IRC log of dap on 2010-06-16

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RRSAgent, make logs world

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Zakim, this will be DAP

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ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 37 minutes

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Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 16 June 2010

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Chair: Frederick_Hirsch

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Present+ Frederick_Hirsch

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Regrets+ Robin_Berjon

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0152.html

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Regrets+ Dzung_Tran

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Topic: Administrative

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Regrets+ Laura_Arribas

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Regrets+ Suresh_Chitturi

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Regrets+ Paddy_Byers

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Regrets+ Erica_Newland, John_Morris

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Regrets+ Marco_Marengo

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Present+ Maria_Oteo

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UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started

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+[IPcaller]

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+alissa

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+bryan_sullivan

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zakim, [IPcaller] is me

14:00:16 [Zakim]

+fjh; got it

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Present+ Alissa_Cooper

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+jsalsman

14:01:16 [fjh]

zakim, who is here?

14:01:16 [Zakim]

On the phone I see bryan_sullivan, fjh, alissa, jsalsman

14:01:18 [Zakim]

On IRC I see jsalsman, alissa, maoteo, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, wmaslowski, Marcos, tlr, lgombos, ingmar, ilkka, dom, trackbot

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Present+ James_Salsman

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present+ bryan_sullivan

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Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux

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Present+ Claes_Nilsson

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zakim, who is here?

14:03:12 [Zakim]

On the phone I see bryan_sullivan, fjh, alissa, jsalsman

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On IRC I see Claes, bryan_sullivan, jsalsman, alissa, maoteo, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, wmaslowski, Marcos, tlr, lgombos, ingmar, ilkka, dom, trackbot

14:03:22 [maoteo]

I am having problems for getting into the bridge

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+Dom

14:04:01 [maoteo]

yes

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many times

14:04:42 [tlr]

zakim, call thomas-781

14:04:45 [Zakim]

ok, tlr; the call is being made

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+Thomas

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zakim, code?

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the conference code is 3279 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom

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+ +358.504.86aaaa

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zakim, aaaa is ilkka

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+ilkka; got it

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Present+ Ilkka_Oksanen

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+ +34.97.421.aabb

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zakim, aabb is maoteo

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+maoteo; got it

14:06:55 [fjh]

zakim, who is here?

14:06:55 [Zakim]

On the phone I see bryan_sullivan, fjh, alissa, jsalsman, Dom, Thomas, ilkka, maoteo

14:06:57 [Zakim]

On IRC I see Marcos_, richt, AnssiK, Claes, bryan_sullivan, jsalsman, alissa, maoteo, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, wmaslowski, Marcos, tlr, lgombos, ingmar, ilkka, dom, trackbot

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+ +358.504.86aacc

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zakim, aacc is AnssiK

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+AnssiK; got it

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Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen

14:07:23 [dom]

zakim, who's noisy?

14:07:33 [Zakim]

dom, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: maoteo (4%), fjh (35%), Dom (4%)

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ScribeNick: maoteo

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zakim, mute me

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Dom should now be muted

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zakim, mute me

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jsalsman should now be muted

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zakim, I am thomas

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ok, tlr, I now associate you with Thomas

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zakim, mute me

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Thomas should now be muted

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Topic: announcements

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DAP registration form

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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/london2010/

14:09:16 [maoteo]

fjh: London registration is open, please complete asap

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-> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/london2010/results Current registrants for London F2F (17 registered)

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ation and information available (F2F after London F2F, 4-5 November )

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2010Jun/0001.html

14:09:38 [maoteo]

... tpac registration is already available, F2F meeting for DAP already booked

14:10:00 [Zakim]

+ +46.1.08.01.aadd

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Topic: minutes approval

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9 June 2010

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http://www.w3.org/2010/06/09-dap-minutes.html

14:10:23 [Claes]

zakim, aadd is Claes

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+Claes; got it

14:10:26 [jsalsman]

thanks to the scribe who has better ears than I

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Resolution: minutes of 9 June approved

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+ +44.777.911.aaee

14:11:22 [richt]

Zakim, aaee is me

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+richt; got it

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Present+ Richard_Tibbett

14:11:33 [maoteo]

Topic: Policy Framework

14:11:45 [jsalsman]

Dom's comments:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0133.html

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Framework http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0133.html

14:12:19 [maoteo]

fjh: Dom has specific comments on the framework doc

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... most of them seem to be editorial

14:12:44 [jsalsman]

I haven't been able to get through all those yet

14:13:07 [fjh]

need to crisply and concretely define capabilities and features

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Daniel message http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Feb/0142.html

14:13:32 [Zakim]

-bryan_sullivan

14:13:34 [dom]

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/4FC8BAE9-E43E-40FD-8823-1EC55417A0ED@nokia.com FJH's comment on capabilities and features for Contacts API

14:13:58 [Zakim]

+bryan_sullivan

14:14:26 [fjh]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0172.html

14:14:31 [maoteo]

fjh: we may need to do the work on capabilties and features in conjunction with the API definition

14:15:05 [jsalsman]

Should remote policy provisioning be removed into a seperate document?

14:15:06 [maoteo]

fjh: ... initial input was based on BONDI APIs, but for instance DAP APIs are different

14:15:15 [dom]

ack me

14:15:52 [maoteo]

dom: before we move forward with the policy framework we need to discuss features and capabilities in a concrete manner

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... need to avoid abstract discussions

14:16:59 [maoteo]

... solving relationship with DCO may just be an editorial work

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q+

14:17:25 [fjh]

q?

14:17:28 [maoteo]

fjh: we should publish something soon to keep the momentum

14:17:30 [fjh]

ack richt

14:17:33 [dom]

zakim, mute me

14:17:33 [Zakim]

Dom should now be muted

14:18:10 [jsalsman]

Should initial policy default provisioning be the same as enterprise policy re-provisioning? In a separate document like "Default security provisioning"?

14:18:14 [maoteo]

richt: there is a possible mapping for contacts

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... should send to the mailing list

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s/should/will/

14:19:12 [fjh]

q?

14:19:46 [jsalsman]

yeah

14:19:50 [maoteo]

fjh: anybody willing to contribute to the framework doc so that we can publish next week?

14:19:57 [richt]

FYI, I sent an email RE: Capabilities and Contacts a while back: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Dec/0195.html

14:19:58 [jsalsman]

let's split out the default perms

14:20:15 [richt]

things may have changed a little bit since then but it's been considered.

14:20:50 [maoteo]

bryan_sullivan: will try to provide some inputs by next week

14:21:08 [jsalsman]

what is the semantic distinction between framework and profile?

14:21:20 [Zakim]

+??P17

14:21:27 [fjh]

action: bryan to respond to Dom's comments before next week, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0133.html , http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0132.html

14:21:28 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-193 - Respond to Dom's comments before next week, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0133.html , http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0132.html [on Bryan Sullivan - due 2010-06-23].

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known issue

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present+ David_Rogers

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zakim, ??P17 is drogersuk

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+drogersuk; got it

14:22:20 [jsalsman]

I would rather see something like data structures/default provisioning than framework/profile

14:23:56 [dom]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0132.html Dom's comments on XACML Profile CfC

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ack me

14:24:42 [fjh]

Highlights of comments, need to clarify what is profiling of XACML 2 versus repeat of XACML material

14:24:45 [Zakim]

+wojtekM

14:24:54 [wmaslowski]

Present+ Wojciech_Masłowski

14:24:57 [fjh]

Move examples from examples document to XACML profile

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conformance needed

14:25:15 [maoteo]

dom: general concern is that the policy document is not in a publishable form

14:25:22 [richt]

+1

14:25:27 [jsalsman]

agreed with move examples, but I have comments about the overlap between framework and profile documents

14:25:46 [fjh]

prompt-x seems to require prompting, perhaps should be restated as user-permission

14:26:10 [maoteo]

Resolution: Merge examples document with profile doc

14:26:23 [jsalsman]

James Salsman

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or Jim

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ack me

14:26:36 [dom]

zakim, mute me

14:26:36 [Zakim]

Dom should now be muted

14:27:08 [maoteo]

jsalsman: there is an overlap framework between framework and profiles

14:27:24 [maoteo]

... suggestion 1 document for data structures and another ones for the algorithm

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s/ones/one

14:28:09 [maoteo]

... and maybe both should contain examples

14:28:30 [dom]

q+

14:28:45 [maoteo]

fjh: profile is very linked to XACML whereas the framework is not

14:29:35 [dom]

q+ to say that Framework currently defines a lot of syntactic aspects of the XML format (in particular in section 3.2-3.4)

14:29:55 [fjh]

ack dom

14:29:57 [Zakim]

dom, you wanted to say that Framework currently defines a lot of syntactic aspects of the XML format (in particular in section 3.2-3.4)

14:30:01 [jsalsman]

Zakim, mute me

14:30:01 [Zakim]

jsalsman should now be muted

14:30:10 [maoteo]

fjh: sending a proposal in the mailing list would help to standard the suggested approach

14:30:41 [fjh]

dom notes section 3 of framework has lots of syntactic detail, hence division between model and format is not clean

14:30:49 [maoteo]

dom: currently the division between the model and the format is not very clean

14:31:11 [maoteo]

... for instance sections 3.2.2 3.2.4 provide a lot of syntactic detail

14:31:22 [dom]

zakim, mute me

14:31:22 [Zakim]

Dom should now be muted

14:32:23 [fjh]

example

14:32:43 [fjh]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0094.html comments from mohamed

14:33:20 [jsalsman]

how about Policy Framework and Profile (with examples included) -- kind of a merge, and Provisioning (actions, also with examples)

14:33:25 [maoteo]

resolution: editors to include editorial comments suggested b Mohamed and Dom

14:33:34 [dom]

s/resolution/RESOLUTION/

14:33:37 [maoteo]

s/resolution/Resolution

14:34:11 [jsalsman]

where is provisioning in scope?

14:34:47 [fjh]

Privacy and Policy requirements are ready to publish?

14:34:50 [dom]

q+

14:34:51 [maoteo]

fjh: privacy and policy requirements are ready to publish

14:34:54 [fjh]

ack dom

14:34:55 [dom]

ack me

14:35:30 [maoteo]

dom: no comments received

14:35:48 [maoteo]

... either for publishing or not publishing them

14:36:34 [jsalsman]

the examples? can they be merged?

14:37:37 [maoteo]

Resolution: Publish the Policy and Privacy Requirements doc, publication date will be 29 June

14:37:42 [jsalsman]

currently the examples document has one example "Defending against premium rate abuse"

14:38:19 [dom]

s/Resolution/RESOLUTION/

14:38:26 [dom]

zakim, mute me

14:38:26 [Zakim]

Dom should now be muted

14:38:29 [jsalsman]

I agree the policy and privacy requirements can be published, except for the part about always avoiding prompts, I think that needs to be reworded

14:38:33 [fjh]

action: fjh to do pubrules on policy and privacy requirements

14:38:33 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-194 - Do pubrules on policy and privacy requirements [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-06-23].

14:39:04 [maoteo]

TOPIC: Transferring File* to WebApps

14:39:28 [fjh]

proposal

14:39:30 [fjh]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0163.html

14:39:30 [dom]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0163.html Transferring File* to WebApps — Proposed path forward

14:39:42 [maoteo]

fjh: Robin made a proposal on the mailing list

14:40:11 [fjh]

File Writer and File Directories and System moves to WebApps

14:40:51 [maoteo]

... the suggestion is moving File Writer and File Directories and System to WebApps

14:41:41 [maoteo]

... is there any objection to Robin's proposal?

14:41:42 [dom]

+1 on moving File* to WebApps

14:42:15 [maoteo]

bryan_sullivan: is the assumption that there is no more File related work in DAP?

14:42:17 [jsalsman]

how about input type=file ?

14:42:41 [maoteo]

... the ability to extend these APIs for non browser contexts is important

14:43:09 [jsalsman]

can we approve the mime/type;source=device formalism before we transfer this work?

14:43:55 [maoteo]

fjh: first of all we should try to work with WebApps

14:44:40 [maoteo]

bryansullivan: there at least two additional methods on the FileSystem interface that are needed from non browser contexts

14:44:49 [maoteo]

s/bryansullivan/bryan_sullivan/

14:45:31 [maoteo]

fjh: could be handled by an extended spec and conformance

14:45:37 [jsalsman]

also, treating the entire file system as a single device is really a problem

14:45:50 [jsalsman]

traditionally perms are per-file

14:45:51 [dom]

+1 on layering approach as needed

14:47:14 [maoteo]

fjh: suggestion is following the extension concept instead of defining a new API in DAP

14:47:29 [dom]

ack me

14:48:21 [fjh]

q?

14:48:34 [jsalsman]

there were :)

14:49:23 [jsalsman]

ack me

14:52:21 [jsalsman]

mute me

14:54:14 [fjh]

proposed RESOLUTION: The DAP WG agrees to move the File Writer and File Directories and Systems API specifications work to the WebApps WG, however the DAP WG may continue work on extensions to the APIs or additional work in this area

14:54:26 [jsalsman]

+1

14:55:06 [fjh]

proposed RESOLUTION: The DAP WG agrees to move the File Writer and File Directories and Systems API specifications work to the WebApps WG

14:55:16 [dom]

+1

14:55:28 [tlr]

+1 to the simple one

14:55:31 [maoteo]

RESOLUTION: The DAP WG agrees to move the File Writer and File Directories and Systems API specifications work to the WebApps WG

14:55:55 [dom]

s/ RESOLUTION/RESOLUTION/

14:56:11 [fjh]

action: fjh to notify chairs of WebApps of DAP decision re file specs

14:56:11 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-195 - Notify chairs of WebApps of DAP decision re file specs [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-06-23].

14:56:15 [dom]

zakim, mute me

14:56:15 [Zakim]

Dom should now be muted

14:56:36 [maoteo]

TOPIC: SysInfo

14:56:57 [dom]

ACTION-191?

14:56:57 [trackbot]

ACTION-191 -- James Salsman to send pre-LC editorial comments on system-info and camera/Media Capture -- due 2010-06-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW

14:56:57 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/191

14:57:04 [dom]

ack me

14:57:10 [jsalsman]

ack me

14:57:26 [maoteo]

dom: sent some comments to improve the codecs part

14:57:33 [dom]

s/sent/James sent/

14:57:58 [dom]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0174.html James' comments on SysInfo (and Media Capture)

14:59:11 [maoteo]

jsalsman: substantial problems, types are free forms, problem with exceptions, microphone should have a name attribute, mime types are free form

15:00:04 [richt]

jsalsman, 'No exceptions' is an automatic ReSpec.js addition to the specs...maybe that needs addressing on the mailing list? (actually, is there a dedicated mailing list for discussing ReSpec e.g. pub-tools?)

15:00:12 [bryan_sullivan]

if you need someone to make the changes for Jame's comments I can help out

15:00:12 [dom]

zakim, mute me

15:00:12 [Zakim]

Dom should now be muted

15:00:16 [jsalsman]

mute me

15:00:18 [dom]

richt, spec-prod@w3.orgis that list

15:00:26 [dom]

s/orgis/org is/

15:00:28 [richt]

thanks, dom

15:00:31 [dom]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/

15:01:05 [maoteo]

bryan_sullivan: Can help with implementing the agreed changes

15:01:20 [fjh]

action: dzung to incorporate edits from James proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0174.html

15:01:20 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-196 - Incorporate edits from James proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0174.html [on Dzung Tran - due 2010-06-23].

15:01:28 [fjh]

all, please review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0174.html

15:01:35 [dom]

Zakim, mute jsalsman

15:01:35 [Zakim]

jsalsman should now be muted

15:02:10 [maoteo]

TOPIC: Contacts

15:02:20 [fjh]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0150.html

15:02:48 [dom]

-> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/ Contacts API editors draft

15:02:50 [maoteo]

richt: some changes on the normative descriptions

15:03:28 [dom]

ISSUE-71?

15:03:28 [trackbot]

ISSUE-71 -- Difference in data model between Contacts/Calendar APIs and vCard/vCalendar -- open

15:03:28 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/71

15:03:40 [Zakim]

-Thomas

15:04:12 [maoteo]

... the APIs themselves have not changed that much, but the schema has changed

15:04:27 [dom]

-> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/#contactproperties-interface Contact Properties

15:05:11 [maoteo]

... for instance, the contact properties have changed, now they are not defined in the spec but linked to the portable contacts definition

15:05:28 [tlr]

zakim, call thomas-781

15:05:28 [Zakim]

ok, tlr; the call is being made

15:05:29 [Zakim]

+Thomas

15:06:03 [fjh]

ContactProperties interface has changed to use portable schema

15:06:15 [maoteo]

richt: producing a common set is very difficult due to the different information available in different sources: device, web, UICC

15:07:47 [maoteo]

fjh: target publication date?

15:08:11 [fjh]

suggest WG review updated contacts draft then publish on 29th

15:08:37 [dom]

ack me

15:09:57 [fjh]

action: robin to add to agenda next week to agree to publish updated contacts WD on 29 June

15:09:57 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-197 - Add to agenda next week to agree to publish updated contacts WD on 29 June [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-06-23].

15:09:58 [dom]

zakim, mute me

15:09:58 [Zakim]

Dom should now be muted

15:10:09 [richt]

q+

15:10:31 [fjh]

ack richt

15:10:55 [dom]

ack me

15:12:31 [jsalsman]

for the interop aspects it might be better to get it out in front of the public early

15:12:56 [fjh]

action: richt to prepare Contacts for publications, with pubrules

15:12:56 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-198 - Prepare Contacts for publications, with pubrules [on Richard Tibbett - due 2010-06-23].

15:13:31 [jsalsman]

what is access "once" for something like calendar or contacts?

15:13:31 [dom]

zakim, mute me

15:13:31 [Zakim]

Dom should now be muted

15:13:40 [jsalsman]

access to one item or one query?

15:13:53 [maoteo]

fjh: status of calendar?

15:13:59 [fjh]

topic: Calendar

15:14:11 [maoteo]

richt: most of the effort has been put on Contacts

15:14:21 [fjh]

richt some open issues on dates and times to address on list

15:14:21 [dom]

ISSUE-81?

15:14:21 [trackbot]

ISSUE-81 -- How to represent dates? ES has Date but with no TZ information; using strings is less than ideal; do we have to create a Web Dates specification? -- open

15:14:21 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/81

15:14:32 [fjh]

richt also notes some open editorial actions

15:14:48 [fjh]

richt notes need to discuss with suresh, review on next week's call

15:14:57 [maoteo]

... some discussion on the mailing list, need to talk to Suresh to check what are the next steps

15:15:25 [jsalsman]

julian date in double precision floating point UT timestamp?

15:15:28 [tlr]

q+

15:15:28 [alissa]

q+

15:15:48 [fjh]

ack tlr

15:16:09 [fjh]

ack alissa

15:17:31 [tlr]

action-92?

15:17:31 [trackbot]

ACTION-92 -- Thomas Roessler to give a heads up to the IETF/W3C liaison for review and input from IETF around PIM -- due 2010-03-03 -- PENDINGREVIEW

15:17:31 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/92

15:17:32 [maoteo]

TOPIC: Pending Actions

15:17:33 [richt]

q+ to close ACTION-125

15:18:14 [fjh]

ack richt

15:18:14 [Zakim]

richt, you wanted to close ACTION-125

15:18:16 [richt]

yep, that is a seperate q

15:18:27 [fjh]

action-125?

15:18:30 [trackbot]

ACTION-125 -- Richard Tibbett to fold in Contacts changes -- due 2010-06-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW

15:18:30 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/125

15:19:06 [fjh]

please let richard if any outstanding changes to contacts needed, please review

15:19:23 [Zakim]

-bryan_sullivan

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-alissa

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-Dom

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-jsalsman

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-wojtekM

15:19:32 [Zakim]

-Thomas

15:19:35 [Zakim]

-maoteo

15:19:35 [fjh]

rrsagent, generate minutes

15:19:35 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-dap-minutes.html fjh

15:19:36 [Zakim]

-ilkka

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-richt

15:19:41 [Zakim]

-Claes

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-fjh

15:19:56 [Zakim]

-drogersuk

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15:28:40 [fjh]

s/I am having problems for getting into the bridge//

15:28:56 [fjh]

s/yes//

15:28:59 [fjh]

s/many times//

15:29:09 [fjh]

s/ thanks to the scribe who has better ears than I//

15:30:11 [fjh]

s/he DAP WG agrees to move the File Writer and File Directories and Systems API/ DAP WG agrees to move the File Writer and File Directories and System API/

15:30:27 [fjh]

s/mute me//

15:30:44 [fjh]

rrsagent, generate minutes

15:30:44 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-dap-minutes.html fjh

15:31:30 [fjh]

s/T DAP WG agrees/The DAP WG agrees/

15:31:36 [fjh]

rrsagent,generate minutes

15:31:36 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-dap-minutes.html fjh

15:33:41 [fjh]

s/suggested b M/suggested by M/

15:34:17 [fjh]

rrsagent, generate minutes

15:34:17 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/16-dap-minutes.html fjh

15:35:00 [Zakim]

disconnecting the lone participant, AnssiK, in UW_DAP()10:00AM

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UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were alissa, bryan_sullivan, fjh, jsalsman, Dom, Thomas, +358.504.86aaaa, ilkka, +34.97.421.aabb, maoteo, +358.504.86aacc, AnssiK, +46.1.08.01.aadd, Claes,

15:35:07 [Zakim]

... +44.777.911.aaee, richt, drogersuk, wojtekM

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