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13:53:27 <fsasaki> meeting: Library Linked Data XG
13:53:37 <fsasaki> chair: Antoine
13:53:47 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jul/0020.html
13:54:16 <fsasaki> regrets: Tom, Tod, Jodi, Wolfgang, Herbert, William, Martin, Guenther
13:54:22 <antoine> invite Zakim #lld
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13:56:06 <antoine> I can't see LLD on the calendar http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar.html#s_4061
13:56:37 <stu> i am not being admitted to the call with the code 55394
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13:59:54 <antoine>  http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/TeleconferenceHowTo.htm#how requires 2 business days
14:00:15 <antoine> @ everyone: we're stuck because our call is not registered in the W3C calendar for some reason
14:00:22 <antoine> ... we do not have zakim for the moment
14:00:37 <antoine> ... as you probably experienced from not being able to connect
14:01:15 <fumi> fumi has joined #lld
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14:01:36 <digikim> digikim has joined #lld
14:01:53 <rsinger> rsinger has joined #lld
14:02:07 <antoine> thanks!
14:02:09 <edsu> hmm, not able to call in to boston number: "staff code is not valid"?
14:02:13 <rsinger> same here
14:02:26 <stu> talking to the operator
14:02:28 <antoine>  @ everyone: we're stuck because our call is not registered in the W3C calendar for some reason
14:02:35 <antoine>  ... we do not have zakim for the moment
14:02:41 <stu> she did not find it registered..
14:02:41 <antoine> ... as you probably experienced from not being able to connect
14:02:46 <stu> believed it was a one time only
14:02:47 <fumi> heh
14:02:48 <digikim> hmm... the key is not vorking
14:02:58 <digikim> ah you noticed it already :(
14:03:05 <stu> and is trying to set it up ad hoc
14:03:09 <edsu> stu: ok, so i guess i don't need to hold for the operator :-)
14:03:10 <stu> give her a couple minutes
14:03:29 <oreste> YES, please advice when the conf code will be registered
14:03:30 <marcia> marcia has joined #lld
14:03:43 <stu> Isaac, you may want to contact her and tell her you are the one to notify when its ready?
14:03:58 <Monica> Monica has joined #lld
14:04:21 <fsasaki> present: Monica, marcia, rsinger, digikim, kcoyle, fumi, ray, dlukose, oreste, GordonD, michaelp, RRSAgent, stu, AlexanderH, Zakim, fsasaki, antoine, jeff_, Nico, emma, kai, edsu, ww
14:04:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html fsasaki
14:04:36 <marcia> I have trouble to call in.  
14:05:03 <antoine> ok we have stu trying to launch it via phone and felix having sent mail
14:05:14 <antoine> let's wait five minutes
14:05:31 <antoine> ... if we don't receive news then we cancel it
14:06:40 <antoine> sorry everyone for this mess :-(
14:07:03 <digikim> Q: How many Linked Data people are needed to fix a broken conference call? -- A: None. The Linked Data just works. :)
14:07:15 <edsu> antoine: no worries
14:07:18 <stu> :-)
14:07:32 <dlukose> I was told by the operator to ring back in 3 minutes
14:08:01 <marcia> the conference call is valid now.  However when I called I was the only one. 
14:08:04 <rsinger> if we cancel it will give me a chance to rebut edsu's blog posting ;)
14:08:05 <rsinger> oh well
14:08:07 <stu> its up!
14:08:11 <stu> I
14:08:16 <Zakim> +[LC]
14:08:18 <stu> I'm in
14:08:18 <Zakim> -[LC]
14:08:18 <Zakim> +[LC]
14:08:20 <amy> amy has joined #lld
14:08:25 <edsu> Zakim, LC is edsu
14:08:25 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
14:08:32 <amy> this is amy from W3C. the bridge should be working
14:08:42 <amy> there was a problem with the scheduling, we'll try to sort it out later
14:08:50 <antoine> thank amy!
14:08:52 <amy> Felix! hi! great 
14:08:55 <stu> thank you!
14:08:55 <amy> :)
14:08:56 <Zakim> + +1.423.463.aaaa
14:08:57 <Zakim> + +1.330.289.aabb
14:08:58 <amy> sure thing
14:09:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
14:09:13 <Zakim> + +1.614.764.aacc
14:09:17 <Zakim> +Oreste
14:09:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aa]
14:09:39 <rsinger> Zakim, I am +1.423.463.aaaa
14:09:39 <Zakim> +rsinger; got it
14:09:48 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aaa]
14:09:49 <Zakim> +??P30
14:09:53 <amy> amy has joined #lld
14:09:53 <jar> jar has joined #lld
14:09:57 <rsinger> Zakim, mute me
14:09:57 <Zakim> rsinger should now be muted
14:10:05 <Zakim> +??P26
14:10:05 <digikim> I just called in, but how did I say its me? 
14:10:08 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
14:10:23 <Zakim> + +81.35.937.aadd
14:10:29 <kai> Zakim, who is on the phone?
14:10:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], edsu, rsinger (muted), +1.330.289.aabb, [IPcaller.a], michaelp, Oreste, [IPcaller.aa], [IPcaller.aaa] (muted), Felix (muted), ??P26, +81.35.937.aadd
14:10:32 <fumi> zakim, aadd is me
14:10:32 <Zakim> - +1.330.289.aabb
14:10:32 <Zakim> +fumi; got it
14:10:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aaaa]
14:10:56 <kcoyle> kcoyle has joined #lld
14:10:58 <kai> zakim, [IPcaller.aaa] is me.
14:10:58 <Zakim> +kai; got it
14:11:11 <kai> Zakim, who is on the phone?
14:11:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], edsu, rsinger (muted), [IPcaller.a], michaelp, Oreste, [IPcaller.aa], kai, Felix (muted), ??P26, fumi (muted), [IPcaller.aaaa]
14:11:15 <Zakim> + +1.330.289.aaee
14:11:16 <Zakim> +[LC]
14:11:28 <Zakim> +michaelp.a
14:11:30 <kcoyle> is boston working now?
14:11:38 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
14:11:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], edsu, rsinger (muted), [IPcaller.a], michaelp, Oreste, [IPcaller.aa], kai, Felix (muted), ??P26, fumi (muted), [IPcaller.aaaa], +1.330.289.aaee,
14:11:41 <Zakim> ... [LC], michaelp.a
14:11:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see kcoyle, jar, amy, Monica, marcia, rsinger, digikim, fumi, ray, dlukose, oreste, GordonD, michaelp, RRSAgent, stu, AlexanderH, Zakim, fsasaki, antoine, jeff_, Nico,
14:11:45 <Zakim> ... emma, kai, edsu, ww
14:11:45 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aaa]
14:11:58 <oreste> oreste has changed the topic to: LLD XG telecon 2010-07-08 (oreste)
14:12:26 <Zakim> +Jonathan_Rees
14:12:45 <Zakim> +??P37
14:12:54 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
14:12:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], edsu, rsinger (muted), [IPcaller.a], michaelp, Oreste, [IPcaller.aa], kai, Felix (muted), ??P26, fumi (muted), [IPcaller.aaaa], +1.330.289.aaee,
14:12:59 <Zakim> ... [LC], michaelp.a, emma (muted), Jonathan_Rees, ??P37
14:13:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see kcoyle, jar, amy, Monica, marcia, rsinger, digikim, fumi, ray, dlukose, oreste, GordonD, michaelp, RRSAgent, stu, AlexanderH, Zakim, fsasaki, antoine, jeff_, Nico,
14:13:02 <Zakim> ... emma, kai, edsu, ww
14:13:03 <Zakim> +??P38
14:13:07 <GordonD> zakim, ??P37 is me
14:13:07 <Zakim> +GordonD; got it
14:13:08 <amy> amy has left #lld
14:13:21 <antoine> zakim, ??P26 is me
14:13:21 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
14:14:53 <kcoyle> zakim, ???p26 is kcoyle
14:14:56 <Zakim> sorry, kcoyle, I do not recognize a party named '???p26'
14:15:03 <fsasaki> topic: Minutes of previous telecon
14:15:11 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0131.html
14:15:29 <fsasaki> Antoine: any objection to the minutes of last call?
14:15:37 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: approved minutes from last call
14:15:46 <fsasaki> topic: F2F meeting @Pittsburgh 23 and 24 October
14:15:53 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F
14:16:02 <GordonD> zakim, who is here?
14:16:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], edsu, rsinger (muted), [IPcaller.a], michaelp, Oreste, [IPcaller.aa], kai, Felix (muted), antoine, fumi (muted), [IPcaller.aaaa], +1.330.289.aaee,
14:16:05 <Zakim> ... [LC], jeff_? (muted), emma (muted), Jonathan_Rees, GordonD, ??P38
14:16:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see kcoyle, jar, Monica, marcia, rsinger, digikim, fumi, ray, dlukose, oreste, GordonD, michaelp, RRSAgent, stu, AlexanderH, Zakim, fsasaki, antoine, jeff_, Nico, emma,
14:16:09 <Zakim> ... kai, edsu, ww
14:16:11 <fsasaki> Antoine: have this item to keep you informed, but nothing to report here
14:16:17 <fsasaki> topic: Summer teleconferences schedule
14:16:25 <fsasaki> Antoine: see agenda, as a reminder
14:16:36 <GordonD> zakim, ??P38 is probably me
14:16:36 <Zakim> +GordonD?; got it
14:16:50 <fsasaki> topic: community wiki
14:16:56 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/LLD
14:17:22 <fsasaki> antoine: idea of wiki is different from our group wiki
14:17:34 <fsasaki> .. a free space for any public contriubtion to the library linked data topic
14:17:43 <fsasaki> .. may also be completely outside the scope of the group
14:18:03 <fsasaki> .. meant as a means to invite people from outside the group to contribute
14:18:07 <fsasaki> .. any questions?
14:18:27 <fsasaki> .. there are two wikis: the group wiki, and the group wiki
14:18:43 <fsasaki> XYZ: could we have a link between the two wikis, explaining their relation?
14:18:56 <jar>  +1 cross-links
14:18:57 <fsasaki> antoine: yes
14:18:59 <kai> +1
14:19:13 <Zakim> -GordonD
14:19:16 <fsasaki> antoine: to check cross linking between the two wikis
14:19:23 <stu> (stu was asking for links between the two wikis with a brief explanation)
14:19:23 <fsasaki> action: antoine to check cross linking between the two wikis
14:19:48 <fsasaki> topic: Use cases and case studies
14:20:01 <antoine>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2010Jun/0032.html 
14:20:24 <fsasaki> antoine: based on the template from the provenancy XG
14:20:28 <Zakim> + +44.194.346.aaff
14:20:33 <Zakim> +??P40
14:20:48 <Monica> \me .aaff is me
14:20:55 <fsasaki> .. stu and others had an action to produce that template
14:21:05 <fsasaki> .. has been progress on that action
14:21:11 <antoine>  ACTION: Stu takes the lead on understanding UC approach better (with help of Emmanuelle Jodi Bernard and Jeff) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/24-lld-minutes.html#action05] 
14:21:28 <Monica> \me Zakim mute me
14:21:33 <fsasaki> s/to produce that template/to work on the template/
14:21:34 <antoine> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dimensions
14:22:32 <fsasaki> stu: the assignment was not because of my conclusion of how to do use cases
14:22:43 <fsasaki> .. templates from the provenance gropu were quite useful
14:22:56 <fsasaki> .. also had other input on how to make the template
14:23:13 <fsasaki> .. this I think is a pretty good start of how to do that
14:24:53 <fsasaki> discussion of use case template
14:25:14 <fsasaki> antoine: about the dimensions (categories) in here: I see some very general dimensions here
14:25:27 <fsasaki> .. might be dangerous if we go too much into details
14:25:40 <fsasaki> .. we should not take too much time to work on the template
14:26:41 <fsasaki> stu: I will send a link to the group with my proposal, people can look at it and see what they think about it
14:26:43 <fsasaki> antoine: sure
14:26:51 <fsasaki> .. every material is welcome to discuss
14:27:12 <fsasaki> .. but we need to move that forward, we need to finalize something
14:27:38 <fsasaki> .. looking at your proposal, there was an overlap with the work from kai
14:29:00 <fsasaki> kai: looked at the dimensions, I now probably would start with them
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14:29:22 <emma> (I just commented that it is quite complementary, we can try to use the dimensions with Kai's template as is)
14:29:32 <kcoyle> +1 do a few use cases to test out UC and dimensions
14:29:38 <stu> kai +1 ...
14:29:46 <antoine> +1
14:29:50 <fsasaki> +1
14:29:53 <GordonD> +1
14:29:58 <stu> important thing is for people to create use cases
14:30:00 <fsasaki> edsu: question about the dimensions
14:30:12 <fsasaki> .. I thought the dimensions were used to analyse the use cases which came in
14:30:29 <fsasaki> .. but it looks like it is something wider .. could someone clarify?
14:31:01 <fsasaki> antoine: I think that the dimensions are a guide for the use case provider to structure the UC
14:31:06 <kai> q+
14:31:21 <fsasaki> ack k
14:31:34 <fsasaki> kai: maybe we should find some not so specific dimensions and just refine them
14:32:05 <stu>  I think the dimensions are to stimulate, NOT limit, people's thinking on use cases
14:32:17 <antoine> +1
14:32:17 <fsasaki> kai: it is ok to start with a broad set
14:32:20 <emma> +1
14:33:13 <fsasaki> stu: I see that if we try to figure out the dimensions in detail, that may foster specific kinds of answer from the provider
14:33:28 <Zakim> + +34.92.38.aagg
14:33:30 <fsasaki> antoine: agree
14:33:41 <AlexanderH> +1
14:33:52 <fsasaki> etsu: we don't want to prevent people from providing use cases just because the UC does not fit into the template
14:34:00 <edsu> +1 for broad set of examples
14:34:33 <Nico> .aagg is me
14:34:33 <edsu> s/examples/dimension examples/
14:34:55 <fsasaki> antoine: we should start to merge the templates, within one week, and start internal contributions
14:35:08 <fsasaki> .. e.g. Alexander filling that template
14:35:29 <fsasaki> .. for the next call we could make a final decision about the form of the template, and then send them to the wider community
14:35:35 <fsasaki> .. is that OK?
14:35:35 <edsu> +1
14:35:36 <fsasaki> +1
14:35:38 <emma> +1
14:35:41 <GordonD> +1
14:35:43 <Monica> +1
14:35:43 <AlexanderH> +1
14:35:43 <dlukose> +1
14:35:44 <kai> +1
14:35:49 <marcia> ＋1
14:36:22 <stu> +1
14:36:34 <rsinger> +1
14:36:35 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: merge the template proposal within one week, start internal contributions, make a final decision about the form of the template until next call, and then send them to the wider community
14:36:43 <oreste> +1 (but I have a conflicting meeting, I will send comments)
14:36:44 <stu> +1
14:36:49 <Nico> +1
14:37:25 <fsasaki> kai: would be good to have a 2nd example. The 1st concentrated on VIAF
14:37:33 <fsasaki> antoine: good idea
14:37:43 <fsasaki> s/kai/alexander/
14:37:57 <fsasaki> kai: sure, maybe some other people can help as well?
14:38:06 <fsasaki> emma: happy to contribute another example
14:38:07 <edsu> i think folks at LC could probaby agree on populating one
14:38:37 <kcoyle> +1
14:38:48 <Nico> Zakim, +34.92.38.aagg is me
14:38:48 <Zakim> +Nico; got it
14:38:50 <Zakim> -emma
14:39:07 <fsasaki> action: Alexander and the whole group people on the group to populate the template for use cases
14:39:22 <fsasaki> kai: emma, alexander and I can make a small subgroup to work out examples
14:39:25 <fsasaki> antoine: good point
14:39:52 <fsasaki> kai: happy to do that
14:40:02 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aaa]
14:40:05 <fsasaki> s/good point/good idea, so let's do that/
14:40:26 <fsasaki> s/Alexander and the whole group people on the group to populate the template for use cases/Alexander, kai, emma group people on the group to populate the template for use cases/
14:40:33 <antoine> ACTION: Alexander to populate the template for VIAF UC  http://outgoing.typepad.com/outgoing/2009/09/viaf-as-linked-data.html  [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/24-lld-minutes.html#action06] 
14:40:40 <fsasaki> antoine: and we drop the action from last call, which was for alexander only
14:40:45 <antoine> --DROPPED
14:41:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html emma
14:42:51 <emma> OK for me
14:42:55 <fsasaki> action: stu, alexander, kai and emma to suggest another version of the template?
14:42:56 <stu> ok for me
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14:43:09 <fsasaki> ACTION: stu, alexander, kai and emma to suggest another version of the template
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14:43:14 <antoine> s/?/.
14:43:44 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'drop ACTION 3', fsasaki.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:44:51 <kai> zakim, who is making noise?
14:45:03 <Zakim> kai, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: antoine (25%), Jonathan_Rees (11%)
14:45:17 <jar> zakim, mute me
14:45:17 <Zakim> sorry, jar, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:45:20 <fsasaki> topic: Use cases at ALA meeting
14:45:30 <jar> zakim, mute Jonathan_Rees
14:45:30 <Zakim> Jonathan_Rees should now be muted
14:45:36 <fsasaki> antoine: keep that in our agenda, will discuss that during next call
14:46:21 <antoine> zakim, who is noisy
14:46:21 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is noisy', antoine
14:46:27 <antoine> zakim, zho is noisy?
14:46:27 <Zakim> sorry, antoine, I do not understand your question
14:46:50 <fsasaki> topic: Topic list
14:47:07 <antoine> ACTION: ALL: Edit the topics for our work at the wiki: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics  [recorded in  http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action02]
14:47:07 <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
14:47:13 <antoine> --CONTINUES
14:47:20 <fsasaki> antoine: action for everbody to contribute to the wiki is being continued
14:48:23 <fsasaki> abc: Antoine did a first pass and did a good job
14:48:29 <antoine> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics2
14:48:36 <fsasaki> s/abc/Karen/
14:48:44 <edsu> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics3 
14:48:46 <antoine> Karen's list: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics3
14:48:58 <fsasaki> karen: topic list is in a way very suggestive
14:49:09 <antoine> karen+1 for provoking discussions
14:49:18 <fsasaki> .. idea was to have a set of categories which people can think about
14:49:31 <fsasaki> .. not sure how to do this, we may want to do this in mail
14:49:43 <fsasaki> .. if everybody starts editing that may be a bit messy
14:49:57 <fsasaki> .. we should first decide what our main topic areas are, and how to assign them
14:51:09 <fsasaki> .. there were many issues that may be hard to understand, e.g. how to manage linked data, how to apply linked data to the library world
14:51:18 <edsu> kcoyle++ # i like these high level groups
14:51:21 <fsasaki> .. and how to educate our community
14:51:29 <jar> kcoyle, this (topic3) is really good work, thanks
14:51:39 <fsasaki> .. there is the best place to make a discussion
14:51:54 <Monica> s/there/where
14:52:01 <emma> +1, Topic3 is really good
14:52:17 <fsasaki> karen: we need to agree on upper level categories first, after that people can add what they want
14:52:37 <fsasaki> s/first/first (before having everybody editing)/
14:52:49 <fsasaki> antoine: so let's first have a discussion on the mailing list
14:53:21 <fsasaki> .. I am not touching the existing version, but we should dicuss the organization
14:53:32 <stu> would it be helpful to assign an editor for this part of the Wiki who might consolidate the suggestions?
14:53:37 <fsasaki> antoine: both mail and other discussion is fine, we just need to do it
14:53:43 <fsasaki> karen: both fine with me
14:54:02 <fsasaki> edsu: what is the reason to write this document?
14:54:19 <fsasaki> karen: to have use cases, and guide the educational document which we are going to write
14:54:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html fsasaki
14:56:30 <fsasaki> antoine: from a practical point of view, we have seen this as a set of guidelines for the technical deliverable which we are going to produce
14:57:42 <fsasaki> edsu: looks very good to me
14:57:48 <fsasaki> antoine: yes
14:58:35 <fsasaki> stu: if somebody could mangage the structure, people could send suggestions to that person
14:58:51 <Zakim> -emma
14:58:51 <edsu> i wonder if it's worth publishing it as a w3c draft?
14:59:03 <fsasaki> karen: happy to do that
14:59:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aaa]
14:59:37 <fsasaki> edsu: is it OK to write this up to become a W3C document, e.g. a NOTE
14:59:47 <fsasaki> antoine: for the moment we can keep it as wiki
15:00:09 <fsasaki> .. as soon as we are starting putting content into it, we can move gently to another workspace
15:00:28 <fsasaki> karen: many items were very concise
15:00:42 <Monica> where is the appropriate place to expand on the topics?
15:00:46 <fsasaki> .. would be good if these items would be extended
15:01:34 <fsasaki> antoine: should we have an "action: everyone to elaborate on the topics in the wiki"?
15:01:44 <fsasaki> karen: which document should they edit?
15:01:50 <fsasaki> antoine: just send mails?
15:02:06 <fsasaki> karen: people can edit what they are responsible for, and I can ask questions
15:02:31 <fsasaki> antoine: if you are the official responsible person for the wiki page, you can organize that as you want
15:02:42 <fsasaki> topic: wrap up (action review)
15:02:57 <fsasaki> action: everyone to elaborate on topics in the wiki
15:02:57 <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
15:03:23 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: karen to be the editor of the topic list
15:03:43 <fsasaki> s/action review/action and resolution/
15:03:50 <antoine> ACTION: ALL: Edit the topics for our work at the wiki: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics  [recorded in  http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html#action02]
15:03:50 <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
15:03:53 <antoine> --DROPPED
15:04:05 <antoine> ACTION: Antoine to ask Karen Coyle to start curating topics list. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/06/24-lld-minutes.html#action08] 
15:04:05 <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
15:04:08 <antoine> --DONE
15:04:21 <kcoyle> should topics3 become topics?
15:04:32 <fsasaki> topic: Other topics
15:04:55 <fsasaki> antoine: just links to areas which are not so active at the moment
15:05:39 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
15:05:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], edsu, rsinger (muted), [IPcaller.a], michaelp (muted), Oreste, [IPcaller.aa], kai, Felix (muted), antoine, fumi (muted), [IPcaller.aaaa],
15:05:42 <Zakim> ... +1.330.289.aaee, [LC], jeff_? (muted), Jonathan_Rees (muted), GordonD?, +44.194.346.aaff (muted), GordonD, Nico, emma
15:05:43 <stu> stu was on the call
15:05:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see trackbot, Nico, kcoyle, jar, Monica, marcia, rsinger, digikim, fumi, ray, dlukose, oreste, michaelp, RRSAgent, stu, AlexanderH, Zakim, fsasaki, antoine, jeff_, emma,
15:05:48 <kcoyle> kcoyle on call
15:05:48 <Zakim> ... kai, edsu, ww
15:05:55 <michaelp> Michael Panzer was on the call.
15:05:56 <antoine> antoine
15:06:03 <jeff_> jeff_
15:06:04 <fsasaki> present+ michaelP
15:06:09 <jar> Jonathan Rees was on the call, as zakim says
15:06:11 <marcia> marcia is on the call
15:06:12 <rsinger> rsinger
15:06:16 <emma> emmanuelle was on the call
15:06:21 <edsu> s'up y'all
15:06:30 <fsasaki> topic: wrap up
15:06:31 <Nico> Nico was on the call
15:06:32 <digikim> kim was on the call
15:06:40 <fumi> fumi was
15:06:44 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:06:45 <Monica> Monica was on teh call
15:06:47 <ray> ray here
15:06:47 <AlexanderH> Alexander was on the coll
15:06:47 <jar> I volunteer to clean up whatever mess I created by inviting trackbot
15:06:49 <Zakim> -GordonD?
15:06:50 <oreste> bye
15:06:51 <Zakim> - +1.330.289.aaee
15:06:52 <Zakim> -jeff_?
15:06:52 <Zakim> -michaelp
15:06:53 <Zakim> -edsu
15:06:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html fsasaki
15:06:56 <AlexanderH> bye
15:06:59 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.aa]
15:07:05 <Zakim> -Oreste
15:07:09 <Zakim> -fumi
15:07:09 <jeff_> jeff_ has left #lld
15:07:10 <stu> stu has left #lld
15:07:11 <Zakim> -Nico
15:07:13 <Zakim> - +44.194.346.aaff
15:07:13 <digikim> bye
15:07:17 <Zakim> -[LC]
15:07:19 <Zakim> -Felix
15:07:20 <digikim> digikim has left #lld
15:07:20 <jar> zakim, unmute Jonathan_Rees
15:07:23 <Zakim> -kai
15:07:25 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.aaaa]
15:07:29 <Zakim> -rsinger
15:07:31 <Zakim> Jonathan_Rees should no longer be muted
15:07:34 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
15:07:46 <Zakim> -GordonD
15:08:30 <jar> trackbot, bye
15:08:30 <trackbot> trackbot has left #lld
15:08:36 <oreste> oreste has left #lld
15:10:17 <michaelp> michaelp has left #lld
15:10:55 <Zakim> -Jonathan_Rees
15:12:34 <Nico> Nico has left #lld
15:15:42 <Zakim> -antoine
15:15:43 <Zakim> -emma
15:15:43 <Zakim> INC_LLDXG()10:00AM has ended
15:15:45 <Zakim> Attendees were [IPcaller], edsu, +1.423.463.aaaa, +1.330.289.aabb, Oreste, michaelp, rsinger, Felix, +81.35.937.aadd, fumi, kai, +1.330.289.aaee, [LC], emma, Jonathan_Rees,
15:15:48 <Zakim> ... antoine, jeff_?, GordonD?, +44.194.346.aaff, GordonD, Nico
15:18:25 <Nico> Nico has joined #lld
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