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13:49:55 <Tim> Zakim, this is scidisc
13:50:07 <Tim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:50:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/31-hcls2-minutes.html Tim
13:50:19 <Tim> RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
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14:04:35 <Tim> Notes start here
14:04:42 <Tim> On call: Tudor, Howard, Matthias, Paolo, Tim
14:04:55 <Tim> + David Newman
14:05:36 <Tim> three major threads
14:05:56 <Tim> Citation
14:06:14 <Tim> Rhetorical Documents
14:06:36 <Tim> SWAN + myExperiment  MO
14:06:53 <Tim> RD intraoduced AO ontology
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14:08:14 <paolociccarese> http://code.google.com/p/annotation-ontology/wiki/Homepage
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14:10:48 <matthias_samwald> zakim, who is talking?
14:10:48 <Zakim> sorry, matthias_samwald, I don't know what conference this is
14:10:54 <matthias_samwald> zakim, this is hcls
14:10:54 <Zakim> ok, matthias_samwald; that matches SW_HCLS(Disc)10:00AM
14:10:58 <matthias_samwald> zakim, who is talking?
14:11:00 <Tim> AO baed on Annotea
14:11:11 <Zakim> matthias_samwald, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +03539149aabb (13%), [IPcaller.a] (71%)
14:11:21 <Tim> Paolo is talking - discussing AO
14:12:42 <matthias_samwald> (tim, +03539149 seems to be causing the echo, maybe you want to remind people of muting their phones)
14:12:49 <Tim> okay
14:13:02 <Tim> who is corresponding to that ID?
14:15:33 <Tim> Citations: D Shotton + Paolo  - CiTO  SWAN.Citation aligned, just doing the PRISM alignment
14:15:42 <Tim> waiting for feddback on PRISM
14:15:49 <Tim> need to formallize on wiki
14:19:43 <Tim> SWAN + myExperiment need to reference BioCatalog
14:23:56 <Tim> papers associate to data  semantics
14:24:03 <Tim> proposed use case
14:24:06 <Tim> David N:
14:24:17 <Tim> this ties into work at Manchester  Southampton
14:25:03 <Tim> Tudor - natural step we should look into
14:25:13 <Tim> not really aligned with what I do but natural step
14:26:01 <Tim> Matthias - sounds interesting - more details wouldn't hurt
14:26:28 <Tim> MS: such proposals abound but what would be innovative wold be something that works in practice
14:27:00 <Tim> why havent' we got something to work yet?
14:27:20 <Tim> MS: with many of these approaches we get stuck in nitty -gritty of aligning ontologies
14:27:37 <Tim> MS: I would like to see simple systems to demonstrate to the researchers
14:27:40 <Tim> David N:
14:28:29 <Tim> bit similar to Open Access ten years ago - people not keen on making data directly available in case they get re-used in a way they don't like - but others I have spoken to sya they wouldn't mind
14:30:18 <Tim> David N: research objects  - some actual published papers I can link from the wiki
14:30:44 <Tim> David - too many people trying to solve the problem
14:31:06 <Tim> David - I know several people who are trying to solve something quite similar
14:31:18 <Tim> scoping is difficult
14:33:09 <Tim> David - graceful degradation of understanding
14:35:33 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
14:35:34 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
14:35:34 <Zakim> - +0238058aacc
14:35:36 <Zakim> - +03539149aabb
14:35:37 <Zakim> - +1.603.868.aaaa
14:35:39 <Zakim> -??P3
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14:35:41 <Zakim> Attendees were [IPcaller], +1.603.868.aaaa, +03539149aabb, +0238058aacc
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