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14:58:28 <kei> Zakim, this will be BioRDF
14:58:34 <Zakim> ok, kei; I see SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
14:58:49 <kei> agenda+ intro [kei]
14:59:46 <kei> agenda+ iswc2010/swpm2010 paper revisions [all]
14:59:58 <kei> agenda+ next phase of biordf [all]
15:00:15 <kei> Zakim, take up next agendum
15:00:16 <Zakim> agendum 1. "intro" taken up [from kei]
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15:01:30 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM has now started
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15:03:05 <jun> zakim, +44.186.528.aaaa is jun
15:03:05 <Zakim> +jun; got it
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15:03:20 <Zakim> +Scott_Marshall
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15:03:55 <matthias_samwald> zakim, [IPcaller] is matthias_samwald
15:03:55 <Zakim> +matthias_samwald; got it
15:07:21 <kei> scribenick lena
15:08:01 <Lena> topic: how to revise the paper based on reviewer's comment
15:08:22 <Lena> email to co-authors with high-level summary to guide the discussion
15:11:19 <mscottm> Zakim, who is here?
15:11:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see jun, Kei_Cheung, +1.206.605.aabb, +1.832.386.aacc, ??P19, Scott_Marshall, matthias_samwald
15:11:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see rfrost_, Lena, mmiller, mscottm, jun, RRSAgent, Zakim, kei, matthias_samwald, ericP
15:14:45 <Lena> who can go to the workshop: jun, eric?
15:15:25 <Lena> Lena can possibly participate remotely
15:16:38 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:16:38 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:16:40 <Zakim> +EricP
15:17:29 <Lena> Lena + Jun prepare the slides
15:19:51 <kei> lena and jun will coordinate how to present the paper
15:20:43 <Lena> summary on the reviewer's comments: concerns about the details
15:21:10 <Lena> be more explicit and details about describing the contribution of our work
15:21:12 <mscottm> Thanks for your patience Jun! Chairing the workshop is already quite a load. Thanks Lena for your willingness to present at odd hours.
15:21:23 <Lena> do we have enough contribution in terms of provennace?
15:21:45 <jun> Scott, no problem:)
15:21:49 <Lena> provenance in the life sciences domain
15:22:24 <Lena> more in-depth discussion + stronger arguments on why we propose a new rdf structure instead of reusing existing ontologies
15:22:50 <kei> lena: one of the contributions: bottom up approach
15:23:22 <kei> lena: convert several datasets into sparql so that they are semantically queriable
15:23:39 <kei> lena: provenance levels were identified
15:26:40 <Lena> kei: we need to address the inconsistency of rapidly evolving ontologies
15:28:33 <Lena> jun: there is no 1 provenance ontology and no guidance on which ontology should be used for a specific purpose
15:28:54 <Lena> jun: how some of the pieces of provenance could be mapped for ontologies such as OPM
15:29:18 <Lena> jun: mapping to OPM is not hard, but is out of the scope of this paper
15:30:27 <Lena> deadline is october 15
15:31:27 <Lena> eric volunteer to be the last pass editor
15:32:31 <Lena> kei: probably changes in the introduction are not needed
15:36:34 <ericP> q+ to ask about semweb outreach ops at VA
15:37:59 <Lena> kei: bioRDF has achieved a lot of milestones during the past year
15:38:24 <Lena> kei: identify a new chair for this task force
15:39:12 <Lena> kei will coninue to contribute to hcls activities but will not chair bioRDF anymore; scott has agreed to be the new chair of the bioRDF task force
15:39:27 <jun> zakim, mute me
15:39:27 <Zakim> jun should now be muted
15:41:41 <Lena> kei: VA ahve a lot of security concerns
15:42:02 <Lena> kei: semantic web still has a potential to be used in this type of data
15:42:50 <Lena> kei: due to information security, semantic web technologies will be difficult to use because data is not to be made public
15:43:04 <Zakim> -EricP
15:43:27 <ericP> am off to an hl7 meeting now
15:44:06 <mscottm> yes, mmiller just pointed out that VA is probably aware of standards, partly through their participation in HL7
15:45:42 <Lena> mscottm: tempting for even people with high security concerns to adopt sem web tech because they get a vocabulary out of it
15:45:53 <Lena> kei: VA has also text  mining projects
15:45:57 <mmiller> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistA
15:49:11 <mscottm> Conor Dowling has done work making VA VistA data accessible from OWL.
15:50:12 <mscottm> Conor has participated in TMO.
15:51:31 <Lena> mscottm: hopes that some day bioRDF will no longer be confused with bio2rdf :D
15:52:31 <mscottm> Kei has done a great job - Thanks Kei!
15:53:43 <jun> Will miss you, Kei!!
15:54:31 <kei> miss you and others too.
15:54:33 <Lena> Thanks for your sharing your visios, Kei 
15:54:42 <Lena> visions...
15:55:12 <Lena> next call: 25th oct
15:55:16 <jun> I can't
15:55:29 <jun> I will be on the road, back to China
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15:55:43 <jun> zakim, unmute me
15:55:43 <Zakim> jun should no longer be muted
15:55:49 <Zakim> -Scott_Marshall
15:55:50 <Zakim> -Kei_Cheung
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15:55:52 <Zakim> -matthias_samwald
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15:55:57 <Zakim> -jun
15:56:11 <mscottm> sorry if we miss you on oct 25 Jun.
15:56:43 <mscottm>   RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:56:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/04-hcls-minutes.html mscottm
15:56:59 <mscottm>   RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
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16:05:05 <Zakim> Attendees were Kei_Cheung, +1.206.605.aabb, +1.832.386.aacc, jun, Scott_Marshall, matthias_samwald, EricP
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