IRC log of wai-wcag on 2010-06-24

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 24 June 2010
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2010AprJun/0066.html
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regrets: Andrew_LaHart, Marc_Johlic
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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
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+ +1.650.214.aaaa
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+Michael_Cooper
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zakim, aaaa is Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid; got it
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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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+David_MacDonald
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+[Oracle]
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+Bruce_Bailey
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zakim, Oracle has James_Nurthen
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+James_Nurthen; got it
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+ +1.425.822.aabb
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zakim, +1.425.822.aabb is sofia_celic
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+sofia_celic; got it
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+??P7
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zakim, ??P7 is Ben_Caldwell
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+Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:11:29 [MichaelC]
topic: Media Access Requirements
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-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Requirements HTML A11Y TF wiki developing media accessibility requirements
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http://www.eramp.com/david/Media.html
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topic: Survey for this week
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-> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20100624misc/results Survey for 24 June 2010
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scribe: AWK
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TOPIC: Issue 2681: HTML Headings technique: duplicated
20:32:36 [David]
The objective of this technique is to use HTML and XHTML heading markup to convey the structure of the content and to use headings to create chunks of information that can be found easily by people with disabilities, such as a blind person using a screen reader, or a person with a cognitive disability who uses assistive technology that delineates groups of information, or someone with a...
20:32:38 [David]
...communication disability or illiteracy, who uses a screen reader to assist them in their reading.
20:32:39 [David]
Using headings merely to change the appearance of text does not convey the organization of the content, and may confuse users who use headings to perceive structure or rely on them for navigation. Conversely, while applying bold format, or even "class=heading", can result in the visual display of a heading, assistive technologies will not recognize such text as headings.
20:32:41 [David]
It is recommended that headings be presented in a hierarchical structure indicating top level section and subsections (i.e., h2 is a subsection of h1). Hierarchical presentation of heading markup is not always possible or practical for all design layouts and therefore not strictly required. However as a general rule, the most important information should be given the highest logical level,...
20:32:43 [David]
...and subsections should be give subsequent logical levels.
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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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+ +1.650.214.aacc
20:36:23 [MichaelC]
zakim, aacc is Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid; got it
20:39:35 [jamesn]
zakim, who is noisy?
20:39:48 [Zakim]
jamesn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Cooper (24%), Ben_Caldwell (9%)
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ACTION: David to propose resolution for H69
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Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - David
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Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dmacdona, dtodd2)
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ACTION: DMacdona to propose resolution for H69
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Created ACTION-98 - Propose resolution for H69 [on David MacDonald - due 2010-07-01].
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RESOLUTION: Accept 2681 as amended
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TOPIC: Issue 2710: How does 2.4.5 apply to this scenario?
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RESOLUTION: Accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Introduction to Understanding WCAG 2.0
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RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
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TOPIC: Advisory Technique for SC 3.2.1, 3.2.5: Opening new windows and tabs only when best from an accessibility perspective
20:54:32 [Loretta]
Giving users advanced warning when opening a new window
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ACTION: Dmacdona use example 4 to write up 'giving users advanced warning when opening a new window'
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Created ACTION-99 - Use example 4 to write up 'giving users advanced warning when opening a new window' [on David MacDonald - due 2010-07-01].
20:56:01 [Loretta]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2010/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20100617/G200
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RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique in favor of modification of G200
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+ +1.608.514.aadd
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s/RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique in favor of modification of G200/RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique
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s/RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique in favor of modification of G200/RESOLUTION: Reject new advisory technique/
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TOPIC: How to Meet WCAG 2.0
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ACTION: Andrew to send How to Meet wish list to Ben.
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Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Andrew
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Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. akirkpat2, alahart)
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ACTION: akirkpat2 to send How to Meet wish list to Ben.
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Created ACTION-100 - Send How to Meet wish list to Ben. [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2010-07-01].
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topic: Review of editors drafts
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-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20-TECHS/flash Flash techniques
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-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20-TECHS/aria ARIA techniques
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ACTION: akirkpat2 to send michael rundown of files and what to link to for each technique
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Created ACTION-101 - Send michael rundown of files and what to link to for each technique [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2010-07-01].
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-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/agenda Tracker items
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-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/participants.html Updated participants list
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-sofia_celic
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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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-[Oracle]
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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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-Ben_Caldwell
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-Michael_Cooper
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- +1.608.514.aadd
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zakim, list participants
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As of this point the attendees have been +1.650.214.aaaa, Michael_Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, James_Nurthen, sofia_celic,
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... Ben_Caldwell, +1.650.214.aacc, +1.608.514.aadd
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zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.650.214.aaaa, Michael_Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, James_Nurthen, sofia_celic,
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: David to propose resolution for H69 [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T20-40-39
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ACTION: DMacdona to propose resolution for H69 [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T20-41-25
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ACTION: Dmacdona use example 4 to write up 'giving users advanced warning when opening a new window' [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T20-54-51
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ACTION: Andrew to send How to Meet wish list to Ben. [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T21-07-16
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ACTION: akirkpat2 to send How to Meet wish list to Ben. [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T21-07-28
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ACTION: akirkpat2 to send michael rundown of files and what to link to for each technique [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/24-wai-wcag-irc#T21-23-46
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... Ben_Caldwell, +1.650.214.aacc, +1.608.514.aadd