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16:00:13 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
16:00:13 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start now
16:00:14 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:00:14 <trackbot> Date: 11 May 2010
16:00:42 <hhalpin> hhalpin has changed the topic to: RDB2RDF Meeting May 11th
16:00:46 <MacTed> Zakim, this is 7322733
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16:00:55 <Zakim> ok, MacTed; that matches SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM
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16:01:03 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
16:01:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see +043316876aaaa
16:01:15 <Zakim> + +1.781.273.aabb
16:01:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see juansequeda, seema, Zakim, RRSAgent, whalb, cygri, Ashok, hhalpin, Marcelo, MacTed, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:01:24 <Zakim> + +1.562.249.aacc
16:01:26 <whalb> zakim, aaaa is me
16:01:32 <Zakim> +whalb; got it
16:01:36 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd
16:01:36 <MacTed> Zakim, aabb is OpenLink_Software
16:01:37 <MacTed> zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
16:01:42 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software; got it
16:01:44 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
16:01:51 <Zakim> +??P7
16:01:52 <Zakim> + +1.512.471.aaee
16:02:11 <hhalpin> Zakim, ??P7 is hhalpin
16:02:14 <Zakim> +hhalpin; got it
16:02:20 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
16:02:40 <mhausenblas> Zakim, code?
16:02:40 <Zakim> the conference code is 7322733 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), mhausenblas
16:02:43 <seema> zakim, aadd is me
16:02:43 <Zakim> +seema; got it
16:03:05 <Zakim> + +3539149aaff
16:03:16 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaff is me
16:03:16 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
16:03:23 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me
16:03:23 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
16:03:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:03:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see whalb, MacTed, +1.562.249.aacc, seema, hhalpin, +1.512.471.aaee, Ashok_Malhotra, mhausenblas
16:03:30 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
16:03:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see juansequeda, seema, Zakim, RRSAgent, whalb, cygri, Ashok, hhalpin, Marcelo, MacTed, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:03:33 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
16:03:41 <mhausenblas> scribenick: cygri 
16:04:01 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
16:04:01 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
16:04:02 <Zakim> +EricP
16:04:27 <cygri> Topic: 1. Admin
16:04:43 <cygri> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of the 4 May 2010 telecon,
16:04:43 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2010/05/04-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
16:05:11 <hhalpin> +1
16:05:18 <cygri> RESOLVED: Accept the minutes of the 4 May 2010 telecon http://www.w3.org/2010/05/04-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
16:05:32 <cygri> Topic: 2. Introduction of new members
16:05:54 <hhalpin> I can send them a quick e-mail with telecon instructions.
16:05:55 <cygri> intro email from Boris and Alexander: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010May/0024.html
16:06:01 <cygri> Topic: 3. Use Case Document
16:06:06 <hhalpin> perhaps they had some issues calling in.
16:06:06 <Marcelo> Zakim, aacc is me
16:06:06 <Zakim> +Marcelo; got it
16:06:10 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements/Reviews
16:06:27 <cygri> draft is here: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/use-cases/
16:06:54 <hhalpin> well, we need to make sure the working draft is well-formed english :)
16:07:03 <Zakim> + +039046128aagg
16:07:13 <hhalpin> but all of my comments are minor, and do not cause substantial changes to text.
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16:08:12 <hhalpin> Usually "authors" are people who contributed substantial amounts of text
16:08:20 <hhalpin> "Contributors" are people who sent in, say, comments.
16:08:29 <hhalpin> That is more or less W3C process.
16:08:35 <hhalpin> to my knowledge.
16:08:38 <hhalpin> +1 marcelo
16:08:38 <cygri> Marcelo: authors should be who contributed to writing of use cases, not everyone
16:08:45 <seema> +1 to marcelo's suggestion
16:08:57 <cygri> mhausenblas: all members would typically listed in the acknowledgements
16:09:07 <ericP> PROPOSED to list WG members in acknowldgements
16:09:17 <ericP> PROPOSED to list WG members in acknowldgements and keep author list as it
16:09:21 <Marcelo> +1
16:09:23 <juansequeda> +1
16:09:23 <cygri> +1
16:09:28 <hhalpin> _1
16:09:29 <ericP> APPROVED
16:09:39 <hhalpin> +1
16:10:14 <cygri> ericP: I addressed Ahmed's comment
16:10:15 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:10:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:10:22 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, make records public
16:11:11 <cygri> ericP: Juan didn't want to have SQL query in use case
16:11:49 <cygri> Juan: it's enough to *say* we translate to SQL, we don't need to *show* it
16:11:55 <cygri> thanks mhausenblas
16:12:17 <cygri> RESOLUTION: list WG members in acknowldgements and keep author list as it
16:12:56 <hhalpin> q+
16:13:07 <cygri> Juan: the specific SQL depends on implementer so let's not show one specific
16:13:35 <mhausenblas> ack hhalpin
16:13:36 <cygri> ericP: but we should show that we can do an effective job
16:13:53 <hhalpin> ericP added this "This query is not a normative representation of the earlier SPARQL query; it is included here only to illustrate the ability of R2RML tools to produce efficient SQL queries."
16:13:55 <cygri> mhausenblas: let's focus on the document, we want to get first draft out today
16:14:02 <hhalpin> I propose that
16:14:17 <hhalpin> s "This query is not a normative representation of the earlier SPARQL query; it is included here only to illustrate that R2ML could produce efficient SQL queries."
16:14:39 <hhalpin> Zakim, unmute me
16:14:39 <Zakim> hhalpin was not muted, hhalpin
16:14:56 <hhalpin> Well, my proposal is just as easy to read in IRC as anywhere else.
16:15:10 <ericP> current text says "This query is not a normative representation of the earlier SPARQL query; it is included here only to illustrate the ability of R2RML tools to produce efficient SQL queries.
16:15:14 <ericP> "
16:15:15 <hhalpin> Thus, we do not say that we *have* to produce efficient SQL, but implementations *could*.
16:15:19 <cygri> Ashok: this sentence is too weak, it doesn't say anything
16:15:34 <hhalpin> Ashok - that sentence is from EricP.
16:15:40 <hhalpin> I changed ONE word.
16:15:49 <cygri> mhausenblas: let's take it as editorial note for now
16:16:26 <hhalpin> i.e. said it "could" produce SQL queries.
16:16:31 <cygri> PROPOSAL: ed note: "This query is not a normative representation of the earlier SPARQL query; it is included here only to illustrate that R2ML could produce efficient SQL queries."
16:17:31 <hhalpin> Let's do a go around on deleting or keeping that SQL query in then.
16:17:43 <Zakim> -hhalpin
16:18:05 <juansequeda> q+
16:18:23 <Zakim> +??P7
16:18:32 <hhalpin> Zakim, ??P7 is hhalpin
16:18:32 <Zakim> +hhalpin; got it
16:18:39 <hhalpin> q+
16:18:42 <cygri> seema: let's not put a sql query
16:19:14 <mhausenblas> q?
16:19:36 <mhausenblas> ack juansequeda
16:19:41 <cygri> (ericP and MacTed talk about wether efficiency is relevant in the context of the use case)
16:21:34 <cygri> PROPOSAL: separate section, independent from the use cases, that says "this sparql might be translated to this efficient sql"
16:21:56 <hhalpin> why not just keep that text in the use-case?
16:22:02 <mhausenblas> q?
16:22:10 <hhalpin> we have enough sections as is.
16:22:20 <hhalpin> its actually better to have it in use-cases rather than requirements.
16:22:34 <cygri> Juan: why not stick it in section on requirement "sql generation"?
16:22:50 <MacTed> q+
16:22:54 <cygri> hhalpin: in requirements, it sounds like we *require* efficient sql to be produced
16:23:22 <cygri> Juan: but we have the "sql generation" section already
16:23:41 <mhausenblas> ack MacTed
16:24:01 <hhalpin> I'm saying it causes minimum damage in the "use case" docuemnt
16:24:29 <cygri> MacTed: everyone wants efficient sql obviously. the important thing is that every sparql query is rendered as executable sql. efficiency is not important.
16:25:18 <cygri> ericP: my use case has to do with querying massive numbers of records. efficiency is key to that use case. i want to keep it there
16:25:22 <hhalpin> So maybe add "This query is not a normative representation of the earlier SPARQL query; it is included here only to illustrate the ability of R2RML tools to produce efficient SQL queries" -> "This query is not a normative representation of the earlier SPARQL query; it is included here only to illustrate the ability of R2RML tools to possibly produce efficient SQL queries, although our mapping file will not mandate any particular transformation of SPARQL to
16:25:22 <hhalpin>  SQL."
16:25:32 <hhalpin> just to be clear.
16:26:02 <hhalpin> +1 a vote
16:26:15 <mhausenblas> I agree, but we need a question ... :)
16:26:20 <mhausenblas> ideally on IRC
16:26:37 <juansequeda> Who wants to put SQL in the use case document?
16:26:43 <cygri> PROPOSAL: leave the SQL there as an ed note, with
16:26:56 <cygri> PROPOSAL: leave the SQL there as an ed note, with hhalpin's proposed rewording
16:27:00 <cygri> +1
16:27:00 <ericP> +1
16:27:07 <hhalpin> +1
16:27:07 <LeeF> The requirement really sounds like to avoid a design that precludes generating efficient SQL queries
16:27:17 <Marcelo> +1
16:27:37 <LeeF> +1 to having a SQL query example in UC&R
16:27:51 <angela_Unitn> -1 have sql query
16:27:53 <hhalpin> (Note that the rewording mentions a SQL query in a use-case, with the following text: This query is not a normative representation of the earlier SPARQL query; it is included here only to illustrate the ability of R2RML tools to possibly produce efficient SQL queries, although our mapping file will not mandate any particular transformation of SPARQL to SQL.
16:28:01 <Ashok> -!
16:28:01 <hhalpin> ) I was hoping that text addresses Juan's concern.
16:28:04 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:28:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see whalb, MacTed, Marcelo, seema, +1.512.471.aaee, Ashok_Malhotra, mhausenblas, EricP, +039046128aagg, hhalpin
16:28:06 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
16:28:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see angela_Unitn, juansequeda, seema, Zakim, RRSAgent, whalb, cygri, Ashok, hhalpin, Marcelo, MacTed, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
16:28:09 <seema> -1
16:28:09 <whalb> +1
16:28:23 <seema> i would rather just have the wording..not the SQL
16:28:48 <MacTed> -1
16:28:50 <juansequeda> -1
16:29:05 <juansequeda> dan: -1
16:29:24 <hhalpin> This is rather close...
16:29:34 <hhalpin> perhaps we should try a "Can we live with it being removed" vote?
16:29:42 <MacTed> english saying "the R2RML allows for translation of arbitrary SPARQL to executable SQL.  efficiency is left as an excercise for the implementor."  ;-)
16:30:13 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:30:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:31:32 <cygri> PROPOSAL: remove sql query from the document
16:31:33 <hhalpin> PROPOSAL: Remove SQL query and associated text from document.
16:32:03 <LeeF> Abstain.
16:32:11 <hhalpin> We could do a straw poll again...
16:32:28 <hhalpin> well the associated text doesn't make much sense without the SQL query.
16:32:36 <ericP> abstain
16:32:37 <hhalpin> We could try to add some suitable text there if we can think of some.
16:33:10 <hhalpin> ericP - can you think of some text that can be added in that satisfies you?
16:33:15 <cygri> mhausenblas: any objections?
16:34:08 <cygri> RESOLUTION: Remove SQL query and associated text from document.
16:34:25 <cygri> dan: i'd keep the general notion of the section's first paragraph, but without the query
16:35:43 <cygri> ericP: sören suggested to move UC5 and UC6 to requirements
16:36:32 <cygri> ... i moved them to the requirements, MANYTOMANY and VALUETYPE
16:36:41 <LeeF> I'm ok with it.
16:36:45 <hhalpin> like " The RDF graphs defined by a mapping over a relational database need not be materialised. Indeed, queries or inference may be expressed in terms of a notional representation of relational data, but executed over the original relational store. Executing a SQL query over any data in the relational tables should give results identical to a SPARQL query over the RDF graph mapped from that relational data. While our specification will not produce a normat
16:36:45 <hhalpin> ive  SQL representation of arbitrary SPARQL query; although RDB2RDF tools could possibly produce efficient SQL queries from SPARQL queries without materialization."
16:36:49 <cygri> ... anyone has issues with this?
16:37:06 <hhalpin> There's some text based on EricP's minus any reference to an actual SQL query.
16:37:49 <ericP> PROPOSE 4.1.8 MANYTOMANY  and  4.1.9 VALUETYPE  address Soren's and Juan's comments around UC5 and 6
16:38:00 <cygri> PROPOSAL: 4.1.8 MANYTOMANY  and  4.1.9 VALUETYPE  address Soren's and Juan's comments around UC5 and 6
16:38:08 <MacTed> +1
16:38:08 <cygri> +1
16:38:11 <juansequeda> +1
16:38:23 <ericP> APPROVED
16:38:34 <cygri> RESOLUTION: 4.1.8 MANYTOMANY  and  4.1.9 VALUETYPE  address Soren's and Juan's comments around UC5 and 6
16:39:12 <cygri> Juan: UC3 is the only one that has all these sections
16:39:34 <cygri> ericP: are you ok with publishihng UC3 as is, and clean it up later?
16:39:38 <angela_Unitn> for me you can clean them up
16:40:09 <hhalpin> and the rest of the formatting around UC3.
16:40:13 <hhalpin> that separates it from other use-cases.
16:40:18 <angela_Unitn> +1
16:40:43 <hhalpin> propose making UC3 like the rest of the use-cases!
16:40:44 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:40:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:40:48 <hhalpin> i.e. remove special formatting.
16:40:58 <ericP> PROPOSED: public UC3 as in  1.34
16:41:10 <angela_Unitn> +1
16:41:14 <ericP> APPROVED
16:41:14 <hhalpin> +1
16:41:20 <cygri> PROPOSAL: publish UC3 as in  1.34
16:41:26 <cygri> RESOLUTION: publish UC3 as in  1.34
16:43:47 <cygri> (ericP, Juan, MacTed discuss Juan's image)
16:43:54 <cygri> http://userweb.cs.utexas.edu/~jsequeda/rdb2rdf/
16:44:27 <cygri> mhausenblas: can you sort this out via email after the call?
16:44:56 <MacTed> +1
16:44:57 <cygri> ericP: PROPOSAL: keep the Approaches section as is, except for tweaking the image
16:45:02 <cygri> PROPOSAL: keep the Approaches section as is, except for tweaking the image
16:45:12 <juansequeda> +1
16:45:16 <cygri> RESOLUTION: keep the Approaches section as is, except for tweaking the image
16:45:24 <hhalpin> It does seem a bit repetivie with Section 4, so I'll +1 once I get to e-mail in some minor textual changes.
16:45:48 <alexander> alexander has joined #RDB2RDF
16:46:19 <cygri> hi alexander
16:47:02 <cygri> we're in the call, started 45min ago ...
16:47:31 <MacTed> 4.1.1 Direct Mapping -- RDB Schema to Local RDF Ontology
16:47:52 <MacTed> 4.1.2 Transformative Mapping -- RDB Schema to Domain RDF Ontology/ies
16:48:21 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change titles of 4.1.1and 4.1.2 as per MacTed above
16:48:23 <alexander> Hello, sorry, we though that the  conference was at 7PM our time
16:48:36 <MacTed> 4.1.2 *could* be   Tranformative Mapping -- Local RDF Ontology to Domain RDF Ontology/ies
16:48:41 <mhausenblas> alexander, did you receive the invitation mail?
16:48:56 <mhausenblas> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010May/0034.html alexander 
16:49:10 <mhausenblas> there is a link in this mail, see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=05&day=11&year=20
16:49:22 <mhausenblas> should be unambiguous ;) 
16:49:32 <cygri> alexander, this happens to everyone the first time ;-)
16:49:53 <alexander> Thank you, yes we received but for some reason we got confused with the times... sorry 
16:49:54 <mhausenblas> no worries, yeah, alexander - can you dail in now?
16:50:20 <alexander> yes we are trying to to do that now
16:50:33 <mhausenblas> ah, ok, alexander 
16:50:54 <hhalpin> -1 proforma schema
16:51:05 <hhalpin> we just need to "choose" terms.
16:51:21 <hhalpin> We should choose terms preferred by database community, NOT RDF community.
16:51:23 <cygri> MacTed: let's stick to local ontology and domain ontology
16:51:33 <cygri> ... if we simply state what they mean, it should be fine
16:51:34 <hhalpin> +1 MacTed
16:51:48 <hhalpin> I mean, most database administrators will likely have little idea what OWL is.
16:51:52 <seema> +1 Tes
16:52:12 <hhalpin> As long as we clearly define our terms and use the terms known by people in the database community.
16:52:28 <cygri> ericP: can we say "... convert to an RDF graph conforming to an ontology"?
16:53:13 <cygri> hhalpin: database people don't use terms like "graph conforming to an ontology"
16:53:33 <cygri> ericP: but do rdf people understand "local ontolgy" etc?
16:53:37 <hhalpin> Could someone from a database background speak-up?
16:53:56 <hhalpin> I'm happy with EricP's rewording to make it precise.
16:54:20 <LeeF> "instance data"
16:54:38 <hhalpin> +1 with Michael's terms,  and add clarifying text re local and domain ontology
16:54:41 <Zakim> + +49.133.6.aahh
16:54:41 <cygri> PROPOSAL: name 4.1.1 Direct Mapping, 4.1.2 Transformative Mapping
16:55:05 <cygri> Zakim, aahh is boris
16:55:05 <Zakim> +boris; got it
16:55:09 <ericP> +1
16:55:11 <cygri> +1
16:55:20 <ericP> RESOLVED
16:55:22 <cygri> RESOLUTION: name 4.1.1 Direct Mapping, 4.1.2 Transformative Mapping
16:56:39 <cygri> MacTed: identifiers are for machine use, labels are for human use
16:57:05 <cygri> ... create a glossary?
16:57:53 <cygri> PROPOSAL: add a glossary/terminology section as new Section 1.4, to clarify issues around identifier/label etc
16:58:07 <MacTed> identifier, label, local ontology, domain ontology ...
16:58:23 <hhalpin> My edits are all grammatical, minor edits to formatting.
16:58:45 <Marcelo> +1 for adding a glossary
16:59:11 <cygri> RESOLUTION: add a glossary/terminology section as new Section 1.4, to clarify issues around identifier/label etc
16:59:19 <hhalpin> Seems like glossary could also clarify the mapping between database terminology of local/domain ontology and SemWeb use of word ontology.
16:59:27 <hhalpin> +1 for adding glossary
17:00:20 <cygri> MacTed: connection information (jdbc etc) is implementation detail
17:00:48 <cygri> ericP: jdbc style for expressing that information can be used without jdbc drivers
17:01:30 <cygri> ericP: there can be user benefit in combining connection and map 
17:02:02 <cygri> MacTed: connection information is fine, but it should not show jdbc as example
17:02:20 <cygri> mhausenblas: doc does not mention jdbc
17:02:23 <cygri> MacTed: fine
17:03:22 <mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010May/0038.html
17:03:58 <cygri> ericP: we can live without more references for first publication
17:04:45 <ericP> PROPOSED: to dispatch Le Ma's comments http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010May/0038 after first publication
17:04:48 <ericP> +1
17:04:54 <ericP> APPROVED
17:04:55 <cygri> +1
17:04:58 <cygri> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:04:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html cygri
17:04:59 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: WG decides to publish the UCR document as FPWD with the corrections as resolved as today
17:05:18 <ericP> +1
17:05:19 <angela_Unitn> +1
17:05:30 <juansequeda> +1
17:05:31 <cygri> +1
17:05:32 <whalb> +1
17:05:32 <hhalpin> +1 (more minor editorial/grammatical changes to be sent in today)
17:05:33 <seema> +1
17:05:37 <Marcelo> +1
17:05:52 <cygri> RESOLUTION: WG decides to publish the UCR document as FPWD with the corrections as resolved as today
17:06:25 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
17:06:51 <hhalpin> hhalpin
17:07:13 <mhausenblas> ACTION: hhalpin to take fixed UCR document and publish as FPWD + TR URI
17:07:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-54 - Take fixed UCR document and publish as FPWD + TR URI [on Harry Halpin - due 2010-05-18].
17:07:40 <cygri> ericP: i'll just comment out the SQL stuff
17:07:44 <mhausenblas> s/Le Ma/Li Ma
17:07:50 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:07:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:08:05 <Zakim> - +039046128aagg
17:08:27 <cygri> ericP: are we happy to just publish and link to juan's images?
17:08:57 <cygri> ... don't want hosting of the images to be in the critical path towards publication
17:09:35 <hhalpin> +1 fixing image, but NOT have it linked outside of w3 space.,
17:09:43 <cygri> ... is rest of WG happy to accept whatever MacTed and juan come up with for the images?
17:09:51 <cygri> (no objections)
17:09:51 <Zakim> -whalb
17:09:51 <mhausenblas> [adjourned]
17:09:52 <Zakim> -seema
17:09:56 <Zakim> -Marcelo
17:09:59 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft mintues
17:09:59 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', mhausenblas.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:10:02 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:10:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:10:09 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list attendees
17:10:09 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +043316876aaaa, +1.781.273.aabb, +1.562.249.aacc, whalb, +1.603.897.aadd, MacTed, +1.512.471.aaee, hhalpin, Ashok_Malhotra, seema,
17:10:12 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:10:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:10:13 <Zakim> ... +3539149aaff, mhausenblas, cygri, EricP, Marcelo, +039046128aagg, +49.133.6.aahh, boris
17:10:42 <mhausenblas> rdb2rdf-ucr
17:13:11 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:13:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed, +1.512.471.aaee, mhausenblas, EricP, hhalpin, boris
17:13:13 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
17:13:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see alexander, juansequeda, seema, Zakim, RRSAgent, cygri, hhalpin, MacTed, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:14:39 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/06/xmlspec-report-v21.htm#AEN2221
17:19:53 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
17:19:55 <Zakim> -hhalpin
17:20:07 <Zakim> -EricP
17:20:37 <mhausenblas> Zakim, bye
17:20:37 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +043316876aaaa, +1.781.273.aabb, +1.562.249.aacc, whalb, +1.603.897.aadd, MacTed, +1.512.471.aaee, hhalpin, Ashok_Malhotra, seema,
17:20:37 <Zakim> Zakim has left #rdb2rdf
17:20:40 <Zakim> ... +3539149aaff, mhausenblas, cygri, EricP, Marcelo, +039046128aagg, +49.133.6.aahh, boris
17:20:46 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye
17:20:46 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-actions.rdf :
17:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: hhalpin to take fixed UCR document and publish as FPWD + TR URI [1]
17:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-07-13