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13:57:38 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:57:39 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
13:57:39 <trackbot> Date: 14 October 2010
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14:00:06 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started
14:00:15 <Zakim> +manu
14:00:45 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Oct/0148.html
14:01:06 <Zakim> +??P26
14:02:07 <Zakim> +ShaneM
14:02:22 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
14:02:23 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), markbirbeck
14:03:01 <Zakim> +??P36
14:03:06 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?
14:03:07 <Zakim> sorry, markbirbeck, I do not see a party named '?'
14:03:23 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am p36
14:03:23 <Zakim> sorry, markbirbeck, I do not see a party named 'p36'
14:03:33 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ??p36
14:03:33 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
14:03:43 <webr3> zakim, i am ??P26
14:03:43 <Zakim> +webr3; got it
14:04:25 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Oct/0148.html
14:04:47 <manu> Topic: ISSUE-37: Clarifying bnodes explanation
14:04:52 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/37
14:05:47 <manu> [[[
14:05:49 <manu> Beyond keeping track of the differences, the processor may choose any internal representation of, for example, _:a and _:b. These representations are not required to be identical on two different runs of the processor on the same RDFa source. Processors are also not required to keep the original names when granting access to the RDF graph. The only requirement is that <em>different</em>...
14:05:50 <manu> ...blank nodes in the original source should be mapped onto <em>different</em> blank nodes, and <em>identical</em> blank nodes should be mapped on <em>identical</em> blank nodes when answering an API request or when serializing the graph.
14:05:52 <manu> ]]]
14:06:40 <markbirbeck> "The argument of
14:06:41 <markbirbeck> whether or not "_:abc" is a true URI or whether it is merely a mapping
14:06:41 <markbirbeck> to RDF's "_" mechanism was discussed as well."
14:10:19 <markbirbeck> "The text says "the following triples will be generated" which is wrong. At the minimum, the 'will' should be a 'may', but it is better if the generated triples explicitly do _not_ use the same blank node identifiers, ie, something like
14:10:20 <markbirbeck> _:xyz foaf:mbox <mailto:john@example.org> .
14:10:20 <markbirbeck> _:abc foaf:mbox <mailto:sue@example.org> .
14:10:20 <markbirbeck> _:xyz foaf:knows _:abc .
14:10:21 <markbirbeck> with an extra comment that draws attention on the fact that different bnode identifiers may be used on output."
14:11:09 <markbirbeck> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Oct/0024.html
14:11:36 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Oct/0100.html
14:13:44 <manu> Topic: RDFa Profile file format
14:13:49 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Sep/0037.html
14:18:18 <markbirbeck> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Oct/0103.html
14:18:44 <manu> Topic: ISSUE-39: RDFa term mapping triples
14:18:51 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/39
14:19:53 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/wiki/ProfileSpec
14:24:01 <markbirbeck> "The 'compromise' solution that was discussed[1] and that very explicitly restricts the domain of discourse of these triples on the processor graph answers many of my concerns, though. As a consequence, and to merge several issues together, I am happy to go with a profile file in RDFa (or RDF in general) with the profile graph related solution."
14:32:23 <manu> @prefix foo: <http://example.org/ns#> .
14:37:22 <manu> Topic: ISSUE-16: RDFa Collections Syntax
14:37:28 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/16
14:39:19 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab/ uses bag
14:47:51 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
14:48:01 <markbirbeck> Hey...what happened there!
14:48:16 <markbirbeck> First time I've ever managed to connect to the UK bridge, and it drops me off. :)
14:48:24 <markbirbeck> Is it worth dialling back?
14:49:17 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
14:49:17 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), markbirbeck
14:49:44 <Zakim> +??P3
14:49:53 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?
14:49:53 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
14:53:24 <Zakim> -ShaneM
14:53:25 <Zakim> -manu
14:53:25 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
14:53:27 <Zakim> -webr3
14:53:27 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended
14:53:29 <Zakim> Attendees were manu, ShaneM, markbirbeck, webr3
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