IRC log of ssn on 2010-07-28

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19:54:36 [laurent_lefort_cs]
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See http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-irc#T19-54-36
19:54:47 [laurent_lefort_cs]
zakim, this will be inc_ssn
19:54:47 [Zakim]
ok, laurent_lefort_cs; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
19:54:57 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Meeting: SSN XG
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Jul/0023.html
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Previous: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Jul/0020.html
19:58:19 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Regrets: Simon, Andriy
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INC_SSN()4:00PM has now started
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+[IPcaller]
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+ +1.206.662.aaaa
20:01:38 [Arthur]
zakim, IPcaller is me
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+Arthur; got it
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+[IPcaller]
20:04:45 [laurent_lefort_cs]
zakim, [IPCaller] is me
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+laurent_lefort_cs; got it
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+??P3
20:07:18 [michael]
zakim, ??P3 is me
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+michael; got it
20:09:21 [laurent_lefort_cs]
ScribeNick: Arthur
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+krp
20:10:50 [krp]
sounds fine
20:11:06 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Topic: Modelling discussion for Deployments Systems Devices
20:11:28 [michael]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Deployments,_Systems_and_Devices
20:15:15 [Arthur]
michael: summing up the "Deployments as Processes" on the webpage
20:18:38 [laurent_lefort_cs]
+q
20:18:43 [Arthur]
... main idea is to have DOLCE alignement
20:18:57 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Question from Andriy: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Jul/0019.html
20:21:32 [laurent_lefort_cs]
ack q
20:22:27 [laurent_lefort_cs]
ack laurent
20:23:55 [Arthur]
laurent_lefort_cs: how to connect "site" with a "deployment"?
20:28:16 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Michael: for Andriy question, we can link deployment to platform via a composition of the relation from deployment to sensor and from sensor to platform
20:29:30 [krp]
I think the later version captures everything from the earlier discussions, doesn't it?
20:29:48 [laurent_lefort_cs]
For Laurent's question (how to handle site information - put it in deployment or as a special case of platform) we'll get an example to clarify
20:32:07 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Vote on: okay for Michael to publish this version
20:32:11 [laurent_lefort_cs]
+1
20:32:14 [michael]
+1
20:32:15 [krp]
+1
20:32:30 [Arthur]
+q
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20:33:21 [laurent_lefort_cs]
ack arthur
20:34:03 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Laurent: stopping the vote to answer to Arthur's question
20:36:14 [laurent_lefort_cs]
... which is to have a direct relation between platform and deployment
20:36:18 [krp]
Deployed System is just a System subclass that has a Deployment
20:37:03 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Michael: DeployedSystem in the diagram is here to illustrate the model but is not part of the model
20:37:58 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Michael: onPlatform corresponds to the physical relationship
20:38:20 [laurent_lefort_cs]
... The other one (which is not a physical) could be here as well
20:41:58 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Laurent: examples where you deploy lots of things (e.g. buoys and platforms which as gliding robots)
20:50:28 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Michael: the model allows for different uses (one sensor to one platform relation via onPlatform) or relations between bigger deployments and their sites / platforms (could be even regions)
20:51:36 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Michael: the model allows cases like sensors attached to fish
20:52:12 [laurent_lefort_cs]
ack Arthur
20:52:55 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Vote (pass 2): okay for Michael to publish this version
20:52:58 [laurent_lefort_cs]
+1
20:53:01 [david]
+1
20:53:05 [Arthur]
+1
20:53:06 [krp]
+1
20:53:13 [michael]
+1
20:54:04 [david]
*where* will the ontology be published? Do we have resolution on where the ontology will live after the XG ends?
20:54:31 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Topic: Progress towards the XG deliverables (Laurent)
20:56:51 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Laurent: explaining that with PURL urls we will have more flexibility to continue but the first version should be published on the W#C Incubator web site
20:57:25 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Example of ontology documentation: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SensorOntology2009
20:58:32 [krp]
yes
21:02:30 [david]
what was used to generate the documentation?
21:02:56 [david]
Documentation generated using a generation tool derived from the vocab.org toolchain.
21:03:39 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Laurent: explaining the principles behind the documentation
21:08:46 [Arthur]
...this automatically generated documentation contains explanations and links to wiki pages with more information to help with ontology review
21:08:52 [michael]
+q
21:09:00 [laurent_lefort_cs]
ack michael
21:10:42 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Michael: do we want to have the paraphrase (need to answer before Laurent uploads all the other docs)
21:14:41 [Arthur]
laurent_lefort_cs: there many things we have discussed before which are not in the wiki.
21:16:02 [Arthur]
... we have to document how we came to specific solution/decision.
21:17:36 [Arthur]
... the current page represents the current state, but we also need to document the previous steps.
21:19:40 [michael]
bye
21:19:43 [Zakim]
-michael
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- +1.206.662.aaaa
21:19:47 [laurent_lefort_cs]
Bye
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-Arthur
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-krp
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-laurent_lefort_cs
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INC_SSN()4:00PM has ended
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Attendees were +1.206.662.aaaa, Arthur, laurent_lefort_cs, michael, krp
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Attendees: David, Arthur, Laurent, Michael, Kevin
21:22:53 [laurent_lefort_cs]
rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
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s/W#C/W3C/
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rrsagent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
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Chair: Laurent
21:26:48 [laurent_lefort_cs]
rrsagent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
21:29:06 [laurent_lefort_cs]
rrsagent, please generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
21:29:25 [laurent_lefort_cs]
zakim, bye
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rrsagent, bye
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