13:46:50 RRSAgent has joined #lld 13:46:50 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-irc 13:47:36 Zakim, this will be INC_LLDXG 13:47:36 ok, mhausenblas; I see INC_LLDXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes 13:47:58 Meeting: W3C Library Linked Data XG 13:48:22 Chair: Antoine and Tom 13:48:28 scribenick: mhausenblas 13:48:49 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0000.html 13:49:06 mhausenblas has changed the topic to: Library Linked Data XG weekly meetings (mhausenblas) 13:49:19 RRSAgent, draft mintues 13:49:19 I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', mhausenblas. Try /msg RRSAgent help 13:49:23 RRSAgent, draft minutes 13:49:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html mhausenblas 13:49:28 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:50:02 emmanuelle_ has joined #lld 13:50:04 regrets+ Herbert vdS 13:52:34 TomB has joined #lld 13:52:53 heya TomB 13:53:32 fumi has joined #lld 13:54:06 edsu has joined #lld 13:55:10 INC_LLDXG()10:00AM has now started 13:55:17 + +1.614.764.aaaa 13:55:37 jodi has joined #lld 13:55:54 02Zakim, who is on the phone?01 13:56:21 fsasaki has joined #lld 13:56:31 + +5379aabb 13:56:33 + +1.856.528.aacc 13:56:40 + +1.614.764.aadd 13:56:54 +[IPcaller] 13:57:07 +[IPcaller.a] 13:57:39 + +3539149aaee 13:57:41 zakim, IPcaller.a is stu 13:57:41 +stu; got it 13:57:46 02Zakim, [011.614.764.aaaa] is really me 13:57:48 Zakim, aaee is me 13:57:48 +mhausenblas; got it 13:57:49 +[IPcaller] 13:57:57 antoine has joined #lld 13:58:05 + +1.423.475.aaff 13:58:24 kai has joined #lld 13:58:57 zakim, who is on the call? 13:59:07 On the phone I see Felix (muted), +1.423.475.aaff, +1.614.764.aaaa, +5379aabb, +1.856.528.aacc, +1.614.764.aadd, TomB?, stu, mhausenblas 13:59:18 Zakim, aacc is me 13:59:26 kovacs has joined #lld 13:59:28 Zakim, aadd is michaelp 13:59:32 +jodi; got it 13:59:38 +??P27 13:59:46 +michaelp; got it 13:59:54 +??P28 13:59:55 zakim, ??P27 is antoine 13:59:58 zakim, +5379aabb is me 13:59:59 zakim, ??p27 is me 14:00:10 +antoine; got it 14:00:14 +emmanuelle_; got it 14:00:14 zakim, who is on the call? 14:00:18 I already had ??P27 as antoine, kai 14:00:25 oops 14:00:35 oreste on the call 14:00:35 zakim, who is on the phone 14:00:37 Zakim, aaaa is me 14:00:39 On the phone I see Felix (muted), +1.423.475.aaff, antoine, ??P28, +1.614.764.aaaa, emmanuelle_, jodi, michaelp, TomB?, stu, mhausenblas 14:00:44 + +81.35.937.aagg 14:00:48 +Oreste 14:00:48 zakim, ??p28 is me 14:00:50 +[LC] 14:00:52 +Jonathan_Rees 14:00:52 zakim, LC is edsu 14:00:52 rsinger has joined #lld 14:00:56 jar has joined #lld 14:01:01 +[LC.a] 14:01:03 zakim, ??P28 is kai 14:01:07 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', kai 14:01:15 +jeff; got it 14:01:17 i2k has joined #lld 14:01:19 zakim, LC.a is ray 14:01:27 + +049173609aahh 14:01:28 zakim, who is on the call? 14:01:29 +kai; got it 14:01:37 +edsu; got it 14:01:45 I already had ??P28 as kai, TomB 14:01:56 I have problem to connect 14:01:57 +ray; got it 14:02:14 On the phone I see Felix (muted), +1.423.475.aaff, antoine, kai, +81.35.937.aagg, Oreste, Jonathan_Rees, edsu, ray, +049173609aahh, jeff, emmanuelle_, jodi, michaelp, TomB?, stu, 14:02:17 ... mhausenblas 14:02:19 + +0203006aaii 14:02:21 +jeff.a 14:02:45 + +1.330.655.aajj 14:02:49 + +49.238.aakk 14:02:51 zakim, aaii is Marcia 14:02:57 + +1.361.279.aall 14:02:59 +Marcia; got it 14:02:59 hi zakim, aahh is pobably me 14:03:21 the aaff is me 14:03:32 nico has joined #lld 14:04:22 -jodi 14:04:22 - +1.361.279.aall 14:04:25 + +97148aamm 14:04:30 Zakim, jodi is with mhausenblas 14:04:30 +jodi; got it 14:04:41 zakim, mute me 14:04:41 sorry, jar, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 14:04:50 zakim, who's here 14:04:50 nico, you need to end that query with '?' 14:04:55 zakim, who's here? 14:04:55 On the phone I see Felix (muted), +1.423.475.aaff, antoine, kai, fumi? (muted), Oreste, Jonathan_Rees, edsu, ray, +049173609aahh, Marcia, jeff.a, +1.330.655.aajj, +49.238.aakk, 14:04:59 ... +97148aamm, jeff, emmanuelle_, michaelp, TomB?, stu, mhausenblas 14:05:00 zakim, jar is Jonathan_Rees 14:05:01 mhausenblas has mhausenblas, jodi 14:05:03 On IRC I see nico, i2k, jar, rsinger, kovacs, kai, antoine, fsasaki, jodi, edsu, fumi, TomB, emmanuelle_, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeff, mhausenblas, michaelp, matolat, oreste, stu, domel, 14:05:06 ... jneubert 14:05:08 sorry, jar, I do not recognize a party named 'jar' 14:05:22 Topic: Admin 14:05:34 zakim, +49.238.aakk is me 14:05:34 +nico; got it 14:05:36 + +0361279aann 14:05:59 zakim, mute Jonathan_Rees 14:06:14 Jonathan_Rees should now be muted 14:06:25 antoine: do you happen to have a bird, i just heard a familiar sound from the swd telecons :-) 14:06:41 RRSAgent, draft minutes 14:06:41 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html mhausenblas 14:06:42 :-) 14:07:42 Andras has joined #lld 14:07:52 antoine: hello everyone - everyone got invitation? 14:07:56 FabGandon has joined #lld 14:07:58 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0000.html 14:08:38 +??P53 14:09:12 antoine: scribe duty will revolve, see http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Scribes and http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/Scribing.html 14:09:52 antoine: the logs are public 14:09:57 sorry, I think that's http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/ScribeDuty 14:09:58 When I dial the number I hear busy signal? Could you tell me how to connect to conference? 14:10:10 ... for today, for example, see http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html 14:10:39 when? 14:10:50 Zakim, +1.423.475.aaff is rsinger 14:10:50 +rsinger; got it 14:11:07 after I dial phone number? 14:12:06 TomB: explain mailing list and Wiki, then roll call 14:12:25 mhausenblas: nothing, I hear the same signal 14:13:59 I use a SIP phone. Maybe this is the reason? 14:14:25 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/ 14:14:49 antoine: only use public-xg-lld@w3.org 14:15:01 perhaps on the website the preferred list could be made more explicit, for the sake of us with limited stack space ;-) 14:15:09 stu++ 14:15:12 +1 stu 14:15:32 q+ to comment on public-xg-lld 14:15:39 antoine++ 14:15:58 ACTION: Antoine to clean up mailing list on http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/ 14:16:21 q? 14:16:54 +??P56 14:16:58 I try but it is broken 14:17:19 -Marcia 14:17:26 q? 14:17:36 zakin, ack TomB 14:17:44 zakim, ack TomB 14:17:44 TomB, you wanted to comment on public-xg-lld 14:17:46 I see no one on the speaker queue 14:17:57 +??P13 14:18:08 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0000.html 14:18:11 agenda was sent on 2 June 14:18:25 I dial 0 00 44 117 370 6152 55394# (0 00 need my provider) 14:18:38 ray has joined #lld 14:18:46 ray? 14:18:46 bvatant_ has joined #lld 14:18:47 marcia has joined #lld 14:18:54 see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jun/0000.html for agenda 14:19:12 zakim, who's making noise? 14:19:14 zakim, who is making noise? 14:19:23 mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: TomB? (10%), +97148aamm (4%), ??P56 (60%) 14:19:26 - +97148aamm 14:19:35 TomB, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: TomB? (28%), antoine (4%), ??P56 (5%) 14:20:03 + +97148aaoo 14:20:11 zakim, mute ??P56 14:20:11 ??P56 should now be muted 14:20:20 marcia has joined #lld 14:20:31 matthew has joined #lld 14:21:45 antoine: ok, time to move on 14:22:07 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/ 14:22:30 zakim 128.30.52.28 IS ME 14:23:23 zakim, aahh is me 14:23:23 +jneubert; got it 14:23:32 RRSAgent, draft minutes 14:23:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html mhausenblas 14:23:59 antoine: any questions re the mailing lists? 14:24:02 marcia has joined #lld 14:24:11 ... seems not the case, so move on to roll call 14:24:20 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Main_Page 14:24:33 Zakim, +0361279aann has kovacs, Andras 14:24:33 +kovacs, Andras; got it 14:24:36 s/roll call/Wiki 14:24:42 RRSAgent, draft minutes 14:24:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html mhausenblas 14:25:16 antoine: every LLD XG member should be able to edit the Wiki 14:25:19 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/LLD 14:25:39 this second Wiki is open to the wider community 14:25:58 s/this second/antoine: this second 14:26:22 antoine: if no questions then we do the roll call 14:26:29 http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=44833&public=1 14:26:54 antoine: please confirm if you around and introduce you with one or two sentences 14:27:18 ... and send an introduction to the list (public-xg-lld@w3.org) 14:28:22 TomB: I'm Tom, one of the 3 co-chairs of this XG, Dublin Core big boss and SWD WG chair 14:28:39 s/and SWD/and former SWD 14:28:39 danbri has joined #lld 14:30:06 Emmanuelle: I'm also a co-chair of the XG , work at the France Library 14:31:05 Nicolas: from INRIA/Edelweiss group 14:31:23 Ray: LOC, AC Rep 14:31:41 Alexander Haffner seems not to be around 14:32:01 bravo 14:32:04 :-) 14:32:16 mhausenblas: in one word "linkeddata" 14:32:16 Wolfgang Halb seems not to be around 14:32:28 Andrew Houghton seems not to be around 14:32:39 Renato Iannella not here (?) 14:32:58 the audio quality from antoine makes it hard to understand him and who he is calling on 14:33:15 Antoine: work in VU and also co-chair this XG 14:33:48 antoine: work on SKOS, now also with Europeana 14:34:26 Fumihiro Kato: National Institute of Informatics in Japan 14:34:47 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html fsasaki 14:34:49 Laszlo Kovacs: Budapest, head of MTA SZTAKI and AC Rep 14:35:27 Laszlo Kovacs is head of MTA SZTAKI DSD 14:35:31 Dickson Lukose from MIMOS BHD 14:35:34 (what great group of people :) 14:35:44 Todd Matola: from OCLC 14:35:53 Carlo Meghini not here 14:36:07 danbri++ 14:36:16 zakim, unmute ??P56 14:36:16 ??P56 should no longer be muted 14:37:19 AndrĂ¡s Micsik: from MTA SZTAKI, work with Lazslo 14:37:38 Guenther Neher not here 14:38:09 Joachim Neubert: from Germany, published a thesaurus already in linked data 14:38:31 Ikki Ohmuka: from NII/Japan 14:38:56 Michael Panzer: OCLC, DDC editor 14:39:06 zakim, unmute Jonathan_Rees 14:39:06 Jonathan_Rees should no longer be muted 14:39:10 Jon Phipps not here 14:39:34 Jonathan Rees: creative commons, TAG member 14:40:10 zakim, mute Jonathan_Rees 14:40:10 Jonathan_Rees should now be muted 14:40:21 Felix Sasaki: Uni Potsdam, special interest in multilingual apps 14:40:58 Jodi Schneider: librarian in the US, now at DERI 14:41:07 I'm Oreste Signore (http://www.weblab.isti.cnr.it/people/oreste/), from CNR (National Research Council) of Italy,at ISTI, located in Pisa. Presently Manager of W3C Italy and AC for CNR. I worked in the area of cultural heritage (national catalogue standard), and pilot project with Getty originating the TGN (Thesaurus of Geographic Names) and my interests are now in the Semantic Web area(mostly app 14:41:09 lications) and Web accessibility. In the past, my group implemented a tailorable Z39.50 target (ARCA EU project) and participated in Aquarelle (EU, cultural heritage) project. 14:41:11 antoine, quick question: do i need to join the group explicitly, or just VU (who has already joined) 14:41:32 you have to ask Frank to nominate you 14:41:39 Felix: also manager of German-Austrian W3C office, btw 14:42:02 i can't see the individual joining link in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/ (if there is one) 14:42:17 Ross Singer: work at Talis, UK 14:42:35 danbri, http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/44833/instructions 14:43:01 Ed Summers: work with Ray at LoC, also SWD WG and many other related things 14:43:10 Hideaki Takeda not here 14:43:19 Herbert Van De Sompel sent regrets 14:44:01 Bernard Vatant: from Mondeca, France, industry background, worked on SKOS, also National French Lib 14:44:08 I am from the 'UNreal' part of OCLC (research) and am working with colleagues at OCLC to use Linked Data for both enterprise and public-facing data on behalf of the OCLC membership 14:45:05 Jeff Young: also OCLC, try to re-conceptualise our APIs re Linked Data 14:45:37 danbri++ 14:46:30 Marcia Zeng: Prof at XXX University, knowledge org systems, also ISO member, FBRB group member, co-chair DC profile group 14:46:48 Kent State 14:46:55 tx michaelp 14:47:02 s/XXX/Kent State 14:47:08 Mohamed ZERGAOUI not here 14:47:13 RRSAgent, draft minutes 14:47:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html mhausenblas 14:48:07 Mathew, a new member (?) shows up 14:48:34 I am also as guest here, maybe we can just introduce us in IRC so everyone can read it 14:48:38 Matthew Dovey, JISC, guest 14:48:41 Topic: Charter, scope, goals and deliverables 14:48:59 please do, kai and others 14:49:26 TomB: quickly walk through our goals 14:49:32 Kai Eckert, responsible for the linked data activities of the university library of Mannheim, Germany 14:49:58 TomB: need to discuss now what are we after before the summer break 14:50:01 guest - Matthew Dovey (SRW/SRU/Oasis Search Web Service so a personal interest; also I work for JISC where we are funding various linked data and library innovation projects so we may have use cases) 14:50:30 TomB: scope is Linked Data, see http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html 14:50:54 (TomB explains the 4 LD principles) 14:51:24 Collaboration with ZBW and DNB (KIM), research projects with Heiner Stuckenschmidt, especially interested in the representation and integratiojn of automatic indexing results as linked data 14:51:24 TomB: re charter, see http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/charter 14:52:59 TomB: we want to gather use cases, foster collaboration, identify data models and figure if/what needs to be standardised wrt LD and Libraries 14:53:46 TomB: we're neutral re the follow-up activities 14:54:27 ... what we don't want is into particular vocabs or datasets 14:54:37 s/into/go into detail 14:55:03 TomB: re deliverables we want to produce a report re use cases and future activities 14:55:19 sorry to have to leave early (maybe can join in again later) - bye 14:56:09 TomB: everyone, please have a look at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics and contribute 14:56:37 ... assign names to topics, kick-off task forces 14:57:38 TomB: we need YOUR contribution and input to organise this, take over responsibilities etc. 14:58:12 Topic: June telecons 14:58:26 three more in June, then some of us meet at LoC 14:58:30 there's a meeting at the library of congress? :-) 14:58:41 Topic: Summer telecon schedule 14:58:44 more details on that meeting would be appreciated 14:58:52 +1 14:58:54 stu++ 14:58:58 http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/alcts/confevents/upcoming/ala/ac10/linked.cfm 14:59:05 jonphipps has joined #lld 14:59:06 TomB: go to http://www.doodle.com/hvwb4fe4x2kdq3cy and flag your availability for summer 14:59:16 RRSAgent, draft minutes 14:59:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html mhausenblas 14:59:45 TomB: any process-related questions 15:00:15 ... next week, same time and same place, at least 24h before call the agenda will be sent out 15:01:02 [meeting adjourned] 15:01:16 -mhausenblas 15:01:18 -jeff 15:01:18 TomB: can you hang on the call for a moment? 15:01:22 -Jonathan_Rees 15:01:24 -Oreste 15:01:28 -ray 15:01:28 bye 15:01:30 -stu 15:01:32 -jeff.a 15:01:36 - +0361279aann 15:01:36 zakim, bye 15:01:38 -??P13 15:01:40 - +1.330.655.aajj 15:01:42 - +97148aaoo 15:01:42 michaelp has left #lld 15:01:44 Zakim, list attendees 15:01:46 -michaelp 15:01:48 -fumi? 15:01:50 -rsinger 15:01:54 -Felix 15:01:56 -jneubert 15:01:58 -nico 15:02:02 leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.614.764.aaaa, +1.856.528.aacc, +1.614.764.aadd, TomB?, +3539149aaee, stu, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], Felix, jodi, michaelp, antoine, 15:02:05 Zakim has left #lld 15:02:11 ... emmanuelle_, +81.35.937.aagg, Oreste, Jonathan_Rees, jeff, +049173609aahh, kai, edsu, ray, +0203006aaii, fumi?, +1.330.655.aajj, +1.361.279.aall, Marcia, +97148aamm, nico, 15:02:14 ... rsinger, +97148aaoo, jneubert, kovacs, Andras 15:02:15 bye 15:02:16 sorry, mhausenblas, I don't know what conference this is 15:02:18 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:02:18 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-minutes.html mhausenblas 15:02:36 kovacs has left #lld 15:02:39 fumi has left #lld 15:03:00 mhausenblas, thank you very much 15:03:18 matthew_ has joined #lld 15:03:42 jodi has joined #lld 15:04:10 are you planning to clean the minutes? 15:04:20 I'd feel quite guilty after the impressive job... 15:04:30 no worries 15:04:32 ... that you did in that call 15:04:42 no problem.happy to help 15:04:55 huge thanks! 15:05:40 jodi has left #lld 15:06:03 Zakim, bye 15:06:10 RRSAgent, bye 15:06:10 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-actions.rdf : 15:06:10 ACTION: Antoine to clean up mailing list on http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/ [1] 15:06:10 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-lld-irc#T14-15-58 15:06:13 ... have a nice next meeting ;-)