a class of mapping, needs to tell you more about the kinds of mapping
16:18:52 [hhalpin]
ericP: would it possible for an examples in the Turtle language and generated RDF help?
16:19:16 [hhalpin]
... would that put the reader on the mapping
16:19:24 [Souri]
@@ Proposed text from the call: “A row in a relational table has <a row identifier> and a number of <column-name, value> pairs. Such a row may be translated to RDF as follows: subject := MAP(<row identifier>) and <predicate, object> := <MAP(column-name), MAP(value)>, for each <column-name, value> pair. An RDF triple is generated by combining the above as follows: <subject, predicate, object>.”
16:19:29 [hhalpin]
MacTed: The R2ML doc is in context of some other documentation
16:19:34 [soeren]
+q
16:19:45 [hhalpin]
... in primary, the use-case document
16:19:57 [mhausenblas]
ack soeren
16:20:16 [hhalpin]
soeren: how does this relate to the semantics of the mapping
16:20:29 [hhalpin]
q+
16:20:34 [hhalpin]
... ideally we could define the mapping between SPARQL and SQL relational algebra
16:20:51 [hhalpin]
... I drafted this small test document
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... where I have a very simple definition of this mapping
16:21:02 [betehess]
q+ to ask if someone can define what is "semantics" here? where are not defining an algebra, only a mapping
16:21:09 [Souri]
q+
16:21:15 [hhalpin]
... but it may be difficult to align with the current mapping
16:21:16 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:21:37 [mhausenblas]
ack hhalpin
16:21:39 [hhalpin]
PatH: Explain to the reader what is being talked about in this document
16:22:36 [soeren]
+q
16:23:42 [juansequeda]
+1 to hhalpin
16:23:51 [MacTed]
q+ to talk about setting context within the doc... each must refer to the others that are key/important to its understanding
16:23:52 [mhausenblas]
+1 as well
16:23:57 [betehess]
Zakim, unmute Alexandre
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Alexandre should no longer be muted
16:24:04 [mhausenblas]
ack betehess
16:24:04 [Zakim]
betehess, you wanted to ask if someone can define what is "semantics" here? where are not defining an algebra, only a mapping
16:24:32 [juansequeda]
hhalpin: the R2RML document is for database admin who are going to write the mapping language.
16:24:39 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:24:42 [hhalpin]
hhalpin: let's not define too much in a single document
16:24:46 [hhalpin]
q+
16:24:53 [hhalpin]
BetHess: there is no semantics as function from input to output
16:25:11 [hhalpin]
Marcelo: we are trying to define the syntax and semantics of the mapping
16:25:17 [Marcelo]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Semantics_of_R2RML
16:25:41 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:25:46 [Marcelo]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Database-Instance-Only_and_Database-Instances-and-Schema_Mapping
16:26:12 [hhalpin]
BetHess: I don't see the goal, another document about semantics, another document about syntax
16:26:16 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:26:20 [Marcelo]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directGraph/
16:26:23 [hhalpin]
BetHess: I see no relation with current document
16:26:24 [hhalpin]
Marcelo: This is what we are trying to do
16:27:00 [hhalpin]
... so we have several proposals
16:27:04 [hhalpin]
... the right way to define semantics of mapping
16:27:21 [hhalpin]
BetHess: I see a semantics from Datalog
16:27:40 [hhalpin]
Marcelo: This is a proposal, but we haven't made a formal decision
16:27:47 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:27:48 [hhalpin]
... but it's just one alternative
16:27:52 [cygri]
q+
16:28:19 [hhalpin]
Marcelo: Datalog gives us a precise semantics, and EricP...
16:28:28 [hhalpin]
Juan: Datalog is equivlaent to SPARQL, SQL, and RIF, so it's fine
16:28:51 [hhalpin]
BetHess: Only if you accept your output is URI or a blank node
16:30:44 [Marcelo]
+q
16:30:56 [Souri]
just for quick reference, let me put the preliminary proposed text (from Sec 2) for informally explaining the input and output for the mapping
16:31:10 [mhausenblas]
ack Souri
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@@ Proposed text from the call: “A row in a relational table has <a row identifier> and a number of <column-name, value> pairs. Such a row may be translated to RDF as follows: subject := MAP(<row identifier>) and <predicate, object> := <MAP(column-name), MAP(value)>, for each <column-name, value> pair. An RDF triple is generated by combining the above as follows: <subject, predicate, object>.”
16:31:51 [hhalpin]
Souri: we proposed how to do this informally, and then we are describing with a row how to get a bunch of triples out of it.
16:31:51 [mhausenblas]
Michael: I totally agree with hhalpin summary. let's define input/output on the syntax and then focus on finding the 'fitting' model/semantics
16:31:57 [betehess]
please, can you show me how people define mappings from one model to another one? no mention of semantics is required in the answer
16:32:12 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:32:28 [mhausenblas]
ack soeren
16:33:29 [betehess]
hhalpin, give me an example
16:33:55 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:34:06 [betehess]
[ hhalpin: you create a model that can be proven to express everything in the two models you want to map, and then you use that first model to express the mapping language ]
16:34:06 [hhalpin]
soeren: I think we should have the R2ML be purely for implementers of the mapping languge
16:34:12 [mhausenblas]
ack MacTed
16:34:12 [Zakim]
MacTed, you wanted to talk about setting context within the doc... each must refer to the others that are key/important to its understanding
16:34:16 [hhalpin]
... and that database admins will not read the R2ML language
16:34:49 [hhalpin]
MacTed: We can describe what you can say with this kind of langugae without actually saying it
16:35:06 [juansequeda]
betehess: Consider the schema: student(s_id, name)
16:35:06 [hhalpin]
... this R2ML definition language, absolutely and unequivocally relies of comprehension and context of other documents
16:35:14 [hhalpin]
... we have to either restate those documents
16:35:18 [juansequeda]
and consider instance student(1, Bob)
16:35:20 [hhalpin]
... we have to point to the other documents.
16:35:23 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:35:30 [juansequeda]
This is the mapping: Triple(s, p, y) ← student(x, y), generateTupleURI("student", x, s), generateAttributeURI("student", "name", p)
16:35:39 [PatH]
+1 to whoever is speaking right now.
16:35:42 [juansequeda]
This is the output: Triple(http://www.example.com/DB/student/1#, http://www.example.com/DB/student/name#, "Bob")
16:35:43 [hhalpin]
... r2rl follows after the default mapping in a conceptual way
16:35:54 [PatH]
tnx
16:36:03 [betehess]
juansequeda, I want an example in real life, where people defined a mapping between 2 different models (HINT: it's call "compilation")
16:36:11 [betehess]
+1 PatH
16:36:44 [juansequeda]
betehess, I just gave you an example of mapping from relations to triples
16:36:48 [hhalpin]
hhalpin: so to clarify to BetHess, if you can show datamodel A can be expressed in datamodel C, and so can datamodel B, then you use datamodel C. Maybe Google "Abstraction Theorem"
16:37:15 [hhalpin]
MacTed: it's a related specification
16:37:19 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:37:26 [hhalpin]
... we need to make sure it says it relies on the mapping document
16:37:37 [hhalpin]
ericP: people should read the previous document first.
16:37:45 [betehess]
juansequeda, a triple is not a relation, here it is http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-concepts-20040210/#section-Graph-syntax
16:38:13 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:38:13 [juansequeda]
betehess, I'm not saying that a triple is a relation. I just show you a way to map a relation to a triple
16:38:29 [mhausenblas]
ack hhalpin
16:38:49 [ericP]
q+ to propose a way to use examples to move this document forwards
16:39:12 [mhausenblas]
q+ to propose next steps
16:40:44 [betehess]
hhalpin, I don't follow you re: datamodels A B C. Please give me an example in real life. No semantics, just "how?"
16:41:07 [mhausenblas]
ack cygri
16:41:57 [mhausenblas]
ack Marcelo
16:42:54 [hhalpin]
hhalpin: We should test for consensus next week
16:43:05 [mhausenblas]
ack ericP
16:43:05 [Zakim]
ericP, you wanted to propose a way to use examples to move this document forwards
16:43:13 [hhalpin]
... but eveyrone should read the document next week.
16:43:21 [hhalpin]
... and send arguments to the list-serv.
16:43:54 [ericP]
[[
16:43:55 [ericP]
The RDB2RDF WG is producing a mapping from relational databases to RDF graphs.
16:43:55 [ericP]
The mapping parameteters are controlled by another RDF graph.
16:43:56 [ericP]
This document describes that graph and begins to elucidate the mapping with inline examples; it does not yet define the mapping.
16:43:57 [hhalpin]
... and then we can see what parts of direct mapping can be put into R2ML document re normative dependencies
16:43:59 [ericP]
]]
16:44:02 [juansequeda]
+1 to ericP. Add more examples to R2RML document to get this out
16:44:12 [hhalpin]
Marcelo: What we are hoping is that Datalog can express it as rules
16:44:29 [mhausenblas]
ack me
16:44:29 [Zakim]
mhausenblas, you wanted to propose next steps
16:44:32 [hhalpin]
ericP: If we kept it example driven and added in the above text
16:44:34 [hhalpin]
+1 ericP
16:44:37 [juansequeda]
I would recommend to put the appendix example in the beginning as a running example
16:44:44 [PatH]
+1 Eric
16:45:01 [juansequeda]
q+
16:45:27 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: people can propose complete textual changes
16:46:09 [hhalpin]
... but we need to make sure these very direct and valid questions can be put forward by Friday
16:46:20 [hhalpin]
... so this would allow the editors to know if they hvae addressed the documents
16:46:43 [hhalpin]
... then we review to see if they have all been addressed by next week.
16:46:44 [mhausenblas]
ack juansequeda
16:46:52 [hhalpin]
juan: I really back up by what Eric just said
16:47:46 [hhalpin]
juan: and then we can have concrete input-output examples
16:48:02 [hhalpin]
... moving appendix to right after Section 1.
16:48:26 [ericP]
q+ to say that *all* of those examples might be a bunch to front-load; propose sprinkling them in
16:48:30 [Souri]
q+
16:48:35 [MacTed]
+1 running example
16:48:40 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:48:48 [hhalpin]
+1 running example, but maybe "build" it up over time.
16:48:58 [mhausenblas]
ack ericP
16:48:58 [Zakim]
ericP, you wanted to say that *all* of those examples might be a bunch to front-load; propose sprinkling them in
16:49:00 [hhalpin]
... example up front makes much more sense
16:49:25 [hhalpin]
ericP: too much to read up front
16:49:47 [hhalpin]
q+
16:49:53 [juansequeda]
Proposal: move the example in Appendix A to the beginning of the document so it can be treated as a running example
16:49:58 [hhalpin]
Souri: I have a question
16:49:59 [MacTed]
as I understand it ... *basic* statement of example -- "I have this RDB table, which I want to map to this RDF ontology" -- at the beginning
16:50:01 [mhausenblas]
ack Souri
16:50:07 [hhalpin]
... we have inline in the latest example
16:50:27 [MacTed]
then as each bit comes along in the spec, the relevant bite of what is now in App A goes there
16:50:45 [MacTed]
App A *could* (and perhaps *should*) be kept intact where it is as a summation
16:51:05 [PatH]
+1 MacTed
16:51:07 [hhalpin]
+1 MacTed
16:51:35 [Seema]
q+
16:51:44 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: Can you revise Juan's proposal?
16:51:51 [hhalpin]
... Ted?
16:51:51 [mhausenblas]
q?
16:52:06 [mhausenblas]
ack hhalpin
16:52:10 [mhausenblas]
ack Seema
16:52:23 [hhalpin]
Seema: a first question for Juan or just the specification of the table
16:52:30 [MacTed]
Proposal: copy *basic* statement of example from Appendix A to beginning of document; then inline relevant bite from App A with the document segment it applies to; then present complete example as Appendix A
16:52:51 [hhalpin]
... i.e. put the tables and triples together at the beginning then each section building the mapping little by little
16:54:03 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: are these instructions sufficient?
16:54:28 [hhalpin]
Souri: Your saying that the input to the mapping should be explained in the beginning and put right up front
16:54:45 [hhalpin]
... then we build up each of them
16:54:52 [MacTed]
Zakim, mute me
16:55:01 [Zakim]
MacTed should now be muted
16:55:26 [hhalpin]
... and at the end we give the whole specification for the example,
16:55:30 [mhausenblas]
Michael: copy *basic* statement of example from Appendix A to beginning of document; then inline relevant bite from App A with the document segment it applies to; then present complete example as Appendix A and publish this as FPWD
16:55:36 [hhalpin]
... so we put input first, and then we show how it maps from the example
16:55:43 [hhalpin]
... and then at the end, we show the complete mapping specification.
16:55:45 [mhausenblas]
PROPOSAL: copy *basic* statement of example from Appendix A to beginning of document; then inline relevant bite from App A with the document segment it applies to; then present complete example as Appendix A and publish this as FPWD
16:55:48 [hhalpin]
... is that the proposal?
16:55:56 [hhalpin]
juan: yes, input should be first
16:56:00 [hhalpin]
Souri: sounds fine to me!
16:56:48 [MacTed]
+1 proposal
16:57:05 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: any objections to proposal?
16:57:06 [Souri]
+1
16:57:06 [hhalpin]
+1
16:57:12 [juansequeda]
+1
16:57:17 [Seema]
+1
16:57:29 [hhalpin]
RESOLVED: copy *basic* statement of example from Appendix A to beginning of document; then inline relevant bite from Appendix A with the document segment it applies to; then present complete example as Appendix A and publish this as FPWD
16:57:46 [mhausenblas]
ACTION: Hausenblas to take care of pubrule check and init publication with W3C team contacts
16:57:46 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-75 - Take care of pubrule check and init publication with W3C team contacts [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-10-26].
16:58:46 [hhalpin]
ACTION: hhalpin to help with publication process
16:58:46 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-76 - Help with publication process [on Harry Halpin - due 2010-10-26].
16:58:54 [hhalpin]
hhalpin: we are OK with publishing, right?
16:58:59 [mhausenblas]
Michael:
16:59:01 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: yes, assuming that proposal is implemented
16:59:25 [hhalpin]
juan: any updates on semantics telecons?
16:59:33 [hhalpin]
ericP: Thursday 2 PM?
17:00:02 [hhalpin]
... 2PM EST
17:00:39 [Zakim]
-Souri
17:01:07 [hhalpin]
ericP: shortname?
17:01:12 [hhalpin]
R2ML?
17:01:30 [mhausenblas]
http://www.w3.org/TR/rdb2rdf-ucr/
17:01:36 [mhausenblas]
http://www.w3.org/TR/rdb2rdf-r2rml/
17:01:44 [hhalpin]
hhalpin: or just www.w3.org/TR/r2rml?
17:01:56 [hhalpin]
short is better IMHO
17:02:06 [cygri]
+1 hhalpin
17:02:20 [MacTed]
short is better ... except that it removes the context of rdb2rdf docs
17:02:26 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: 2 of Nov no telecon.
17:02:44 [betehess]
+1 to rdb2rdf-r2rml
17:03:02 [mhausenblas]
[adjourned]
17:03:17 [hhalpin]
trackbot, end meeting
17:03:17 [trackbot]
Zakim, list attendees
17:03:17 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been EricP, mhausenblas, +1.512.232.aaaa, juansequeda, PatH, cygri, Alexandre, hhalpin, MacTed, nunolopes, Souri, Seema, soeren, Marcelo
17:03:18 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:03:18 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-rdb2rdf-minutes.html trackbot
17:03:19 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
17:03:19 [RRSAgent]
I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-rdb2rdf-actions.rdf :
17:03:19 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Hausenblas to take care of pubrule check and init publication with W3C team contacts [1]
17:03:19 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-rdb2rdf-irc#T16-57-46
17:03:19 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: hhalpin to help with publication process [2]
17:03:19 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-rdb2rdf-irc#T16-58-46