IRC log of sparql on 2010-05-11
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- Zakim, this will be 77277
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- ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
- 13:56:19 [LeeF]
- zakim, this will be SPARQL
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- Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
- 13:56:19 [Zakim]
- ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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- Date: 11 May 2010
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- Agenda: ??
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- agenda+ Administration
- 13:57:00 [LeeF]
- agenda+ Negation survey
- 13:57:08 [LeeF]
- agenda+ Document reviews and readiness
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- agenda+ Dedicated telecons?
- 13:57:16 [LeeF]
- agenda+ AOB?
- 13:58:20 [Zakim]
- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
- 13:58:20 [LeeF]
- kasei, do we have any need to talk about the naming issues more on today's TC?
- 13:58:28 [Zakim]
- +??P18
- 13:58:35 [AndyS]
- zakim, ??P18 is me
- 13:58:35 [Zakim]
- +AndyS; got it
- 13:58:44 [Zakim]
- +Lee_Feigenbaum
- 13:58:59 [kasei]
- I think only if sandro has more to say (and he's not here today, right?)
- 13:59:21 [Zakim]
- + +49.238.aaaa
- 13:59:47 [Zakim]
- + +1.518.276.aabb
- 13:59:49 [OlivierCorby]
- Zakim, 49.238.aaaa is me
- 13:59:49 [Zakim]
- sorry, OlivierCorby, I do not recognize a party named '49.238.aaaa'
- 13:59:56 [kasei]
- we could discuss namedgraph vs. namedgraphdescription, but that seems less interesting..
- 14:00:00 [kasei]
- Zakim, aabb is me
- 14:00:02 [Zakim]
- +kasei; got it
- 14:00:14 [OlivierCorby]
- Zakim, aaaa is me
- 14:00:14 [Zakim]
- +OlivierCorby; got it
- 14:00:28 [LeeF]
- Regrets: MattPerry, Souri
- 14:00:44 [kasei]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:00:44 [Zakim]
- kasei should now be muted
- 14:00:54 [AndyS]
- kasei - what do you think? /me will go with what the editor suggests (evenifnamedgraphdescriptionisverylong)
- 14:01:07 [Zakim]
- +??P27
- 14:01:09 [kasei]
- AndyS, ick! :)
- 14:01:18 [bglimm]
- Zakim, ??P27 is me
- 14:01:19 [Zakim]
- +bglimm; got it
- 14:01:20 [LeeF]
- minutes from last week are at - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-05-04
- 14:01:27 [kasei]
- I prefer just NamedGraph, but NamedGraphDescription certainly seems more accurate.
- 14:01:32 [bglimm]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:01:32 [Zakim]
- bglimm should now be muted
- 14:01:53 [Zakim]
- + +03539149aacc
- 14:02:02 [AxelPolleres]
- trackbot, start meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 77277
- 14:02:06 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
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- Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 11 May 2010
- 14:02:14 [LeeF]
- zakim, this is SPARQL
- 14:02:14 [Zakim]
- ok, LeeF; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
- 14:02:26 [LeeF]
- zakim, aacc is AxelPolleres
- 14:02:26 [Zakim]
- +AxelPolleres; got it
- 14:02:31 [LeeF]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 14:02:31 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AndyS, Lee_Feigenbaum, OlivierCorby, kasei (muted), bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres
- 14:02:44 [AndyS]
- Could explain in the text that it describes. It's a pun we use all the time thing and pattern for thing - we talk about triples in a query
- 14:02:48 [ivan]
- zakim, dial ivan-voip
- 14:02:48 [Zakim]
- ok, ivan; the call is being made
- 14:02:50 [Zakim]
- +Ivan
- 14:03:20 [kasei]
- did anyone understand the openlink BINDINGS issue email?
- 14:03:26 [kasei]
- AndyS - yes, true.
- 14:03:36 [LeeF]
- kasei, I asked that it be sent to the WG mailing list, and then I'll give it a close read
- 14:03:52 [AxelPolleres]
- scribe: Axel Polleres
- 14:04:41 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: main goal is to check documents for publication, and secondly collect big issues and schedule
- 14:05:09 [AxelPolleres]
- ... dedicated task forces/telecons on these issues (Andy's suggestion)
- 14:05:31 [LeeF]
- zakim, next agendm
- 14:05:32 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'next agendm', LeeF
- 14:05:33 [LeeF]
- zakim, next agendum
- 14:05:33 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Administration" taken up [from LeeF]
- 14:05:38 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: Admin
- 14:05:43 [LeeF]
- minutes from last week - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-05-04#federated_queries
- 14:05:50 [LeeF]
- PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-05-04#federated_queries
- 14:06:13 [LeeF]
- RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-05-04#federated_queries
- 14:06:27 [LeeF]
- next meeting is one week from today May 18
- 14:06:31 [ivan]
- regrets for me
- 14:06:36 [LeeF]
- Sandro to scribe next week
- 14:06:44 [ivan]
- I will be at a meeting in Stockholm
- 14:06:45 [AxelPolleres]
- sandro to scribe next week.
- 14:07:17 [Zakim]
- + +1.312.863.aadd
- 14:07:19 [AxelPolleres]
- other admin issues?
- 14:07:29 [pgearon]
- Zakim, aadd is me
- 14:07:30 [Zakim]
- +pgearon; got it
- 14:07:44 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: rdb2rdf to publish use cases/requirements soon...
- 14:07:58 [pgearon]
- hi
- 14:07:59 [AlexPassant]
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- ... rdb2rdf discuss whether SPARQL2SQL is a goal or not.
- 14:08:20 [LeeF]
- zakim, close agendum
- 14:08:20 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'close agendum', LeeF
- 14:08:24 [LeeF]
- zakim, next agendum
- 14:08:24 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Negation survey" taken up [from LeeF]
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- +??P14
- 14:08:36 [AlexPassant]
- Zakim, ??P14 is me
- 14:08:36 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: negation survey
- 14:08:38 [Zakim]
- +AlexPassant; got it
- 14:08:43 [LeeF]
- web survey on negation at http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35463/Negation/
- 14:09:29 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: one response per organisation
- 14:09:49 [AxelPolleres]
- ... please agree and reply by monday next week.
- 14:10:35 [AxelPolleres]
- ... if appropriate add rationale to your answers, but not obligatory.
- 14:10:35 [LeeF]
- zakim, next agendum
- 14:10:35 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Document reviews and readiness" taken up [from LeeF]
- 14:10:50 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: Document reviews and readiness
- 14:11:37 [AxelPolleres]
- lee: we look at actually publishing end of next week, all docs that are ready, not necessarily all.
- 14:11:52 [AxelPolleres]
- ... matt did a review.
- 14:11:56 [LeeF]
- MattPerry's review of query document: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0115.html
- 14:12:48 [AxelPolleres]
- ... looks like no real blockers for publishing in those comments, but some things should be sorted before publication.
- 14:13:19 [AndyS]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0127.html
- 14:13:25 [AxelPolleres]
- Andy: I expected this publication to be rather a snapshot.
- 14:13:47 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: we won't neglect those comments.
- 14:14:00 [AxelPolleres]
- Andy: TODOs have been added.
- 14:14:16 [LeeF]
- PROPOSE: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Query as a Working Draft
- 14:14:26 [ivan]
- +1
- 14:14:27 [bglimm]
- +1
- 14:14:27 [AxelPolleres]
- +1
- 14:14:39 [OlivierCorby]
- +1
- 14:14:40 [LeeF]
- RESOLVED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Query as a Working Draft
- 14:14:47 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: anyone wants to abstain or object?
- 14:14:51 [AxelPolleres]
- no one...
- 14:15:31 [LeeF]
- ACTION: Lee to remove old working draft snapshots from CVS
- 14:15:31 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-233 - Remove old working draft snapshots from CVS [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-05-18].
- 14:15:33 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: Editors please check as far as possible the pubrules, will take over overall coordination.
- 14:15:41 [LeeF]
- ACTION: Lee to coordinate prep and publication of working drafts
- 14:15:41 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-234 - Coordinate prep and publication of working drafts [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-05-18].
- 14:15:56 [AxelPolleres]
- subtopic: update
- 14:16:28 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: my review will be done this week, hope to decide to publish next week
- 14:16:56 [LeeF]
- return codes discussion: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0113.html
- 14:17:03 [AxelPolleres]
- Paul: ... discussion about partial LOAD.
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- 14:17:34 [AndyS]
- We do say "failure => stop, no further operations attempted"?
- 14:17:34 [bglimm]
- Zakim, bglimm has bglimm, chimezie
- 14:17:34 [Zakim]
- +bglimm, chimezie; got it
- 14:17:41 [chimezie]
- Zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:17:41 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AndyS, Lee_Feigenbaum, OlivierCorby, kasei (muted), bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, Ivan, pgearon, AlexPassant
- 14:17:43 [AxelPolleres]
- ... not sure what/how much to say about success/failure here.
- 14:17:43 [Zakim]
- bglimm has bglimm, chimezie
- 14:18:18 [chimezie]
- Zakim, who is here?
- 14:18:18 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AndyS, Lee_Feigenbaum, OlivierCorby, kasei (muted), bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, Ivan, pgearon, AlexPassant
- 14:18:22 [Zakim]
- bglimm has bglimm, chimezie
- 14:18:24 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see chimezie, AlexPassant, Zakim, RRSAgent, LeeF, bglimm, OlivierCorby, AndyS, AxelPolleres, ivan, iv_an_ru, pgearon, karl, kasei, sandro, trackbot
- 14:18:53 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: we had discussed different failure codes for different failure conditions for protocol
- 14:19:03 [AndyS]
- q+
- 14:19:08 [LeeF]
- ack AndyS
- 14:19:08 [AxelPolleres]
- ... do people think we need that or just success/failure?
- 14:19:36 [pgearon]
- +q
- 14:19:40 [LeeF]
- ack pgearon
- 14:20:09 [AxelPolleres]
- Andy: don't mind more sophisticated failure, but some systems may have difficulties determining partial load
- 14:20:44 [AxelPolleres]
- andy, did I get that right?
- 14:21:18 [LeeF]
- AndyS: some systems would have a lot of trouble telling one failure cause from another
- 14:21:35 [AxelPolleres]
- Andy: we can make some suggestions
- 14:22:10 [AxelPolleres]
- q+
- 14:22:29 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: think simple approach is better for the moment
- 14:22:47 [LeeF]
- ack AxelPolleres
- 14:23:08 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres: What was Andy's suggestion?
- 14:23:13 [LeeF]
- q?
- 14:24:59 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: on the protocol level, we have only two overall failures "it's your fault" or "it's my fault" ... more detailed information typically not in HTTP, but in a (rather human readable) messagein the payload of the response.
- 14:25:47 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: let's leave it to success failure, but we could give some recommendations on how to specify errors in more detail
- 14:26:17 [AxelPolleres]
- Paul: I'll do it in a day or do, or otherwise keep it in mind.
- 14:26:23 [bglimm]
- I reviewed it
- 14:26:30 [bglimm]
- it's ready I would say
- 14:26:30 [AxelPolleres]
- subtopic: service description
- 14:26:49 [AxelPolleres]
- Leef: We have a review from Birte.
- 14:26:51 [LeeF]
- review from birte: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0130.html
- 14:27:40 [AxelPolleres]
- ... one issue which is stil discussed on the mailinglist concerning naming.
- 14:27:47 [LeeF]
- PROPOSE: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Service Description as Working Draft
- 14:27:48 [AxelPolleres]
- ... but we should be ready to publish.
- 14:27:50 [ivan]
- +1
- 14:27:51 [bglimm]
- +1
- 14:27:53 [AxelPolleres]
- +1
- 14:27:57 [chimezie]
- +1
- 14:27:57 [OlivierCorby]
- +1
- 14:28:08 [LeeF]
- RESOLVED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Service Description as Working Draft
- 14:28:30 [AxelPolleres]
- subtopic: http-update
- 14:28:39 [AxelPolleres]
- not discussed last week.
- 14:28:41 [chimezie]
- i don't think we did
- 14:28:57 [chimezie]
- I need feedback about the updates
- 14:29:03 [chimezie]
- regarding Kjetl's comments
- 14:29:07 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: chime, is it good to be published?
- 14:29:10 [chimezie]
- primarily
- 14:29:28 [AxelPolleres]
- ... we need a reviewer.
- 14:29:53 [chimezie]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0067.html
- 14:30:06 [chimezie]
- was my overview of the updates and there was some more back and forth in the thread
- 14:30:27 [AxelPolleres]
- ... open, rewording for ISSUE-49
- 14:31:16 [chimezie]
- I also need to incorporate text regarding fragments in URIs and Base URI resolution also discussed in other threads
- 14:31:22 [chimezie]
- but that was a less contenious issue IMHO
- 14:31:23 [AxelPolleres]
- ... reviewer should check the document with respect to the latest changes in response to that mail-thread.
- 14:31:31 [kasei]
- i can look over it
- 14:31:48 [chimezie]
- I will work the changes into the editor's draft
- 14:31:53 [LeeF]
- ACTION: Greg to review HTTP Uniform Protocol for Managing RDF Graphs
- 14:31:53 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-235 - Review HTTP Uniform Protocol for Managing RDF Graphs [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-05-18].
- 14:32:10 [chimezie]
- yes
- 14:32:28 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: Chime, you want to include changes for this publication still?
- 14:32:28 [chimezie]
- okay
- 14:32:34 [AxelPolleres]
- Chime: yes.
- 14:32:47 [AxelPolleres]
- subtopic: Entailment
- 14:32:50 [bglimm]
- Ent. reg. is ready for review
- 14:33:05 [bglimm]
- from my point it's in a good state
- 14:33:08 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: no reviewer yet.
- 14:33:26 [bglimm]
- Peter Patel Schneider reviewed it
- 14:33:46 [bglimm]
- he mainly looked at the OWL part
- 14:34:24 [AxelPolleres]
- ivan: I can do a review, not sure that's the best, I was quite involved.
- 14:34:36 [LeeF]
- ACTION: Ivan to review SPARQL 1.1 Entailment document for WD publication readiness
- 14:34:36 [trackbot]
- Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Ivan
- 14:34:36 [trackbot]
- Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)
- 14:34:39 [AxelPolleres]
- ... will go through it tomorrow.
- 14:34:46 [LeeF]
- ACTION: ivan to review SPARQL 1.1 Entailment document for WD publication readiness
- 14:34:46 [trackbot]
- Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - ivan
- 14:34:46 [trackbot]
- Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)
- 14:34:58 [LeeF]
- ACTION: ivan herman to review SPARQL 1.1 Entailment document for WD publication readiness
- 14:34:58 [trackbot]
- Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - ivan
- 14:34:58 [trackbot]
- Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)
- 14:35:01 [LeeF]
- ACTION: herman to review SPARQL 1.1 Entailment document for WD publication readiness
- 14:35:01 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-236 - Review SPARQL 1.1 Entailment document for WD publication readiness [on Ivan Herman - due 2010-05-18].
- 14:35:35 [AxelPolleres]
- subtopic: federated query
- 14:35:57 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: some open questions still
- 14:36:20 [ivan]
- q+
- 14:36:22 [AxelPolleres]
- ... will clarify with Eric, we hold off from publishing right now.
- 14:36:28 [LeeF]
- ack ivan
- 14:37:34 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: group thinks that fed query SERVICE should be optional. but BINDINGS is something maybe more important for query.
- 14:37:54 [AxelPolleres]
- ... I had assumed that it will be a separate document.
- 14:38:01 [AxelPolleres]
- q+
- 14:38:34 [LeeF]
- ack AxelPolleres
- 14:38:53 [AndyS]
- A brutal C&P and we could add to query doc as an appendix for now.
- 14:40:28 [LeeF]
- straw poll: federated query as own doucment or in query document
- 14:40:36 [pgearon]
- +1 for query
- 14:40:40 [chimezie]
- +1 own document
- 14:40:41 [kasei]
- 0
- 14:40:42 [AxelPolleres]
- Axel: remember we said that we should publish for now as own document, but could later include it (since all queries may be refused)
- 14:40:44 [bglimm]
- +1 own
- 14:40:44 [AndyS]
- 0: don't mind
- 14:40:51 [OlivierCorby]
- 0
- 14:40:56 [AlexPassant]
- 0
- 14:40:58 [LeeF]
- +1 own
- 14:41:01 [ivan]
- +0.5 for query
- 14:41:25 [AxelPolleres]
- 0 separate for now and include later (like propertypaths), seems fine to me but means extra hurdle of FPWD
- 14:42:02 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: anything more about the document itself?
- 14:42:03 [LeeF]
- LeeF: I'll talk to Eric about it and propose approach to publishing fed query this week on mailing list
- 14:42:10 [LeeF]
- zakim, next agendum
- 14:42:10 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Dedicated telecons?" taken up [from LeeF]
- 14:42:51 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres: Talk to Eric also about the discussion re: variables in SERVICE
- 14:42:57 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: will check with Eric about the minutes two weeks ago.
- 14:43:32 [AxelPolleres]
- ... regarding variables for SERVICE, some remark should have been added at least to the doc.
- 14:44:00 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: issues and schedule
- 14:44:07 [LeeF]
- potential topics:
- 14:44:10 [LeeF]
- * update formal model
- 14:44:19 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: we collect topics and organis dedicated telconfs.
- 14:44:27 [LeeF]
- * property paths open questions (duplicates, cycles, negated paths)
- 14:44:37 [LeeF]
- * building test cases
- 14:45:45 [AxelPolleres]
- * Dminus entailment (probably this is a minor/time allowed one)
- 14:46:07 [bglimm]
- D Entailment without RDFS entailments
- 14:46:26 [bglimm]
- call
- 14:46:39 [bglimm]
- but muted (sitting in a loud hotel lobby)
- 14:47:05 [LeeF]
- Who would try to attend a dedicated TC on an update formal model?
- 14:47:08 [pgearon]
- +1
- 14:47:09 [AxelPolleres]
- +1
- 14:47:11 [LeeF]
- +1
- 14:47:13 [AndyS]
- +1
- 14:47:48 [LeeF]
- Who would try to attend a dedicated TC on property paths open issues?
- 14:47:57 [ivan]
- +1
- 14:47:59 [LeeF]
- +1
- 14:47:59 [kasei]
- +1
- 14:47:59 [pgearon]
- +1
- 14:48:01 [OlivierCorby]
- +1
- 14:48:01 [AndyS]
- +1
- 14:48:05 [AlexPassant]
- +1
- 14:48:05 [AxelPolleres]
- +1
- 14:48:07 [bglimm]
- +1
- 14:48:15 [chimezie]
- 0.5 (not certain)
- 14:48:41 [LeeF]
- Who would try to attend a dedicated TC for building out test cases?
- 14:48:44 [LeeF]
- +1
- 14:48:45 [AxelPolleres]
- +1
- 14:48:46 [kasei]
- +1 time permitting
- 14:48:48 [AndyS]
- +1
- 14:48:48 [bglimm]
- +1
- 14:48:57 [OlivierCorby]
- +1
- 14:49:09 [AndyS]
- (but not *doing* all test cases)
- 14:49:25 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: will try to set up doodle or alike
- 14:49:55 [LeeF]
- Who would try to attend a dedicated TC for Dminus entailment?
- 14:49:57 [ivan]
- +1
- 14:49:58 [AxelPolleres]
- +1
- 14:49:58 [bglimm]
- +1
- 14:50:02 [chimezie]
- +1
- 14:50:31 [LeeF]
- zakim, next agendum
- 14:50:31 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "AOB?" taken up [from LeeF]
- 14:50:31 [ivan]
- :-)
- 14:50:41 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: AOB
- 14:51:14 [bglimm]
- bye
- 14:51:14 [chimezie]
- good bye
- 14:51:17 [Zakim]
- -bglimm
- 14:51:18 [ivan]
- zakim, drop me
- 14:51:18 [Zakim]
- Ivan is being disconnected
- 14:51:18 [Zakim]
- -Ivan
- 14:51:19 [pgearon]
- ciao
- 14:51:24 [Zakim]
- -kasei
- 14:51:26 [Zakim]
- -OlivierCorby
- 14:51:27 [Zakim]
- -Lee_Feigenbaum
- 14:51:32 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: next week, we will finish WD's conversation and other issues arising on the mailinglist. adjourned.
- 14:51:35 [Zakim]
- -AndyS
- 14:51:38 [Zakim]
- -pgearon
- 14:51:47 [AxelPolleres]
- rrsagent, make records public
- 14:52:02 [AxelPolleres]
- regrets: Matt Perry
- 14:52:45 [AxelPolleres]
- chair: Lee Feigenbaum
- 14:53:01 [AxelPolleres]
- rrsagent, make records public
- 15:01:14 [sandro]
- news is so funny. I googled for "w3c rif news" and found "New Rule Interchange Format (W3C RIF) Standard Published" http://www.targetwire.com/targetwire/2009/07/21/tw645/tw645_uk.html Compared to that, where is the news in a Proposed Recommendation? :-)
- 15:02:06 [sandro]
- (I guess this was a press release from the RuleML folks.)
- 15:13:47 [Zakim]
- -AlexPassant
- 15:14:47 [sandro]
- (oops wrong channel)
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- 15:35:01 [Zakim]
- disconnecting the lone participant, AxelPolleres, in SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
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- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
- 15:35:07 [Zakim]
- Attendees were AndyS, Lee_Feigenbaum, +49.238.aaaa, +1.518.276.aabb, kasei, OlivierCorby, +03539149aacc, AxelPolleres, Ivan, +1.312.863.aadd, pgearon, AlexPassant, bglimm, chimezie
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- 16:39:45 [LeeF]
- ACTION: Lee to coordinate dedicated teleconferences
- 16:39:45 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-237 - Coordinate dedicated teleconferences [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-05-18].
- 16:53:53 [kasei]
- is there a reason the fed editor's draft isn't linked from the wiki sidebar?
- 16:56:46 [LeeF]
- oversight
- 16:56:56 [LeeF]
- ...and i never remember how to edit the sidebar :)
- 16:59:19 [LeeF]
- OK, made this update
- 17:07:17 [kasei]
- hrm. I thought BINDINGS was supposed to be the last thing in the query so it could be streamed but the fed draft says it comes right after the where GGP...
- 17:08:05 [kasei]
- i.e. before SolutionModifier
- 17:16:18 [LeeF]
- yeah, Andy brought that up and we had consensus that it should be changed
- 17:16:23 [LeeF]
- one of the things on my list to talk to EricP about
- 17:16:25 [LeeF]
- along with
- 17:16:28 [LeeF]
- * no BINDINGS in update
- 17:16:36 [LeeF]
- * is BINDINGS a required part of SPARQL query?
- 17:16:44 [kasei]
- ah, ok. i missed that.
- 17:16:55 [LeeF]
- * discussion of variables in SERVICE
- 17:17:23 [kasei]
- all these things that we've talked about and I thought we had resolved... :)