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18:58:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
18:58:49 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
18:58:50 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
18:58:50 <trackbot> Date: 03 May 2010
18:59:09 <richardschwerdtfe> Zakim, this will be 92473
18:59:09 <Zakim> ok, richardschwerdtfe; I see WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
19:01:25 <MichaelC> zakim, this is canvas
19:01:25 <Zakim> ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM
19:01:29 <richardschwerdtfe> passcode is 92473
19:02:04 <richardschwerdtfe> meeting: W3C HTML Canvas Accessibility Meeting
19:02:33 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
19:02:44 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla has David_Bolter
19:02:44 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
19:03:26 <davidb> jongunderson, are you dialing in?
19:03:52 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/0016.html
19:05:18 <richardschwerdtfe> scribe: MichaelC
19:05:45 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/att-0003/2dcontext10-Apr-11.html
19:06:09 <richardschwerdtfe> Topic: Canvas API proposal for focus and caret tracking
19:06:40 <MichaelC> rs: think that API should be easy to use
19:06:45 <MichaelC> db: yes
19:06:52 <MichaelC> magnifiers should be able to track
19:06:59 <MichaelC> rs: any other issues with proposal?
19:07:04 <MichaelC> db: not sure
19:07:46 <MichaelC> hoped for input from others
19:08:26 <MichaelC> context for interpreting doc?
19:08:32 <MichaelC> rs: Mac platform doesn't have a caret
19:09:53 <MichaelC> so drawFocusRing allows to locate focus
19:10:01 <MichaelC> also have a blink rate adjustment
19:10:28 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/0016.html
19:11:32 <MichaelC> the entre focus and caret selection management section is redone
19:12:19 <MichaelC> <reads from proposal>
19:13:23 <davidb> rich you have "within the user agent within the user agent"
19:14:10 <davidb> do we need this line "This method only draws the focus ring if the element is focused or is a descendant of the element with focus, so that it can simply be called whenever drawing the element, without checking whether the element is focused or not first"?
19:15:31 <davidb> yeah this needs edits "If the drawCustomRing argument is true, then"...
19:15:59 <MichaelC> requirements allowing AT to have their needs met
19:18:30 <MichaelC> and accommodating varying caret handling
19:18:42 <MichaelC> db: sounds like a good 100% solution; worried about it a bit
19:18:59 <MichaelC> rs: at least we allow author to do this, even though they might not
19:19:07 <MichaelC> db: prefer to give author a solution they will use
19:19:34 <MichaelC> rs: yeah; looked at an alternative but we all knew authors wouldn't do it
19:19:41 <MichaelC> db: this section is looking clearer to me now
19:19:53 <MichaelC> need to get everybody to read it and then discuss
19:20:50 <MichaelC> rs: difficult to set a date for delivery because people aren't responding to requests for review
19:21:01 <MichaelC> think we could wrap this up in two weeks if people participate
19:21:29 <MichaelC> need to discourage people from doing text editing n canvas
19:22:59 <MichaelC> mc: think we need to set a date that is serious
19:23:18 <MichaelC> and convey to everyone that the window closes after that date, task force must submit something on that date
19:23:40 <MichaelC> there would be opportunity for further work afterwards, but it would be a different aspect of the process
19:24:11 <MichaelC> rs: <thinking through steps, edits to make, review cycles
19:24:52 <MichaelC> let's plan to wrap this up by 24 May internally
19:25:02 <MichaelC> take to poll for 27 May
19:25:05 <davidb> sounds good
19:25:12 <MichaelC> deliver to HTML for 3 June
19:26:35 <MichaelC> mc: suggest we send this proposed schedule to the canvas group
19:26:49 <MichaelC> ask for objections before 13 May
19:26:56 <MichaelC> after that, the dates are set
19:27:30 <MichaelC> we'll all need to convey the importance of sticking to this schedule
19:28:27 <MichaelC> rs: run by Alex Surkov?
19:28:32 <davidb> sure
19:28:38 <MichaelC> db: would have a lot of questions...
19:28:47 <MichaelC> rs: will copy him in
19:28:52 <MichaelC> will make editorial tweaks
19:28:58 <MichaelC> and send this around
19:29:20 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log public
19:30:42 <Zakim> -[Mozilla]
19:30:46 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
19:30:49 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
19:30:51 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(CANVAS)3:00PM has ended
19:30:53 <Zakim> Attendees were Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Michael_Cooper, David_Bolter
19:31:02 <richardschwerdtfe> chair: Rich
19:31:07 <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -final
19:31:15 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
19:31:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/03-html-a11y-minutes.html MichaelC
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