05:49:32 RRSAgent has joined #koreaoffice 05:49:32 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-irc 05:49:44 > RRSAgent, make logs world 05:49:52 rrsagent, generate minutes 05:49:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 05:50:04 RRSAgent, make logs world 05:50:08 Michael: Geolocation- showing positions, important for mobile devices, can get real time position of yourself while web browser running 05:50:11 s/> RRSAgent, make logs world// 05:51:23 ScribeNick: Hyejin 05:52:48 Michael: New form field types- validates type of input in the fields 05:53:00 Present+ Junghoon_Moon(MW20), Yeonsung_Choo(LGE), Dongyoung_Lee(LGE), Masao_Isshiki(W3C/Keio), Kazuyuki_Ashimura(W3C/Keio), Michael Smith(W3C/Keio) 05:53:00 Michael: client side real time validation 05:53:14 Michael: without Java script 05:53:24 rrsagent, generate minutes 05:53:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 05:54:18 Michael: Audio+Video- part of html dom, can use CSS and other html codes to control video on the web 05:54:46 Topic : II. Trends of new Web technology in W3C 05:54:54 rrsagent, generate minutes 05:54:54 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 05:55:08 Michael: Canvas- Drawing API supported by most of browsers, IE9, etc. 05:56:04 Present+ Hyejin_Park(ETRI), Kangchan_Lee(ETRI), Sun-hee_Youm(Samsung), Jinguk_Jeong(Samsung), Minkyo_In(ETRI), Seungyun_Lee(ETRI) 05:56:31 Present+ Wonsuk_Lee(ETRI), Manyoung_Cho(Opera) 05:56:33 Michael: WebGL - use Open GL capability of devices; applications would be mostly games, 3D games 05:57:08 rrsagent, generate minutes 05:57:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 05:58:33 Chair: Seungyun 05:58:50 Michael: CSS Selectors - let you easily format and design webpagew 05:58:53 Scribe: Hyejin 05:59:10 Meeting: W3C Korea Member's Workshop 05:59:51 rrsagent, generate minutes 05:59:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 06:01:17 ...: Columns- reformats columns depending on no. of columns you have; automatically adjusts webpage columns for devices with different resolutions 06:01:45 s/.../Michael/ 06:01:59 rrsagent, generate minutes 06:01:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 06:02:04 Michael: Opacity - allows two levels of opacity; useful for web designers 06:02:37 Michael: Rounded corners- control corners of borders 06:03:49 Michael: Transitions - example of programming of CSS; 06:04:43 Michael: allows dynamic behavior of objects 06:04:58 rrsagent, generate minutes 06:04:58 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 06:05:53 Michael: Transforms - dynamic behavior of objects; will be very popular for web designers; can control objets easily without using java script 06:06:20 Seungyun: Asking for questions 06:07:08 Kangchan: What is the difference between html4 & 5 from the perspective of device manufactueres? 06:08:10 rrsagent, generate minutes 06:08:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 06:08:13 Michael: instead of just showing documetns, you can create applications, integrate video; easier to develop applications by third party developers; using browsers to interface with applications; 06:08:40 Michael: You can use the kind of features you use from Flash, Silverlight with html5 06:08:55 Michael: no need to download plug ins 06:09:25 Topic: HTML5 Japanese IG 06:09:28 Michael: everyone can use open source instead of using certain vendor applications 06:09:43 Kazuyuki's presentation starts 06:10:00 Kazuyuki: Introducting to W3C Keio office 06:11:37 Kazuyuki: Several difficult issues on html5 being discussed- 06:12:24 Kazuyuki: Japanese device vendors mention there should be some kind of extension for new devices required 06:13:01 Kazuyuki: We have open discussions by both W3C members and non-members 06:13:27 Kazuyuki: HTML5, SVG, 06:14:19 Kazuyuki: discussed within Local IG which is useful to promote W3C's presence in local meetings; 06:15:35 Kazuyuki: We have strong collaboration with Korea and Chian 06:16:02 Kazuyuki: Web on TV Workshop to be held in 2-3 September 2010 in Tokyo Japan 06:16:55 Kazuyuki: purpose of the workshop- identify use cases and requirements for smarter integration of Web tech, broadcasting tech, etc. 06:18:09 rrsagent, generate minutes 06:18:09 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 06:18:57 Kazuyuki: Recently proposed WG- Notification WG, Model-based UI WG; XGs-Audio XG, HTML speech XG 06:19:39 Kazuyuki: HTML speech incubator group charter's initiating members - Voxeo, MS, openstream, google, AT&T 06:20:20 Kazuyuki: Asking for participant's expectations on W3C activities 06:20:56 Seungyun: Asking for questions 06:21:48 LGE: More information on Notification WG, Model-based UI WG? 06:24:16 Kazuyuki: purpose of model based UI - to create simple xml language; focuses on approaches to generate both html and xml at once 06:26:15 Michael: Notification WG- we only have 'draft' WG charter atm; W3C Advisory committee will review if there are any conflicts in work, and so on 06:27:25 Michael: Web Notification WG creation decision will be made in a few weeks. This group will develop notification mechanisms to send notifications to platform layer. 06:28:42 Wonsuk: Questions on HTML5 Japanese Interest Group: Operation, meeting intervals, other interest groups in Japan? 06:30:06 Kazuyuki: F2F meeting is not required and it should be defined by W3G charter 06:30:34 Kazuyuki: we are planning to set up a meeting asap 06:31:10 Kazuyuki: we would like to collaborate with Korea 06:31:41 Seungyun: How Japanese HTML5 IG deliver your opinion to W3C HTML5 IG? 06:32:23 Kazuyuki: we are following W3C's charter and procedures 06:34:19 Michael: Since IGs are working in their own language, I think that it is important to provide reports on the work being done within each IG 06:37:23 Michael: Regarding MS not standardizing DB language, having no single SQL syntax becomes the problem.; Oracle, MySQL all use different language; If there is a standard for DB langauges, all different companies would need to change their own languages; Companies don't like standardizing client side sql.; Instead, we have come up with Indexed DB and companies are implementing it. 06:37:29 Mailing list for HTML5 JP IG -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-ig-jp/ 06:38:09 Topic: LG Electronics Joins W3C 06:38:32 LGE's presentation on "LG Electronics Joins W3C " starts 06:39:13 rrsagent, generate minutes 06:39:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 06:39:58 Dong-Young: AC rep of LGE 06:41:34 Dong-Young: Tentative membership started on July 13; We wanted to join W3C in July to participate in privacy workshop (hosted by Vodafone), DAP WG meeting 06:43:07 Dong-Young: Reasons for joining W3C - as web is evolving into an application platform for mobile phones and other devices, and being a mobile device manufacturer, it is important for us to follow on web standards 06:44:17 Dong-Young: Web is expanding to many devices, and web will be the technology for convergence; 06:45:27 Dong-Young: web has strong user experience on PC/web, phones 06:45:49 kaz has joined #koreaoffice 06:46:07 Dong-Young: We are interested in primarily on web application platform WGs (DAP, Web Applications, Geolocation) 06:46:35 Dong-Young: , HTML5 WG, TV/Media 06:47:20 Dong-Young: To summarize our focus areas are web tech on mobile phones, TV; and web technology for convergence 06:47:42 Seungyun: We are excited to have LGE as a new member 06:48:14 Michael: We are excited to follow on technology development in Korea and excited to have LGE as a new member 06:49:23 Michael: Question - Does LGE have a software group working on browser development etc.? 06:50:13 Dong-Young: Yes we have a group developing software for mobile phones 06:51:29 Dong-Young: I'm not at marketing or product development division but I have some opinions that we can develop walled garden services on TVs 06:52:25 Michael: Users want to use services what they are already using with no extra charge on different devices. 06:53:10 Dong-Young: Apple and Google TV will break the walled garden 06:53:23 Topic: AR on the Web 06:54:16 Jonghong: Augmented Reality on the Web 06:54:49 Jonghong: Recently, interests in AR on the web's has been increasing 06:55:24 Jonghong: AR is a term for a live direct or indirect view of a physical real-world environment whose elements are merged with computer generated virtula imagery 06:55:36 Jonghong: i.e. mixed reality 06:56:18 Jonghong: AR applications - sekai camera, yelp, my car finder, etc. 06:57:34 Jonghong: Showing AR demos; 06:58:31 rrsagent, generate minutes 06:58:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 06:58:48 Jonghong: AR platform consist of Visualization, Information Architecture, Context Awareness 06:59:35 Present+ Jonghong_Jeon(ETRI) 07:00:11 Jonghong: History of AR - started from 1970 and developed further with GPS and smartphones technologies 07:00:43 Jonghong: Two trends of AR are 1) Visualization Approach; 2) Informative Approach 07:02:31 Jonghong: Viewing two trends of AR respect to focus, UI, requirements, target devices, system type, ... 07:03:13 Jonghong: AR Software - the most important software for AR is the AR browser 07:04:10 Jonghong: geodata mapping, 2d 3d rendering, linking of websites to phones, etc. are important technologies 07:04:53 Jonghong: Augmented Information for whom, for what, when, where, why, how should be identified 07:05:23 Jonghong: AR contents service framework- AR contents provider provides content to users, 07:05:48 users need to use contents from different providers but due to interoperability issues it is not the case currently 07:06:08 Jonghong: standardization is required to resolve these issues 07:06:49 Jonghong: why do we need AR browsers? - W3C considers to develop AR capabilities in the current browsers 07:08:53 Jonghong: AR Interoperability issues being presented 07:09:16 Jonghong: AR contents markup&format, 3D interactive AR/MR contents, AR data format are current standardization issues 07:10:38 Jonghong: AR on the web - assumes web user agent using html5 07:10:57 Jonghong: through HTTP +XHR 07:12:07 Jonghong: presenting lists of current standards, working specs, and possible future items for web user agent 07:13:37 Jonghong: ETRI proposed to establish a working group (IG or WG); working items to be included are HTML5, live video control, web application, Registration & 3D object integration, interaction &event processing 07:13:46 wonsuk has left #koreaoffice 07:14:14 Jonghong: Ar on the web Workshop was hold on 15-16 June 2010, Barcelona 07:15:32 s/Ar/AR/g 07:15:33 Jonghong: Layar's presentation on AR at the workshop - Layar owns an AR platform 07:16:35 s/was hold/was held/ 07:16:40 Jonghong: there were standardization issues raised for developing such platform such as requesting format, list of POIs, live and dynamic information, representation of stories and games, etc. 07:16:56 s/Layar/Layer/ 07:17:11 Jonghong: POI working group was established after discussions 07:17:52 Jonghong: AR standardization in other bodies - ISO/IEC JTC 1 SWG-planning, ISO/IEC JTC1 SC24, OMA CD WG - Mobile AR 07:18:56 Jonghong: mobile AR work undergoing in LGE overlaps with work items in W3C and we need to clarify work items to be done in Korea 07:20:13 Michael: Can you tell me about Orientation API spec? 07:22:30 -> http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source-orientation.html orientation API 07:30:41 Topic: Taking Action as an W3C AC Rep. 07:37:23 rrsagent, generate minutes 07:37:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 07:41:32 Seungyun: Introduction to W3C Korea Office 07:41:36 gogogo has joined #koreaoffice 07:41:40 Seungyun: will be presented 07:42:53 gogogo has left #koreaoffice 07:43:08 Kangchan: Roles of AC representative - focal point of each member, AC rep is a communication channel notifies all the information from W3C to each membership company 07:43:58 Kangchan: There are different authority to access W3C websites 07:44:39 Kangchan: based on the type of user 07:45:28 Kangchan: and different mailing lists which are accessible by AC Reps 07:46:56 Kangchan: AC Reps analyze and decide which information to share and dispatch to their company thus it is very important that AC reps follow up on W3C acitivities 07:47:34 Kangchan: AC Reps can vote on major decisions through questionnaires 07:48:55 JonathanJ has joined #koreaoffice 07:49:21 Kangchan: AC Rep-to-Team Communication - Each member's W3C activities depend on how active AC Reps will respond to W3C information 07:49:50 Kangchan: AC Rep can participate in elections 07:50:00 rrsagent, draft minutes 07:50:00 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html JonathanJ 07:51:39 Kangchan: W3C Member Submission is an official proposal document to W3C which W3C will consider the document to decide on actions to be taken 07:52:01 Kangchan: Members can submit joint Member Submission 07:53:43 Kangchan: W3C Fellow is a staff of W3C who represents and works for W3C; Funding is provided by mother affiliation 07:55:30 Kangchan: Member Internal Communication - AC Reps adjusts internal issues such as managing number of participants to each WG, . 07:56:56 Kangchan: Member to Public - AC reps can provide, modify company information on the W3C website. 07:57:30 Kangchan: Member Submission procedures 07:58:36 Kangchan: Chairman's Handbook would provide useful information on the procedures in W3C 07:59:09 Kangchan: Team-to-Member communication is done mainly by email and website 07:59:42 Kangchan: There are weekly newsletters published 08:00:37 Kangchan: AC Reps should keep up to date of their company information, take care of membership fee, member database 08:01:06 Kangchan: Search function is available within mailing lists 08:03:03 Kangchan: W3C Web on TV Workshop; 2-3 Sep 2010, Keio University, Tokyo, Japan 08:03:31 Kangchan: Planning to provide Korean, Chinese interpretation at the workshop 08:03:55 Kangchan: considering the participants' country of origin 08:04:29 Kangchan: Next AC meeting will be held on 1-5 Nov 2010, Lyon, France 08:05:09 Kangchan: International Web Accessibility Semnars will be held on 6 Oct, NIA, Korea 08:05:32 Kangchan: ISWC2010 meeting will be held on 8-11 Nov in Shanghai 08:07:38 Seungyun: W3C Korea Office Operation 08:08:02 Topic: Future Plan for W3C Korea Office 08:09:41 Seungyun: Web technology is increasingly becoming more significant in this technology era 08:10:06 Seungyun: Our goals are to encourage and support of W3C activities to Korean members 08:11:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 08:11:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 08:13:15 Seungyun: Regarding W3C issues, until now Mobile web and accessibility were major interests in Korea, but there are interests in other issues being raised nowadays. Korea currently has 6 members. 08:13:55 Seungyun: Korean Government's need to participate in web technology is increasing 08:14:29 Seungyun: Korean Government including KCC, MKE, MCST, MOPAS 08:14:43 Present+ Dolly_Lee(dcvb) 08:15:18 Seungyun: Mobile Web Forum became a W3C member to help SMEs to participate in W3C standardization activities 08:15:57 Seungyun: There are questions about benefits of being a member of W3C as W3C has royalty free patent policy 08:17:02 Seungyun: MWI work is almost finished now so there are also questions about issues to focus on within W3C 08:21:19 Seungyun: Future plan - talks given by office staffs, support for member activity, 08:21:32 Seungyun: we are trying to host W3C meetings in Korea 08:22:29 Seungyun: so that Korean industry can be boosted up and take lead in some of the roles 08:23:51 Seungyun: We are planning to initiate W3C HTML IG in Korea 08:24:18 Seungyun: and also get consultation from Japanese office 08:25:26 Seungyun: Establishing of authorized translation process, supporting of e-government activity, renewal of W3C homepage are under consideration atm 08:25:44 Seungyun: I would like to introduce two participants at this workshop 08:26:15 Present+ Yung-ho_park(dcvb) 08:26:38 s/_park/_Park/g 08:28:56 Manyoung: Business and Technology Specialist 08:29:24 Manyoung: We are aware of the need of having a close communication with business players 08:30:28 Manyoung: Decision makers should be aware of the importance of web technology that we are planning to give presentations on such issues from conferences and events 08:31:16 Manyoung: There is no decent procedures to provide information to the media and public that we are planning to develop appropriate channels 08:33:50 Manyoung: I have experienced many manufacturers suffering with web standards and technologies and it is still going on that I thought that it is important for Korea to have a systematic approach within W3c to inform the industry and for the industry to stay updated and to lead the global industry 08:35:00 Manyoung: This is why I have volunteered to be a Business and Technology Specialist at W3C Korea office, and I hope to promote web technologies widely in Korea 08:35:03 Topic: Discussion on WWW2014 Host in Korea 08:36:29 Yung-ho_park: 2014 WWW Conference overview- no. of participants expected- 1000 08:37:53 Yung-ho_park: Geographic balance of hosting country is considered in deciding host countries and we expect to host 2014 International WWW Conference in Daegu, Korea 08:59:34 rrsagent, draft minutes 08:59:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 09:00:23 Seungyun: FYI, we need to consider if Korea office will support hosting the conference, and also need to decide the level of involvement in hosting the conference. 09:00:50 Seungyun: We will further consider on this issue and may ask our members on any assistance or help needed. 09:02:39 rrsagent, draft minutes 09:02:39 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-koreaoffice-minutes.html Kangchan 09:04:53 Hyejin has left #koreaoffice