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14:27:59 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG
14:27:59 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see GA_SVGWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:28:00 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
14:28:00 <trackbot> Date: 17 June 2010
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14:29:17 <ed> trackbot, start telcon
14:29:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:29:21 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG
14:29:21 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see GA_SVGWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
14:29:22 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
14:29:22 <trackbot> Date: 17 June 2010
14:30:30 <Zakim> GA_SVGWG()10:30AM has now started
14:30:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:30:42 <ed> Zakim, [IP is me
14:30:42 <Zakim> +ed; got it
14:31:59 <Zakim> +ChrisL
14:32:54 <ChrisL> Regrets: Doug
14:32:59 <ChrisL> Chair: Chris
14:33:07 <Zakim> + +33.9.53.77.aaaa
14:33:10 <ChrisL> Chair: Erik
14:33:18 <ChrisL> Scribe: Chris
14:33:47 <ChrisL> zakim, +33 is tbah
14:33:47 <Zakim> +tbah; got it
14:33:53 <ed> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0139.html
14:34:54 <ChrisL> Regrets: Doug, Anthony
14:35:23 <ChrisL> Topic: Telcon times
14:35:43 <ChrisL> ed: suggest 8pm UTC for Tuesday and current time for Thursday
14:36:15 <ChrisL> ed: not clear if its ok for doug. jwatt showed that as a good time?
14:36:33 <ed> http://mcc.id.au/2007/03/telcon/?op=impossible
14:36:38 <ChrisL> tbah: fine for me
14:37:29 <ChrisL> resolved: new telcon time is 8pm UTC Tuesday, and existing time for Thursday
14:37:53 <ChrisL> ChrisL: also better for taskforce
14:38:03 <ChrisL> action: chris update telcon times booking
14:38:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2798 - Update telcon times booking [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-06-24].
14:38:38 <ChrisL> Topic: Publishing SVG 1.1 
14:38:51 <ChrisL> ed: jwatt confirmed ok, erik is ok
14:39:52 <ChrisL> ChrisL: (explains last call, PER etc)
14:40:22 <ChrisL> tbah: also, could the roadmap be updated to give people an idea what to look at
14:40:33 <ChrisL> ed: roadmap will be part of new charter
14:40:53 <ChrisL> ... needs patrick to put conclusions from f2f into wiki
14:42:58 <ChrisL> ChrisL: fairly confident doug is ok with last call
14:43:25 <ChrisL> resolved: SVG 1.1SE will go to last call, then PER
14:44:19 <ChrisL> ChrisL: erik please send a status report to HCG 
14:46:36 <ChrisL> ChrisL: good to have LC finished and PER started by SVG Open
14:47:13 <ChrisL> Topic: Test suite progress
14:48:17 <ChrisL> ed: saw some tests for PNG, will review
14:49:49 <ChrisL> ChrisL: can update pass criteria for number of images on each row?
14:50:31 <ChrisL> ed: with that change we can approve them
14:50:46 <ChrisL> action: erik to review the png tests and generate reference images
14:50:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2799 - Review the png tests and generate reference images [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-06-24].
14:51:21 <ChrisL> ed; made minor changes to some tests, patrick complained about one in the impl report
14:51:26 <ChrisL> svg-dom-01
14:51:37 <ChrisL> ed: ready for review now
14:51:56 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/svgdom-over-01-f.svg
14:51:58 <ChrisL> ed: patrick is waiting for some changes, which are now made
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14:53:51 <ChrisL> ChrisL: would be better if Inkscape used the up to date unmodified test suite rather than its own fork
14:54:13 <ChrisL> tbah: need to have text rendering that matches the reference image. depends on svg font support
14:55:31 <ChrisL> ChrisL: most tests do not depend on svg fonts to pass unless they are specifically 
14:55:52 <ChrisL> ed: useful to have inkscape to reference some raster images where batik fails
14:56:05 <ChrisL> tbah: did this a few years ago
14:56:27 <ChrisL> ed: some opera folks asked for tests to not have text as it messes up comparisons
14:56:53 <ChrisL> tbah: maybe limit text to some area?
14:58:12 <ChrisL> chris: could put a class on all annotation text so that with a one line stylesheet a set of ref images could be made with only essential text
14:58:32 <ChrisL> tbah: inkscape does not support fall back fonts, but does have some stylesheet support
14:59:40 <ChrisL> erik: another option is to have an easily modifiable stylesheet to hide things as needed for automatic testing. did that for mini object harness
14:59:54 <ChrisL> chris: what is that harness?
15:00:15 <ChrisL> ed: its a more compact version than the full harness, just the pass criteria
15:01:00 <ChrisL> ... opera qa intersted to see the tests all finished
15:01:43 <ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/
15:02:07 <ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test
15:03:06 <ChrisL> topic: mime registration
15:04:24 <ChrisL> ChrisL: just updated the registration template to conform to rfc4288
15:04:25 <ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/mimereg.html
15:09:41 <ChrisL> ed: ok, lets send in the registration
15:09:59 <ChrisL> action: chris send in the media type registration for image/svg+xml
15:09:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2800 - Send in the media type registration for image/svg+xml [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-06-24].
15:11:33 <ChrisL> action: chris to update cover page of svg1.1se for last call
15:11:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2801 - Update cover page of svg1.1se for last call [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-06-24].
15:12:05 <ChrisL> so 3 weeks from tues would be 13 July
15:13:35 <ChrisL> zakim, list attendees
15:13:35 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been [IPcaller], ed, ChrisL, +33.9.53.77.aaaa, tbah
15:14:34 <Zakim> -ChrisL
15:14:36 <Zakim> -ed
15:14:37 <Zakim> -tbah
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15:14:39 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
15:14:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/17-svg-minutes.html ChrisL
15:14:40 <Zakim> Attendees were [IPcaller], ed, ChrisL, +33.9.53.77.aaaa, tbah
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15:21:34 <ChrisL> rrsagent, here
15:21:34 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/06/17-svg-irc#T15-21-34
15:48:20 <ChrisL> ed, I just comitted the front page changes for lcwd
15:48:37 <ed> cool, will update and rerun scripts
15:48:51 <ChrisL> thanks
15:49:03 <ed> just mailed htcg
15:51:17 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr#last-call
15:51:36 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl&docstatus=lc-wd-tr
15:57:01 <ed> update is checked in now
15:57:10 <ChrisL> thanks
15:59:38 <ed> so, with those links you mean to say I should send a variant of the htcg mail to chairs@w3.org too?
16:00:36 <ed> any criteria we haven't met?
16:00:39 <ChrisL> yes, ideally
16:01:04 <ChrisL> point out tha its a revision of an existing recommendation, incorporating errata
16:01:24 <ChrisL> that language is aimed more at specs that have not yet made it to recommendation
16:01:46 <ed> ACTION: ed to announce last call of SVG 1.1 (point out that its a revision of an existing recommendation, incorporating errata) to chairs@w3.org and www-svg
16:01:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2802 - Announce last call of SVG 1.1 (point out that its a revision of an existing recommendation, incorporating errata) to chairs@w3.org and www-svg [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-06-24].
16:04:00 <ed> who sends the publication request? and when? (do we satisfy all the pubrules atm?)
16:09:11 <ChrisL> i sent a heads up pubrequest, will send an update once its pubrules happy
16:10:34 <ChrisL> if you could turn the crank again?
16:13:12 <ed> sure, I can probably do another update later tonight, whenever you are ready
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