14:03:37 RRSAgent has joined #webfonts 14:03:37 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/10/06-webfonts-irc 14:05:55 Zakim has joined #webfonts 14:07:50 howcome has joined #webfonts 14:17:16 trackbot start telcon 14:17:34 trackbot, start telcon 14:17:37 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:17:41 Zakim, this will be 3668 14:17:41 ok, trackbot; I see IA_Fonts()10:00AM scheduled to start 17 minutes ago 14:17:43 Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference 14:17:45 Date: 06 October 2010 14:18:32 scribe erik 14:18:54 on the phone, Vlad, Håkon, Erik 14:19:46 Håkon; the normative part of the spec should mention that the notes are non-normative 14:21:21 discussion on normative / non-normative and other W3 specs 14:23:14 Vlad: mixing up normative / non-normative is messy 14:23:49 Vlad: not enough participants to decide anythign. 14:24:38 Håkon: can't accept notes to become normative (did I get that right?) 14:25:19 Håkon: in CSS "notes are informative, not normative" 14:27:37 Vlad: concern that the spec becomes fragmented 14:28:52 Vlad: if notes are non-normative, can the language be a bit more clear cut? 14:29:12 Håkon: best to avoid MUST in non-normative 14:30:26 using normative language in non-normative notes can open arguments and raise confusion 14:31:49 Vlad, Håkon, I lost connection and can't follow the discussion 14:33:09 Dialing in, but zakim does not answer. 14:33:24 gentlemen? 14:35:19 No answer when I dial in. Can I be excused of my scribe duties? 14:39:59 The WOFF-packaged data will typically be decoded to its original sfnt format for use by existing font-rendering APIs that expect OpenType font data, but such a decoded font should not be exposed to other documents or applications. 14:40:12 jdaggett has joined #webfonts 14:41:04 That sounds reasonable. 14:49:09 The WOFF-packaged data will typically be decoded to its original sfnt format for use by existing font-rendering APIs that expect OpenType font data, but such a decoded font must not be exposed to other documents or applications. 14:50:11 The WOFF-packaged data will typically be decoded to its original sfnt format for use by existing font-rendering APIs that expect OpenType font data, but such a decoded font must not be made availabl to other documents or applications. 14:54:57 Agreement to add a normative sentence that says that notes are non-normative 14:55:45 The notes should be coherent with the normative text and should not be ambiguous 14:56:41 The notes should help the implementers to undertstand the maning of the normative text, and should not make any confcliting or ambiguous statements 14:56:51 s/man/mean 14:57:19 s/implementers/implementors and users/ 14:58:08 Agreement to rewrite the first note to make it coherent with the normative text 14:58:32 We will continue this discussion on the email list 15:01:33 The call is adjourn, we will continue the discussions on the email list 15:01:43 tal has left #webfonts 15:01:50 Please submit your proposed agenda items for the F2F in November 15:02:12 I have to run. 15:02:18 rrsagent, generate minutes 15:02:18 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/06-webfonts-minutes.html Vlad 16:32:38 Zakim has left #webfonts