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15:57:32 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
15:57:33 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:57:33 <trackbot> Date: 01 June 2010
15:57:44 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010May/0123.html
15:57:49 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
15:58:03 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Marcelo
15:58:16 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Boris
15:58:26 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:58:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:58:32 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
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15:59:34 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
15:59:40 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
15:59:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, mhausenblas
15:59:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Ahmed, hhalpin, Zakim, lima, RRSAgent, juansequeda, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
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16:00:42 <Zakim> +souri
16:00:52 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:00:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], juansequeda, boris, souri
16:00:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see Seema, Souri, Ahmed, hhalpin, Zakim, lima, RRSAgent, juansequeda, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:00:59 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's making noise?
16:01:10 <Zakim> mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (4%), juansequeda (24%)
16:01:20 <Zakim> +seema
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16:02:05 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:02:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], juansequeda, boris, souri, seema
16:02:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see Ashok, alex, Seema, Souri, Ahmed, hhalpin, Zakim, lima, RRSAgent, juansequeda, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:02:36 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
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16:02:50 <lima> Li Ma is using skype for the meeting. IPcaller is Li Ma
16:03:06 <mhausenblas> scribenick: juansequeda 
16:03:22 <mhausenblas> Zakim, IPcaller is lima 
16:03:22 <Zakim> +lima; got it
16:03:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:03:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, mhausenblas, lima, juansequeda, boris, souri, seema, Ashok_Malhotra
16:03:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see nunolopes, Ashok, alex, Seema, Souri, Ahmed, hhalpin, Zakim, lima, RRSAgent, juansequeda, LeeF, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:03:56 <nunolopes> Zakim, nunolopes is with mhausenblas
16:03:56 <Zakim> +nunolopes; got it
16:04:34 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ??P6 is Ahmed 
16:04:34 <Zakim> +Ahmed; got it
16:04:51 <juansequeda> TOPIC: Admin
16:05:05 <juansequeda> PROPOSAL: accept meetings from last meeting
16:05:19 <juansequeda> http://www.w3.org/2010/05/25-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
16:05:35 <juansequeda> +1
16:05:45 <juansequeda> RESOLUTION: Meetings from last time are accepted
16:05:56 <juansequeda> TOPIC: FPWD of Use Case Document
16:06:00 <juansequeda> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/use-cases/
16:06:29 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:06:37 <mhausenblas> Ahmed's http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Ahmed%27s_UCR_Review
16:06:40 <juansequeda> We are going to go through Ahmed's comments: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Ahmed's_UCR_Review
16:07:22 <juansequeda> The first two sections of ahmed's comments (motivation and use cases) are fine.
16:07:23 <Zakim> +Dan
16:07:32 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:07:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:07:41 <juansequeda> We will continue on Section 3: Requirement Section
16:08:05 <juansequeda> Ahmed: I think functional req can be done better, but this is a draft
16:08:23 <juansequeda> ... there is nothing in the use cases about mapping data types
16:08:36 <juansequeda> .. this should be part of the requirements
16:08:53 <juansequeda> mhausenblas: the req of the data types are there but don
16:08:53 <juansequeda> '
16:09:00 <juansequeda> but don't show up in the use cases?
16:09:18 <juansequeda> Ahmed: there are req that are not in the use cases at all, but need to be in the req (i.e. data types)
16:09:33 <juansequeda> ... how are we going to support vendor specific datatypes.
16:09:41 <juansequeda> ... this is not in the use cases, but it needs to be in the req
16:09:50 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
16:09:50 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
16:09:52 <Zakim> +EricP
16:10:16 <juansequeda> mhausenblas: are you proposing a new requirement?
16:10:35 <juansequeda> Ahmed: if I understand microparsing, I would call it Custom Mapping to Unique Database Vendor Specific Data Types
16:10:41 <juansequeda> .. but I'm not sure
16:10:46 <juansequeda> Ashok: I think it is a different thing.
16:10:53 <juansequeda> Ahmed: I really don't know what it is
16:11:13 <juansequeda> Ashok: should we add a req that supports vendor specific datatype?
16:11:16 <juansequeda> Ahmed: Yes
16:11:27 <juansequeda> Ashok: lets ask the group
16:11:37 <juansequeda> PROPOSAL: add a core req, Vendor Specific Datatypes
16:12:26 <juansequeda> orri: It is difficult because everybody has their own
16:13:24 <juansequeda> orri describes different datatypes from different vendors
16:13:35 <juansequeda> mhausenblas: orri, could you write text about this req?
16:13:37 <juansequeda> orri: yes
16:14:16 <juansequeda> Ashok: do we need this as a core requirement or should we think about allowing extensibility within the mapping language
16:14:27 <juansequeda> ... and then doing the vendor specific datatype supports through that
16:14:34 <juansequeda> ... through an extensibility mechanisim?
16:15:25 <juansequeda> mhausenblas: this makes sense, but then the extensibility should be a core requirement and we could do the vendor specific datatype support through this req
16:15:43 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: R2RML MUST provide an extensibility mechanisim to allow for Database Vendor Specific Data Types mapping
16:16:09 <juansequeda> +1
16:16:09 <Souri> +1
16:16:10 <alex> +1
16:16:16 <lima> +1