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16:36:19 <r12a> meeting: i18n telecon
16:36:26 <r12a> chair: richard
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16:37:54 <r12a> ACTION: david: propose clarification text for HTML5 date-local section DONE
16:38:29 <r12a> Topic: Info Share
16:38:53 <r12a> norbert: today is the last day for Unicode Conf abstract submission
16:42:14 <r12a> richard: next week partners in multilingualweb EC project meeting in Bucharest
16:43:23 <r12a> richard: some tests already integrated into CSS test suite
16:44:34 <r12a> Topic: Bidi note progress
16:47:03 <r12a> hoping for finalisation of issues around the time of the bidi meet up
16:47:41 <r12a> Mati: we should send a reminder to the HTML5 folks that this meeting will take place - the more people we have there the better
16:47:58 <r12a> ACTION: Richard to send email to HTML5 about bidi meeting
16:50:27 <r12a> Mati: there's a lot of interesting discussion going on on the public-iri@w3.org list about bidi IRI/IDNs
16:50:33 <r12a> ... we should take a look
16:50:51 <r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-iri/
16:52:02 <r12a> ... when people write or read bidi/rtl IRIs there are different opinions about how it should be displayed 
16:52:33 <r12a> ... some say just use Bidi Algorithm - this leads to possible confusion because different logical orderings may lead to the same display
16:52:59 <r12a> ... so if you see the URI on a napkin, you don't know how to type into an address bar
16:53:14 <r12a> ... so people are presenting different options for normalisation
16:53:53 <r12a> ... basically suggestion that the parts are always laid out label by label in a uniform direction and within the label, bidi algorithm used
16:54:37 <r12a> ... may use control characters, or special duplicates of punctuation for this purpose, ie. special dot and special @ with unique bidi properties
16:54:55 <r12a> ... to create predictabel and udnesrtandable outcome
16:55:32 <r12a> ... there are strong differences of opinion about the best approach, worries about spoofing, changes on the user or server side, how to expect the transition to work, etc.
16:55:55 <r12a> ... it's quite obvious that there's no ideal solution, so different proposals expressed
16:56:25 <r12a> ... nothing decided yet - in order to decide we need agreement from a large number of bodies, such as browser implementers, standards orgs, et
16:56:49 <r12a> ... there have been a lot of interventions - it was started by Mark Davis, Google
16:58:18 <r12a> Topic: AOB
16:58:29 <r12a> David: probable regrets for next few weeks
16:59:40 <Zakim> -Mati
16:59:41 <Zakim> -Andrew
16:59:42 <Zakim> -Felix
16:59:43 <r12a> meeting adjourned
16:59:44 <Zakim> -Norbert
16:59:49 <Zakim> -Richard
16:59:51 <Zakim> -David
16:59:53 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has ended
16:59:55 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.252.255.aaaa, Richard, David, Felix, Andrew, Mati, Norbert
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