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11:54:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
11:54:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
11:54:35 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
11:54:35 <trackbot> Date: 17 September 2010
11:54:42 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Sep/0031.html
11:54:50 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
11:54:56 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas 
11:55:03 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
11:55:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
11:55:11 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
11:59:33 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM has now started
11:59:40 <Zakim> +Brand
11:59:43 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
11:59:57 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
11:59:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see Brand, mhausenblas
11:59:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, gdick, tlr, k, mhausenblas, MacTed, edsu, sandro, trackbot
12:00:20 <Zakim> + +1.240.515.aaaa
12:00:40 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is k 
12:00:40 <Zakim> +k; got it
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12:01:23 <mib_p4h5vn> good morning
12:01:33 <mhausenblas> hi mib_p4h5vn 
12:01:43 <mhausenblas> plan to dial in mib_p4h5vn? 
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12:02:34 <Brand> Brand has joined #egov
12:03:00 <mhausenblas> anyone else plans to join us on the call? edsu? sandro? MacTed?   
12:03:24 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin
12:03:49 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see http://www.w3.org/2010/09/10-egov-minutes.html
12:04:04 <Brand> +1
12:04:13 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: minutes accepted
12:04:33 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/products/20
12:04:57 <mhausenblas> Topic:  Linked Open Government Application Challenge straw man call
12:05:04 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Projects/GLD_Demo/ChallengeDraft
12:05:32 <mhausenblas> Michael: quite some feedback on the Wiki
12:05:33 <Zakim> + +1.540.898.aabb
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12:06:50 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aabb bhyland 
12:06:50 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aabb bhyland', mhausenblas
12:06:57 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aabb is bhyland 
12:06:57 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it
12:07:04 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
12:07:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Brand, mhausenblas, k, bhyland
12:07:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see bhyland, Brand, Zakim, RRSAgent, gdick, tlr, k, mhausenblas, MacTed, edsu, sandro, trackbot
12:08:43 <mhausenblas> bhyland: had a look, have a question
12:08:59 <mhausenblas> ... are dataset from UK welcome?
12:09:04 <mhausenblas> Michael: yes, global
12:11:14 <mhausenblas> ... let's leave the call open for another week
12:14:08 <mhausenblas> bhyland: think that some US gov agency are in a leapfrog with UK data?
12:14:56 <mhausenblas> Brand: JimH made that a friendly thing - so maybe involve him?
12:15:39 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Projects/GLD_Demo
12:16:37 <Zakim> +gdick
12:16:40 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Michael to find missing minutes from Jul/Aug
12:16:40 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Michael
12:16:40 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. maisenbe, mhausenb)
12:16:52 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Hausenblas to find missing minutes from Jul/Aug
12:16:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-113 - Find missing minutes from Jul/Aug [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-09-24].
12:17:42 <mhausenblas> (discussion around http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Projects/GLD_Demo/ChallengeDraft)
12:18:47 <mhausenblas> k: what are the sponsor groups?
12:19:42 <mhausenblas> LATC http://latc-project.eu/
12:19:52 <mhausenblas> LOD2 http://lod2.eu
12:21:17 <Brand> Sunlight Labs is interested in this and has been a sponsor in the past: see http://sunlightlabs.com/blog/2010/catalog-of-government-publications-bulk-data/#c8554
12:21:22 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Hausenblas to update draft with links to projects
12:21:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-114 - Update draft with links to projects [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-09-24].
12:22:14 <mhausenblas> Michael: Brand, whom to contact?
12:22:21 <mhausenblas> Brand: David James, see link
12:22:50 <bhyland> thanks for write up & link to 24-25 Aug 2010 Mashathon write up.
12:23:25 <mhausenblas> Michael: permanent or one-shot?
12:24:02 <mhausenblas> bhyland: let's see how it works, but a good place to find resources would be great to have
12:24:44 <mhausenblas> k: for a permanent
12:26:32 <mhausenblas> Michael: very much for such a portal for challenges
12:27:00 <mhausenblas> bhyland: such a portal would also be good for vocabs
12:27:09 <mhausenblas> k: AugmentedGovernment
12:27:32 <mhausenblas> s/AugmentedGovernment/AugmentedGovernance
12:27:46 <mhausenblas> (starting the name discussion)
12:27:58 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:27:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
12:29:36 <mhausenblas> (Au == Gold ;)
12:29:52 <MacTed> mhausenblas - regrets from me today; phone issues.  my action continues.  I believe your search for missing minutes will mostly discover cancelled meetings.
12:30:02 <mhausenblas> bhyland: GOLD
12:30:13 <mhausenblas> Gov Open Linked Data apps
12:31:31 <mhausenblas> Michael: based on 5 star plan
12:31:38 <mhausenblas> bhyland: we could extend it
12:32:35 <mhausenblas> Michael: once sandro is around we can also tackle org issues
12:32:53 <mhausenblas> ... would be good to have W3C as co-organiser
12:33:08 <mhausenblas> bhyland: also a profile page/link from eGov IG
12:34:15 <mhausenblas> Michael: still looking for input re use cases/scenarios for the app
12:35:28 <mhausenblas> ... what would we like to see?
12:37:13 <Brand> I suggest a use case that demonstrates searching across multiple data catalogs
12:37:25 <mhausenblas> bhyland: process?
12:37:35 <mhausenblas> Michael: very informal, mail, Wiki, etc
12:38:08 <mhausenblas> Michael: very good point
12:39:57 <mhausenblas> Brand: ORA director pointed out a tool, BeautifulSoup to consume the data
12:41:10 <bhyland> Beautiful Soup doco, see http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/documentation.html
12:41:30 <mhausenblas> Brand: there is a real need for such tools, make catalogs easier to consume
12:41:55 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
12:41:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
12:42:03 <bhyland> The data.gov effort using Beautiful Soup can be read at http://answers.oreilly.com/topic/1974-use-beautifulsoup-to-parse-data-gov/
12:42:28 <mhausenblas> Brand: multiple levels to use
12:42:36 <mhausenblas> ... catalog level, then drill down
12:43:54 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Hausenblas to talk with Richard to create dcat on the fly out from BeautifulSoup interaction
12:43:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-115 - Talk with Richard to create dcat on the fly out from BeautifulSoup interaction [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-09-24].
12:44:06 <bhyland> From Beautiful Soup ORA site, "BeautifulSoup basically takes ugly, ambiguous HTML and creates a nice, clean data structure that you can navigate in code. "
12:44:34 <mhausenblas> gdick: unleash BeautifulSoup on StratML from Owen?
12:45:27 <mhausenblas> bhyland: there are more and more tools available; good to see the community provides more usable tool
12:46:01 <mhausenblas> Brand: also helps re catalog interop
12:46:24 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
12:46:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
12:46:36 <bhyland> Brand suggested that this helps make gov't catalogues both easier to read, complements vocabulary standardization efforts underway.  Great suggestion Brand.
12:46:40 <mhausenblas> Topic: AOB
12:47:40 <mhausenblas> [adjourned]
12:47:40 <Zakim> -gdick
12:47:41 <Zakim> -Brand
12:47:41 <Zakim> -k
12:47:44 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
12:47:46 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
12:47:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
12:47:47 <bhyland> Thank you Michael for facilitating, very informative & helpful.
12:47:55 <Zakim> -bhyland
12:47:57 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM has ended
12:47:59 <Zakim> Attendees were Brand, mhausenblas, +1.240.515.aaaa, k, +1.540.898.aabb, bhyland, gdick
12:48:02 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:48:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
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12:48:42 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:48:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
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12:49:55 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:49:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
12:56:17 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye
12:56:17 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-actions.rdf :
12:56:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to find missing minutes from Jul/Aug [1]
12:56:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-irc#T12-16-40
12:56:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Hausenblas to find missing minutes from Jul/Aug [2]
12:56:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-irc#T12-16-52
12:56:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Hausenblas to update draft with links to projects [3]
12:56:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-irc#T12-21-22
12:56:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Hausenblas to talk with Richard to create dcat on the fly out from BeautifulSoup interaction [4]
12:56:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/17-egov-irc#T12-43-54