IRC log of a11y-bugs on 2010-08-31
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- 16:24:15 [MichaelC]
- 9326: might be a duplicate of 10066
- 16:24:24 [MichaelC]
- pinging Cynthia to verify, added note to bug
- 16:24:43 [MichaelC]
- (that is, 10066 has taken over the role of ARIA mapping omnibus bug, so 9326 not needed)
- 16:25:00 [MichaelC]
- 8673: assigned to cynthia, need info from the mapping sub-team
- 16:25:06 [MichaelC]
- no action from us at this time
- 16:30:15 [MichaelC]
- 8000: Assigning to Cynthia to address in ARIA mapping sub-team
- 16:30:25 [Joshue]
- Just for the record, list of bugs we are working on as of Aug 1 2010 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=NEEDSINFO&resolution=INVALID&resolution=WONTFIX
- 16:40:22 [MichaelC]
- 8644: this is an omnibus @alt bug on several elements
- 16:40:29 [MichaelC]
- seems primarily related to <embed>
- 16:40:42 [MichaelC]
- (fall back for the other elements being addressed separately)
- 16:41:01 [MichaelC]
- 10077 separately requests @alt for <embed>
- 16:41:54 [MichaelC]
- <object> has a fallback model via being "transparent", but <embed> lacks this
- 16:43:29 [MichaelC]
- there's confusion about when to use <embed> and when to use <object>
- 16:45:48 [MichaelC]
- and whether fallback content as supported by <object> is browser support fallback or accessibility alternative fallback
- 16:46:07 [MichaelC]
- these are two separate use cases, even though sometimes they get confused / blended
- 16:48:52 [MichaelC]
- as defined in http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/content-models.html#fallback-content, the fallback for object is for browser support and does not address accessibility
- 16:50:11 [MichaelC]
- so this leads us to conclude that both <embed> and <object> do not have accessibility fallback mechanisms at the moment
- 16:52:19 [MichaelC]
- this issue turns out to be represented by 8885
- 16:54:12 [Joshue]
- 8885 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8885
- 16:57:26 [MichaelC]
- topic: Homework
- 16:59:30 [MichaelC]
- Review the wontfix bugs so we can be more efficient in next triage meeting
- 16:59:32 [MichaelC]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=WONTFIX
- 17:02:33 [MichaelC]
- Josh to make proposals on 9216, 9437, 9871, 9872
- 17:03:32 [MichaelC]
- Michael to make proposals on 9061, 9098, 9212, 9215
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- Martin to look at 8674, 8681, 8754
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- Marco to look at 8827, 8872
- 17:05:34 [MichaelC]
- topic: Next meeting: Tuesday 7 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC
- 17:14:51 [MichaelC]
- meeting: Bug Triage sub-team - HTML A11Y TF
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- present: Michael_Cooper, Martin_Kliehm, Joshue_O'Connor, Marco_Ranon
- 17:15:22 [MichaelC]
- regrets: Laura_Carlson, Sally_Cain
- 17:15:34 [MichaelC]
- chair: Michael_Cooper
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