IRC log of html-wg on 2010-07-15
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/07/15-html-wg-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be HTML
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- HTML matches both WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM and HTML_WG()12:00PM
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- Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
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- Date: 15 July 2010
- 15:57:29 [rubys]
- zakim, this will be HTML_WG
- 15:57:29 [Zakim]
- ok, rubys, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
- 15:57:32 [paulc]
- zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
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- +paulc; got it
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- -[Microsoft]
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- +[Microsoft]
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- +Plh
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- zakim, [microsoft] has paulc
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- paulc was already listed in [Microsoft], paulc
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- +Sam
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- +Radhika_Roy
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- +[Microsoft.a]
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- zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba, franko
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- +adrianba, franko; got it
- 16:00:15 [paulc]
- scribe: paulc
- 16:02:35 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, call Mike
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- ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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- +Michael_Cooper
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- +Mike
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- zakim, call janina
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- ok, janina; the call is being made
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- +Janina
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- scribeNick: paulc
- 16:03:14 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, Mike is me
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- +MikeSmith; got it
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- Zakim, mute me
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- MikeSmith should now be muted
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- -> http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent#formatMinutes RRSAgent and scribe[Nick]
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- Title: RRSAgent IRC Bot Description (at www.w3.org)
- 16:04:21 [paulc]
- Topic: ACTION items
- 16:04:30 [paulc]
- ACTION-29?
- 16:04:30 [trackbot]
- ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2010-07-15 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
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- Title: ACTION-29 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- 16:04:43 [Zakim]
- +Laura_Carlson
- 16:04:56 [paulc]
- plh: The PSIG is still waiting on feedback on the license. Not sure when this will time out.
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- +??P7
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- plh: Getting feedback is a blocker. No timeline for PSIG action.
- 16:05:30 [paulc]
- ACTION-29 due in 1 month
- 16:05:30 [trackbot]
- ACTION-29 Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring due date now in 1 month
- 16:05:46 [janina]
- zakim, drop janina
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- Janina is being disconnected
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- -Janina
- 16:05:54 [paulc]
- plh: If anything happends before this plh will report it right away.
- 16:05:59 [janina]
- zakim, call janina
- 16:05:59 [Zakim]
- ok, janina; the call is being made
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- ACITON-183?
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- +Janina
- 16:06:07 [rubys]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10173
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- ACTION-183?
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- ACTION-183 -- Kris Krueger to and Testint TF to open bug on default mode when embedding SVG in HTML -- due 2010-07-15 -- CLOSED
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/183
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- 1110173: krisk@microsoft.com, P2, NEW, 13Foreign Content
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- Title: ACTION-183 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- 16:06:19 [paulc]
- This was completed by filing bug 10173.
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- 11http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10173 krisk@microsoft.com, P2, NEW, 13Foreign Content
- 16:06:41 [paulc]
- I just muted myself to cut the noise.
- 16:06:53 [rubys]
- close action-183
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- ACTION-183 And Testint TF to open bug on default mode when embedding SVG in HTML closed
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- + +1.415.595.aaaa
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- Topic: New issues this week
- 16:07:07 [mjs]
- Zakim, +1.415.595.aaaa is me
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- +mjs; got it
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- None.
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- Topic: Working Group decisions
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- + +1.206.850.aabb
- 16:07:47 [paulc]
- Issues 30, 88, 95, 96 and 97 surveys have closed and are pending.
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- plh: What is the timeline for getting these done?
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- issue-30?
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- ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
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- Title: ISSUE-30 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- 16:08:39 [paulc]
- issue-88?
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- ISSUE-88 -- Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88
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- Title: ISSUE-88 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- 16:08:46 [paulc]
- Issue-95?
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- ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
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- +Julian_Reschke
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- Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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- issue-96?
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- ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
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- Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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- +Shepazu
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- issue-97?
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- ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
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- Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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- pbc: We expect at least two of 95, 96 and 97 to be ready for next week.
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- Topic: Issues needing revised proposals
- 16:09:29 [Julian_]
- Zakim, who's on the phone?
- 16:09:29 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see [Microsoft], Plh, Sam, Radhika_Roy, [Microsoft.a], Michael_Cooper, MikeSmith (muted), Janina, Laura_Carlson, ??P7, mjs, +1.206.850.aabb, Julian_Reschke, Shepazu
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- [Microsoft] has paulc
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- [Microsoft.a] has adrianba, franko
- 16:09:51 [paulc]
- Issue-31 and Issue-80: awaitng revised proposal.
- 16:10:07 [paulc]
- Issue-56 has a revised proposal and it is being discussed.
- 16:10:33 [paulc]
- Issue-85 may be obsolete in lieu of bug 10066.
- 16:10:33 [pimpbot]
- 11http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10066 faulkner.steve@gmail.com, P2, NEW, 13replace section 3.2.6 with the alternative spec text provided
- 16:10:51 [paulc]
- Still awaiting a revised proposal on Issue-100.
- 16:10:59 [paulc]
- The revised proposals are all due today.
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- pbc: What are we going to do if the revisions are not made available?
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- rubys: We will probably be forced to process the proposals we do have.
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- Topic: Issues ready for survey processing
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- Issue-4?
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- ISSUE-4 -- HTML Versioning and DOCTYPEs -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/4
- 16:12:19 [pimpbot]
- Title: ISSUE-4 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- 16:12:25 [paulc]
- Issue-84?
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- ISSUE-84 -- Should spec discourage use of "legacy" doctypes? -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/84
- 16:12:27 [pimpbot]
- Title: ISSUE-84 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- 16:12:30 [paulc]
- Issue-101?
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- ISSUE-101 -- Spec reference for US-ASCII -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/101
- 16:12:31 [pimpbot]
- Title: ISSUE-101 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- 16:12:33 [paulc]
- Issue-103?
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- ISSUE-103 -- XML escaping in iframe/@srcdoc -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/103
- 16:12:35 [pimpbot]
- Title: ISSUE-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- 16:13:10 [paulc]
- The issue of authoring conformance is being discussed on the public-html list. More input would be good.
- 16:14:25 [pimpbot]
- bugmail: "[Bug 10083] Remove references to Microdata from within the document" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0312.html>
- 16:14:48 [paulc]
- pbc: Issue-100 is awaiting a revised proposal and should be processed before Issue-103 since the items are related. See last week's discussion.
- 16:14:55 [Julian_]
- Zakim, who's making noise?
- 16:15:04 [paulc]
- on mute again.
- 16:15:06 [Zakim]
- Julian_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [Microsoft] (25%), Laura_Carlson (4%), Sam (19%)
- 16:15:18 [paulc]
- Topic: Other business
- 16:15:33 [paulc]
- plh: wanted to report on Testing TF
- 16:15:47 [paulc]
- plh: very encouraging progress - 30 more tests approved
- 16:15:49 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, agenda?
- 16:15:49 [Zakim]
- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
- 16:15:50 [Zakim]
- 1. status check on IANA link-relations registry - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0033.html [from MikeSmith]
- 16:15:51 [pimpbot]
- Title: Re: ACTION-182 and Issue-27 from Julian Reschke on 2010-07-14 (public-html@w3.org from July 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
- 16:16:04 [paulc]
- plh: TF has more than 800+ canvas tests in the pipeline.
- 16:16:15 [paulc]
- plh: KrisK is working on a test harness.
- 16:16:35 [paulc]
- plh: Both MSFT and Opera have offered to submit test results BEFORE CR.
- 16:16:50 [paulc]
- plh: W3C plans to aggregate and publish these "early" results.
- 16:17:06 [paulc]
- plh: within one month or so there will be publishable test results.
- 16:17:48 [paulc]
- plh: There is one canvas test that was failing on many implementations and the TF agreed that several implementation will have to change since the test matched the spec.
- 16:18:09 [paulc]
- pbc: Is that a challenge for other to get involved?
- 16:18:23 [paulc]
- plh: it would be good for other implementors to send in results?
- 16:18:55 [paulc]
- plh: Plan is to submit results for the "approved" tests only and to increase the number of "approved" tests.
- 16:19:06 [paulc]
- pbc on mute again.
- 16:19:17 [paulc]
- Topic: Scribe for next meeting.
- 16:19:40 [paulc]
- Paul volunteers to scribe for Maciej who will be in the Chair.
- 16:19:49 [paulc]
- I defer to Adrian.
- 16:19:59 [paulc]
- Adrian will scribe next week.
- 16:20:08 [paulc]
- Topic: Adjournment
- 16:20:17 [paulc]
- Meeting adjourned at 12:30pm ET.
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- -Julian_Reschke
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- - +1.206.850.aabb
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- -Plh
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- -Michael_Cooper
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- -Sam
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- -[Microsoft.a]
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- bye
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- -mjs
- 16:20:29 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, drop me
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- MikeSmith is being disconnected
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- -MikeSmith
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- -Janina
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- -Shepazu
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- -Radhika_Roy
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- rssagent, generate minutes
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- -Laura_Carlson
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- rssagent, create the minutes
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- -??P7
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- rssagent, create minutes
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- rrsagent, create minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/15-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
- 16:23:20 [paulc]
- and paul cannot spell tenative as well
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- -[Microsoft]
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- HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were paulc, [Microsoft], Plh, Sam, Radhika_Roy, adrianba, franko, Michael_Cooper, Janina, MikeSmith, Laura_Carlson, mjs, +1.206.850.aabb, Julian_Reschke, Shepazu
- 16:44:34 [pimpbot]
- bugmail: [Bug 10177] New: Typo in 'An end tag whose tag name is "p"': "sbutton cope" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0313.html>
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- changes: mike: renamed "common attributes" to "global attributes" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0045.html>
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- bugmail: [Bug 9673] Remove any reference to a specific Time Stamp format for video captioning from the specification at this time <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0314.html>
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- bugmail: [Bug 10178] New: In the DOM tree visualisation the doctype node is presented weird: The string "html" is marked up like a reference to the definition of the HTML element; like it is done with all following nodes. That just leads to a doubled link to the HTML element defin <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0315.html>
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- /leave
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- planet: Firefox 4 Beta Coverage From Around the World <11http://blog.mozilla.com/news/2010/07/15/firefox-4-beta-coverage-from-around-the-world/>
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- bugmail: [Bug 9767] Consider ignoring document.write() when IE ignores it if comes from the network task source <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0316.html>
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