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15:55:37 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:55:37 <trackbot> Date: 18 May 2010
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15:56:59 <mhausenblas> hhalpin, that is the funny thing - I didn't receive any error message
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15:57:28 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
15:57:37 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
15:57:37 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
15:57:40 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:57:40 <Zakim> sorry, MacTed, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
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15:57:59 <mhausenblas> MacTed, can you scribe, please?
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15:58:12 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
15:58:17 <MacTed> mhausenblas - I may be worse than no scribe.  a personal failing.
15:58:45 <mhausenblas> oh, I thought you could help us improving the minutes quality ;)
15:58:51 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
15:58:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed, mhausenblas
15:58:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see whalb, boris, Seema, Zakim, RRSAgent, hhalpin, MacTed, mhausenblas, nunolopes, LeeF, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
15:59:50 <boris> Hi all
15:59:56 <Zakim> +whalb
15:59:58 <mhausenblas> hi boris
16:00:07 <Zakim> +boris
16:00:23 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:00:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed, mhausenblas, whalb, boris
16:00:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see whalb, boris, Seema, Zakim, RRSAgent, hhalpin, MacTed, mhausenblas, nunolopes, LeeF, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:00:39 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010May/0062.html
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16:00:57 <mhausenblas> thanks a lot, hhalpin for forwarding the agenda
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16:01:12 <Zakim> +juansequeda; got it
16:01:12 <hhalpin> Zakim, ??P19 is hhalpin
16:01:14 <Zakim> +hhalpin; got it
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16:01:29 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:01:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed, mhausenblas, whalb, boris, seema, juansequeda, hhalpin
16:01:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see alexander, Ashok, Souri, juansequeda, whalb, boris, Seema, Zakim, RRSAgent, hhalpin, MacTed, mhausenblas, nunolopes, LeeF, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:01:43 <Zakim> +souri
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16:02:05 <Souri> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed, mhausenblas, whalb, boris, seema, juansequeda, hhalpin, souri
16:02:08 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, nunolopes
16:02:14 <mhausenblas> Chair: Ahmed
16:02:25 <hhalpin> I'll scribe!
16:02:37 <Zakim> +??P29
16:02:39 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
16:02:41 <mhausenblas> scribenick: hhalpin 
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16:02:56 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:02:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed, mhausenblas, whalb, boris, seema, juansequeda, hhalpin, souri, ??P29, Ashok_Malhotra
16:02:58 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, nunolopes
16:03:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see alexander, Ashok, Souri, juansequeda, whalb, boris, Seema, Zakim, RRSAgent, hhalpin, MacTed, mhausenblas, nunolopes, LeeF, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
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16:03:57 <hhalpin> notes there was a spam attack
16:04:22 <hhalpin> ok, let's go!
16:04:55 <hhalpin> topic: Admin 
16:05:09 <hhalpin> http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
16:05:16 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of the 11 May 2010 telecon,
16:05:20 <mhausenblas> +1
16:05:26 <hhalpin> +1
16:05:34 <hhalpin> ACCEPTED: Minutes from the 11th May 2010 telecon
16:05:49 <hhalpin> topic: Introduction of new members
16:06:01 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:06:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:06:16 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make records public
16:06:43 <hhalpin> Ahmed: We will discuss the use-cases more today
16:06:58 <hhalpin> Ahmed: and make sure we all agree before publication
16:07:17 <hhalpin> Ahmed: Let's introduce the new people!
16:07:32 <hhalpin> Alexander: Alexander DeLeon, working at Technical University of Madrid
16:07:46 <hhalpin> ... worked with peer to peer reasoning, description logic, linked data
16:07:57 <hhalpin> Ahmed: Welcome aboard!
16:08:18 <hhalpin> Boris: Also working at ontology engineering group at Polytechnic University Madrid
16:08:27 <hhalpin> ... developed mappings between databases and ontology in past work
16:08:57 <hhalpin> topic: face-to-face SemTech 2010
16:09:18 <hhalpin> maybe I'm muted!
16:09:29 <hhalpin> but yes 6 weeks in advance
16:09:56 <hhalpin> its OK if we miss it by a week...
16:10:06 <hhalpin> ericP and Ivan will be at Semtech, same with me likely.
16:10:18 <hhalpin> Orri: I will be there
16:10:24 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I will be there.
16:10:33 <hhalpin> Juan: Dan and I will be there.
16:10:58 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL: Fix face-to-face dates at Semtech 2010.
16:11:07 <hhalpin> +1
16:11:22 <hhalpin> Juan: We discussed earlier one day before one day after.
16:11:36 <hhalpin> ... i.e. one day before and one day after.
16:12:11 <hhalpin> ACTION: mhausenblas will send out the exact date (perhaps the day before and/or after) with a proposed concrete date to the list
16:12:11 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - mhausenblas
16:12:24 <hhalpin> ACTION: mhausenb will send out the exact date (perhaps the day before and/or after) with a proposed concrete date to the list
16:12:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-55 - Will send out the exact date (perhaps the day before and/or after) with a proposed concrete date to the list [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-05-25].
16:12:45 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I think it was the day before
16:13:03 <hhalpin> Yes, RDF Next Steps is the week afterwards.
16:13:06 <Ashok> SemTech: http://semtech2010.semanticuniverse.com/
16:13:51 <Zakim> -??P33
16:14:02 <hhalpin> ACTION: mhausenblas to create a wikipage for face-to-face
16:14:02 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - mhausenblas
16:14:09 <hhalpin> ACTION: mhausenb to create a wikipage for face-to-face
16:14:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-56 - Create a wikipage for face-to-face [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-05-25].
16:14:16 <hhalpin> topic: Use-case document
16:14:18 <Zakim> +??P3
16:14:20 <hhalpin> Ahmed: Have people had a chance to read it?
16:14:35 <hhalpin> +1, ahve read it.
16:15:03 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I have spent a lot of time reading it
16:15:03 <Ashok> q+
16:15:12 <hhalpin> ... there is a lot of terminology I am uncomfortable with.
16:15:22 <mhausenblas> ack Ashok 
16:15:36 <hhalpin> Ashok: I had another look at it. 
16:15:45 <hhalpin> ... its a few small things
16:15:55 <hhalpin> ... the one big item
16:16:09 <hhalpin> ... I would have liked to have the requirements to come from the use-cases
16:16:24 <hhalpin> ... reading it, requirements and use-cases are separate
16:16:28 <hhalpin> ... no visible connections.
16:16:49 <hhalpin> ... I would like to see those links.
16:16:56 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I agree with Ashok on this.
16:17:03 <hhalpin> ... there is a lot of terminology
16:17:09 <hhalpin> ... things like micro-parsing that I am not sure what it means
16:17:15 <hhalpin> ... very confusing statement
16:17:35 <hhalpin> ... but if I can't understand it, then what about outside world?
16:17:41 <hhalpin> ... mapping to outside data-types?
16:17:50 <hhalpin> I'm going to note there was going to be an action to make a glossary
16:18:00 <hhalpin> but it appears EricP went on vacation a bit too quickly without making glossary
16:18:05 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:18:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:18:18 <Ashok> yes. glossary is incomplete
16:18:20 <mhausenblas> hhalpin, the glossary is there
16:18:24 <mhausenblas> right
16:18:31 <mhausenblas> just a placeholder ATM
16:18:44 <hhalpin> maybe Ahmed could send an e-mail out with the vocabulary items he wants explained?
16:19:08 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum
16:19:20 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I'd like to send you an e-mail
16:19:35 <hhalpin> ... to make sure we can work through the rest of reservations
16:19:42 <hhalpin> ... we should really work through these
16:19:56 <hhalpin> ... once people publish it, if people don't understand it, it's a problem.
16:20:08 <mhausenblas> q?
16:20:43 <hhalpin> Ashok: Ahmed, it would look better with more explanation
16:20:48 <hhalpin> ... lots of small things like that.
16:20:55 <hhalpin> ... the question is how to improve it
16:20:59 <hhalpin> Michael is an editor!
16:21:04 <MacTed> ericP - are you out there?
16:21:14 <mhausenblas> no, ericP is on holiday
16:21:18 <hhalpin> Notes that you need to send exact changes in text.
16:21:18 <MacTed> ah.
16:21:25 <MacTed> forgot that.
16:21:32 <hhalpin> Why not e-mail a list of changes to the list-serv
16:22:08 <hhalpin> Zakim, unmute me
16:22:08 <Zakim> hhalpin was not muted, hhalpin
16:22:17 <hhalpin> Basically, we need to fix it up this week
16:22:23 <hhalpin> its supposed to be published next Tuesday
16:22:29 <MacTed> refresh URL?
16:23:03 <hhalpin> michael: within the cell there is structure
16:23:16 <hhalpin> ... and I want to define something that maps that to RDF
16:24:07 <hhalpin> Ashok: its a mapping from a value
16:24:25 <hhalpin> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/use-cases/
16:24:33 <hhalpin> Souri, latest URI above (it should always be the same)
16:24:42 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I just don't understand this
16:25:06 <hhalpin> Ashok: this requirement and the following one should have some further explanation
16:26:29 <LeeF> WGs are supposed to publish a draft every *3* months, I believe. (heartbeat requirement)
16:27:04 <Ashok> Yes, the date is old :-)
16:27:30 <hhalpin> last update is $Id: Overview.xml,v 1.39 2010/05/11 17:21:15 eric Exp $
16:27:30 <hhalpin>         
16:27:43 <hhalpin> notes that we need to publish 
16:27:49 <hhalpin> Ashok: Can we stop the publication process
16:28:08 <hhalpin> it would be better if actual textual changes were suggested rather than just vague "I don't understand" comments
16:28:26 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I'm not on board with publication
16:28:34 <hhalpin> ... it's in an embarrassing state.
16:28:42 <hhalpin> MacTed: I agree that it's not that great
16:28:46 <hhalpin> q+
16:29:15 <hhalpin> Generally governance is by vote.
16:29:20 <hhalpin> You can raise an objection
16:29:37 <LeeF> I don't understand why we can't go ahead and publish and record any objections to publishing.
16:30:23 <hhalpin> Ahmed: SPARQL took 5 months
16:30:28 <hhalpin> Ahmed: We shouldn't rush
16:30:39 <mhausenblas> ack hhalpin
16:30:41 <MacTed> q+
16:30:57 <Ashok> Harry. The W3C works by consensus ... we rarely vote
16:32:16 <hhalpin> Notes that we do vote when there is real difficulty with consensus
16:32:28 <hhalpin> Ahmed: A month is not enough
16:32:45 <hhalpin> Notes that very few people have commented, and the feedback is too vague. You have to address exact changes.
16:32:52 <hhalpin> q+
16:33:15 <hhalpin> Ahmed: We should publish something we should be proud of.
16:33:18 <mhausenblas> ack MacTed
16:33:21 <LeeF> Ashok, note that consensus does not require unanimity.
16:33:23 <hhalpin> ... its worse to publish something that is confusing.
16:33:35 <mhausenblas> q?
16:33:38 <hhalpin> MacTed: Should we publish with only headers
16:33:44 <LeeF> I could support the proposal from MacTed.
16:34:01 <hhalpin> thinks that proposal is a bit crazy
16:34:16 <hhalpin> we should just sit down and actually send it comments, happy to sit on phone with Ahmed and Ashok tomorrow.
16:34:36 <hhalpin> But I would really prefer if people sent in actual comments with *actual* suggested text.
16:35:07 <hhalpin> Ahmed: Some of us were not aware of the size of it
16:35:13 <hhalpin> ... I'm a very busy guy
16:35:15 <mhausenblas> q+
16:35:18 <hhalpin> ... we are where we are.
16:35:23 <Ashok> q+
16:35:34 <hhalpin> Ahmed: the section headers are confusing.
16:35:50 <hhalpin> ... we need a better transition
16:36:06 <mhausenblas> ack hhalpin
16:36:14 <mhausenblas> q?
16:36:17 <LeeF> q+ to note that WG members and chairs have a time commitment to the group
16:37:07 <MacTed> q+
16:37:17 <mhausenblas> q?
16:37:44 <hhalpin> I'm happy to delay the publication more
16:37:47 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements/Reviews
16:37:55 <hhalpin> but we need to actually have a discussion that is not vague and meta-level
16:38:02 <hhalpin> q+
16:38:19 <hhalpin> notes that ericP and michael have not addressed many of the comments, i.e. any of the grammatical notes made by me.
16:38:26 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I did not approve it
16:38:37 <hhalpin> Ahmed: My comments have not been addressed.
16:38:53 <hhalpin> Michael: We discussed them and reached consensus
16:39:00 <LeeF> Can we please stick to the queue?
16:39:42 <LeeF> This is not professional behavior. 
16:39:48 <hhalpin> Ahmed, calm down :)
16:40:08 <hhalpin> +1 LeeF
16:40:17 <mhausenblas> q?
16:40:21 <mhausenblas> ack me
16:40:35 <hhalpin> [lots of discussion, got a bit heated!]
16:41:00 <hhalpin> Ashok: Could we follow up with Harry and Michael and work through it line by line
16:41:03 <hhalpin> ... it may take 3 hours
16:41:11 <hhalpin> ... but then we'll have a better document.
16:41:13 <hhalpin> +1 Ashok
16:41:47 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I may not have 3 hours
16:41:48 <mhausenblas> q?
16:41:52 <mhausenblas> ack Ashok 
16:42:32 <hhalpin> Ahmed: i'd prefer if anyone can participate
16:42:36 <mhausenblas> ack LeeF 
16:42:36 <Zakim> LeeF, you wanted to note that WG members and chairs have a time commitment to the group
16:43:46 <hhalpin> I'm happy to book an extra 2 hours for our next telecon, and can even do it now...
16:44:01 <hhalpin> that's fine with me.
16:44:17 <hhalpin> LeeF: Notes that we have time committements, which I think very people have put in.
16:44:25 <hhalpin> ... publishing this document is an internal step
16:44:27 <mhausenblas> q?
16:44:33 <mhausenblas> ack MacTed 
16:44:47 <hhalpin> ... and it's ok.
16:44:55 <hhalpin> ... if the i's are not dotted and t's not crossed
16:45:02 <hhalpin> MacTed: We have had many discussions
16:45:12 <hhalpin> ... I think the editors have not reflected all the discussions
16:45:17 <hhalpin> ... but just some of them.
16:45:30 <hhalpin> ... however, I'm willing to do it.
16:46:00 <hhalpin> ... and we've committed to partipate in other decisions
16:46:02 <mhausenblas> q?
16:46:07 <LeeF> +1 to MacTed's frustration
16:46:11 <mhausenblas> ack hhalpin 
16:46:39 <mhausenblas> q+
16:47:47 <mhausenblas> ack me
16:48:16 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL: We delay publication one week, and then we book up to two extra hours to go through all the comments
16:48:47 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL: All comments must be sent it this week before the meeting, and comments must be precise about what sentences they don't understand/like and ideally suggest textual changes.
16:49:53 <Souri> If needed, I won't mind meeting for 2+ hrs any time (even) tomorrow or day after (after a careful reading tonight of the latest version) in helping revise the document
16:50:09 <hhalpin> Ahmed: How about for things where I don't have
16:50:18 <hhalpin> Michael: Either a concrete proposal or removal
16:50:22 <hhalpin> +1 Souri
16:50:33 <hhalpin> Michael: it's difficult to guess or to read people's mind when being editors
16:50:43 <hhalpin> ... we need concrete proposals
16:51:03 <hhalpin> q+
16:51:34 <hhalpin> Ashok: Documents have lots of editors, have you actually gone through and fixed them?
16:52:02 <hhalpin> Michael: The editor notes are both for the editors and to communicate things under discussion to readers as well.
16:52:14 <hhalpin> Michael: happy to remove editor notes or turn them concrete
16:52:31 <mhausenblas> ack hhalpin 
16:52:33 <hhalpin> ack hhalpin
16:53:24 <hhalpin> Does next week work for an extra hour or two?
16:54:29 <hhalpin> Ahmed: You need to send comments to editor list
16:54:31 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements/Reviews ?
16:54:35 <hhalpin> Ahmed: to whole list not just editors
16:55:02 <hhalpin> Michael: Note that I have been tracking these comments
16:55:07 <hhalpin> ... see wiki page
16:55:14 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I only read e-mails
16:55:26 <hhalpin> q+
16:55:41 <hhalpin> (notes we need to go forward with this proposal and get consensus!)
16:55:52 <Souri> I agree with the suggestion that, esp. if you cannot meet for some extra time, please send *very specific* review comments and suggestions via email
16:58:12 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL: We delay publication one week, and then we book up to two extra hours to go through all the comments
16:58:33 <Souri> +1
16:58:34 <alexander> +1
16:58:35 <hhalpin> +1
16:58:36 <mhausenblas> +1
16:58:40 <Seema> +1
16:58:41 <Zakim> -??P3
16:58:58 <hhalpin> RESOLUTION: We delay publication one week, and then we book up to two extra hours next meeting to go through all the comments
16:59:09 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL: All comments must be sent it this week before the meeting, and comments must be precise about what sentences they don't understand/like and ideally suggest textual changes
16:59:20 <hhalpin> i.e. comments must be sent it by FRIDAY
16:59:32 <LeeF> I think this is good advice, but I don't see how it makes sense as a WG resolution :)
17:00:08 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL:  All comments must be sent it this week (by Friday) and comments must be precise about what sentences they don't understand/like and ideally suggest textual changes
17:00:10 <Souri> Can we do Saturday end-of-day instead of Friday?
17:00:18 <hhalpin> Saturday end of day works for me
17:00:23 <Souri> Gives me an extra day
17:00:25 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL:  All comments must be sent it this week (by end-of-Saturday) and comments must be precise about what sentences they don't understand/like and ideally suggest textual changes
17:00:46 <Souri> +1
17:00:50 <mhausenblas> +1
17:00:50 <hhalpin> (sorry, I may need Sunday to help put the comments in)
17:00:57 <hhalpin> (Monday is very busy with other WGs for me)
17:01:06 <hhalpin> +1
17:01:23 <hhalpin> RESOLUTION:  All comments must be sent it this week (by end-of-Saturday) and comments must be precise about what sentences they don't understand/like and ideally suggest textual changes
17:02:02 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL: If Ahmed can not make next meeting for extra time, he schedule the time this week with editors and Team contact, and sends the times in e-mail to listserv.
17:03:04 <hhalpin> Ashok: Nervous about doing it differently
17:03:10 <hhalpin> ... let's just stay longer on Tuesday
17:03:12 <hhalpin> q+
17:03:50 <mhausenblas> oh, am I a co-chair? didn't know that :D
17:03:56 <hhalpin> Ashok: If we start scheduling differently, it will be very hard.
17:04:00 <hhalpin> let me mention something!!
17:04:09 <hhalpin> ack hhalpin
17:04:16 <mhausenblas> LeeF, not that I'm aware of
17:05:42 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:05:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:05:49 <hhalpin> so we're definitely doing an extra long meeting on Tuesday
17:05:57 <hhalpin> but if Ahmed has scheduling trouble, then we spend the extra time this week
17:06:05 <hhalpin> and then go through 
17:06:14 <Souri> So, are we meeting 11am-1pm EDT next Tues?
17:06:17 <Zakim> -seema
17:06:18 <hhalpin> another meeting with him and send the comments to him.
17:06:18 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
17:06:18 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
17:06:19 <Zakim> -whalb
17:06:21 <Zakim> -??P29
17:06:27 <hhalpin> Yes Souri.
17:06:27 <Zakim> -juansequeda
17:06:28 <Zakim> -boris
17:06:30 <MacTed> I'll look forward to doing my own major rererereview upon my return....
17:06:36 <Zakim> -MacTed
17:06:41 <hhalpin> Although hopefully we will not need all that time!
17:06:47 <Zakim> -Lee_Feigenbaum
17:12:08 <hhalpin> trackbot, meeting adjourned
17:12:08 <trackbot> Sorry, hhalpin, I don't understand 'trackbot, meeting adjourned'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
17:12:16 <hhalpin> RSSAgent, draft minutes
17:12:42 <hhalpin> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:12:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html hhalpin
17:16:58 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list attendees 
17:16:58 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been MacTed, mhausenblas, whalb, boris, seema, +1.512.471.aaaa, juansequeda, hhalpin, souri, nunolopes, Ashok_Malhotra, Lee_Feigenbaum
17:17:06 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:17:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:18:04 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:18:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see hhalpin, souri
17:18:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see juansequeda, Zakim, RRSAgent, hhalpin, MacTed, mhausenblas, LeeF, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:18:23 <mhausenblas> oh, you're still on the call, sorry
17:18:41 <mhausenblas> ok, minutes look fine from my side - can you send out for review, please, hhalpin ?
17:20:39 <mhausenblas> when you send out the minutes, hhalpin, can you make sure that you give people a heads-up re longer meeting next week?
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17:27:27 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:27:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see hhalpin, souri
17:27:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see juansequeda, Zakim, RRSAgent, hhalpin, MacTed, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:28:17 <Zakim> -hhalpin
17:29:20 <mhausenblas> hhalpin, ok with above?
17:29:41 <mhausenblas> re minutes+heads-up, I mean?
17:31:54 <mhausenblas> cya all next week
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18:05:06 <Zakim> Attendees were MacTed, mhausenblas, whalb, boris, seema, +1.512.471.aaaa, juansequeda, hhalpin, souri, nunolopes, Ashok_Malhotra, Lee_Feigenbaum
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