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12:04:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
12:04:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM already started
12:04:03 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
12:04:03 <trackbot> Date: 04 June 2010
12:04:31 <mhausenblas> zakim, code?
12:04:31 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), mhausenblas
12:04:37 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
12:05:02 <mhausenblas> Chair: George 
12:05:07 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas 
12:06:17 <Zakim> +Sandro
12:08:20 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/issues/open
12:09:24 <George> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Projects/GLD_Demo
12:11:21 <bhyland> previous minutes, http://www.w3.org/2010/04/30-egov-minutes.html
12:11:38 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Projects/GLD_Demo/Meetings/2010-04-09
12:11:51 <George> Action: George review past meeting minutes and action items for next call review
12:11:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Review past meeting minutes and action items for next call review [on George Thomas - due 2010-06-11].
12:12:56 <mhausenblas> Cory-c: can't see the Web of Data
12:13:07 <mhausenblas> Michael: you can, for example in Tabulator or Sig.ma
12:13:47 <mhausenblas> George: ORA conference showed a lot of good examples
12:14:20 <mhausenblas> q+
12:14:26 <mhausenblas> ack me
12:14:28 <mhausenblas> http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/wiki/Demo:_Comparing_US-USAID_and_UK-DFID_Global_Foreign_Aid
12:14:42 <sandro> q+
12:15:12 <mhausenblas> q?
12:15:53 <mhausenblas> Cory-c: yes, that's the basic stuff is missing
12:16:03 <mhausenblas> Michael: did you check out Sig.ma?
12:16:31 <mhausenblas> ack sandro 
12:16:49 <mhausenblas> sandro: couple of activities, esp. recently
12:16:57 <mhausenblas> ... in the UK, using conneg
12:16:59 <mhausenblas> q+
12:17:09 <mhausenblas> q?
12:17:46 <mhausenblas> sandro: Tabulator is supposed to do this
12:18:19 <mhausenblas> ... compare with Web in its early days
12:18:44 <mhausenblas> George: just want to make sure that we don't only focus on it
12:19:27 <mhausenblas> Cory-c: would make a good demo for gov data
12:21:46 <mhausenblas> Michael: Web of Data is mainly for machines, so generic LOD browsers can only go so fr
12:21:50 <mhausenblas> s/fr/far
12:21:57 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:21:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
12:22:43 <mhausenblas> George: what are than vis issue can/should be addressed?
12:23:34 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Cory to write up requirements/wishlist for generic Web of Data browser
12:23:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Write up requirements/wishlist for generic Web of Data browser [on Cory Casanave - due 2010-06-11].
12:24:50 <mhausenblas> Michael: Cory-c you might want to look at http://tomheath.com/slides/2008-09-graz-humans-and-the-web-of-data.pdf for inspiration
12:26:04 <dwood> There is also http://moustaki.org/swic/
12:26:44 <mhausenblas> Michael: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1439263
12:27:22 <mhausenblas> George: let's do a quick update
12:27:44 <mhausenblas> sandro: have been doing a thousand things, so not sure where to start ;)
12:27:55 <mhausenblas> George: say, bag of chips talk ?
12:28:59 <bhyland> The next gov 2.0 summit in DC, http://www.gov2summit.com/gov2010
12:29:11 <sandro> -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga1aSJXCFe0 Tim Berners-Lee "Bag of Chips" talk
12:30:05 <mhausenblas> Cory-c: will give a talk at SemTech
12:30:34 <bhyland> Dave and I are giving a half day tutorial on linked enterprise data at SemTech on Tuesday 6/22
12:31:06 <bhyland> Cory, let's plan to connect F2F at SemTech please
12:32:59 <Cory-c> bhyland, sure - email me cory-c c at modeldriven dot com
12:33:35 <bhyland> May 2010 Gov 2.0 Expo details at http://www.gov2expo.com/gov2expo2010
12:34:06 <mhausenblas> George: can Sindice process the sitemaps?
12:34:10 <mhausenblas> Michael: yes
12:34:22 <bhyland> Cory, FTR, my name is Bernadette :-)
12:34:27 <mhausenblas> Michael: Li and I are sorting out ATM
12:35:10 <mhausenblas> Michael: is a voiD file planned?
12:35:33 <mhausenblas> George: once the interlinking is done, might be - also dcat
12:35:49 <Cory-c> Session @ semtec: http://semtech2010.semanticuniverse.com/agenda.cfm?confid=42&scheduleDay=06/24/10  - at 11:45 "open atchitectures for open government" - Brand and myself
12:36:47 <mhausenblas> Michael: 1-3 stars in the TimBL plan, use dcat, once RDF-based (4/5 stars), use voiD
12:37:02 <mhausenblas> Michael: for example use the voiD editor ve2, at http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/ve2/
12:37:10 <bhyland> Wilshire did a teaser Intro to Linked Data webcast last month by Dave Wood.  The Q&A session is on http://www.semanticuniverse.com/qa-session-introduction-linked-data-webcast.html
12:38:36 <mhausenblas> Michael: RDFa/void example see http://ontologi.es/rail/void.xhtml
12:41:10 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
12:41:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.441.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, +1.703.880.aacc, mhausenblas, Sandro
12:41:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Cory-c, bhyland, cygri, George, dwood, tlr, mhausenblas, ww, edsu, sandro, trackbot
12:41:24 <mhausenblas> George: any other feedback?
12:41:51 <mhausenblas> dwood: not really, but there are certainly areas worth being explored
12:42:12 <mhausenblas> ... regarding advertising 
12:42:46 <Zakim> -Sandro
12:43:01 <mhausenblas> dwood: also mashups at data.gov, one should use production servers
12:43:10 <Zakim> +Sandro
12:43:12 <mhausenblas> ... (re SIMILE services)
12:43:39 <mhausenblas> George: yes, there was an attempt to do so, but it's not so trivial
12:44:40 <mhausenblas> bhyland: many people involved (were involved) and currently some 15 people coming together (LOC sponsored) and discuss this
12:44:49 <mhausenblas> ... doesn't scale well, etc.
12:45:02 <mhausenblas> dwood: Geore, fancy joining us?
12:45:15 <mhausenblas> George: sure, thanks, happy to drop by
12:45:50 <mhausenblas> dwood: will follow up via mail re this George 
12:46:21 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
12:46:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.441.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, +1.703.880.aacc, mhausenblas, Sandro
12:46:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Cory-c, bhyland, cygri, George, dwood, tlr, mhausenblas, ww, edsu, sandro, trackbot
12:46:26 <bhyland> Dates are June 10-11, 2010 at Library of Congress.
12:46:42 <George> i'm still here
12:47:03 <George> strange - my phone isn't muted
12:47:03 <sandro> zakim, who is muted?
12:47:03 <Zakim> I see no one muted
12:47:26 <dwood> Never trust technology :)
12:47:43 <George> apologies - i'm still on the line - but new bberry is really flaky
12:47:54 <George> i can hear you, and i'm not muted
12:48:10 <mhausenblas> can you try hang up and dial in again, George?
12:48:15 <George> will do 
12:48:19 <Zakim> - +1.202.441.aaaa
12:48:41 <Zakim> + +1.202.441.aadd
12:49:12 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
12:49:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.540.898.aabb, +1.703.880.aacc, mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.202.441.aadd
12:49:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Cory-c, bhyland, cygri, George, dwood, tlr, mhausenblas, ww, edsu, sandro, trackbot
12:49:21 <mhausenblas> aadd is George 
12:49:29 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aadd is George 
12:49:29 <Zakim> +George; got it
12:50:38 <mhausenblas> bhyland: I have a question
12:50:49 <mhausenblas> ... when I went to the recent XXX conference
12:51:08 <mhausenblas> ... are there efforts on the gov side to have best practices?
12:51:10 <mhausenblas> q+
12:52:00 <mhausenblas> Michael: yes, the LATC project ...
12:52:58 <mhausenblas> George: Ed Summers, bunch of folks from HSE, climate change, etc. do
12:53:05 <mhausenblas> q?
12:53:08 <sandro> q+
12:54:01 <mhausenblas> bhyland: esp. re US gov, bay area
12:54:06 <mhausenblas> q?
12:54:29 <mhausenblas> George: both EPA and HSS are involved 
12:54:36 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: W3C eGov Channel
12:54:54 <mhausenblas> ... plan for the next 6 months
12:55:20 <mhausenblas> ack me
12:56:35 <bhyland> Thank you George & Michael
12:56:47 <mhausenblas> ack sandro 
12:58:36 <mhausenblas> George: anything else?
12:58:54 <mhausenblas> [meeting adjourned]
12:58:59 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:58:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
12:59:04 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list attendees
12:59:04 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.202.441.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, +1.703.880.aacc, mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.202.441.aadd, George
12:59:42 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aabb is dwood 
12:59:42 <Zakim> +dwood; got it
12:59:51 <mhausenblas> bhyland is with dwood 
13:00:00 <mhausenblas> Zakim, bhyland is with dwood 
13:00:00 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it
13:00:06 <mhausenblas> zAkim, who' s here?
13:00:06 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, mhausenblas.
13:00:13 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
13:00:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see dwood, +1.703.880.aacc, mhausenblas, Sandro, George
13:00:14 <Zakim> dwood has dwood, bhyland
13:00:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Cory-c, bhyland, cygri, George, dwood, tlr, mhausenblas, ww, edsu, sandro, trackbot
13:00:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aacc is Cory-c 
13:00:26 <Zakim> +Cory-c; got it
13:00:31 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
13:00:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
13:01:00 <mhausenblas> ScribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics
13:01:09 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
13:01:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
13:01:32 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
13:01:33 <Zakim> -Sandro
13:01:35 <Zakim> -Cory-c
13:01:36 <Zakim> -George
13:01:37 <Zakim> -dwood
13:01:37 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD Demo)8:00AM has ended
13:01:39 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.202.441.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, +1.703.880.aacc, mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.202.441.aadd, George, dwood, bhyland, Cory-c
13:01:43 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:01:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
13:02:19 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list attendees
13:02:19 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I don't know what conference this is
13:02:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who was here?
13:02:26 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, mhausenblas.
13:02:34 <mhausenblas> Zakim, bye
13:02:34 <Zakim> Zakim has left #egov
13:02:45 <mhausenblas> see, that happens to bots that don't behave :P
13:03:03 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye
13:03:03 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-egov-actions.rdf :
13:03:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: George review past meeting minutes and action items for next call review [1]
13:03:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-egov-irc#T12-11-51
13:03:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cory to write up requirements/wishlist for generic Web of Data browser [2]
13:03:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/04-egov-irc#T12-23-34