IRC log of svg on 2010-04-29

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG
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ok, trackbot, I see GA_SVGWG()10:30AM already started
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Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 29 April 2010
14:30:26 [ed]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0043.html
14:30:42 [jwatt]
Zakim, who's on the call
14:30:42 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who's on the call', jwatt
14:30:52 [ed]
agenda+, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0147.html
14:31:17 [Zakim]
+??P36
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-??P36
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+??P36
14:31:29 [jwatt]
Zakim, who's here?
14:31:29 [Zakim]
On the phone I see ??P35, ??P36
14:31:31 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, ed, anthony, jwatt, ed_work, trackbot
14:31:35 [ed]
Zakim, ??P36 is me
14:31:35 [Zakim]
+ed; got it
14:31:43 [jwatt]
Zakim: ?? is me
14:31:59 [jwatt]
Zakim: ??P25 is me
14:32:09 [jwatt]
Zakim, ??P25 is me
14:32:09 [Zakim]
I already had ??P25 as Steven, jwatt
14:32:19 [jwatt]
Zakim, ??P35 is me
14:32:19 [Zakim]
+jwatt; got it
14:33:24 [jwatt]
yeah, like the black death
14:34:23 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
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14:35:29 [anthony]
Zakim, [IP is me
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+anthony; got it
14:41:37 [Zakim]
+[Microsoft]
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14:42:43 [ed]
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Brussels%2C_Belgium_F2F
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topic: F2F meeting
14:43:41 [pdengler]
pdengler: Address for EBC Brussels
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Avenue des Nerviens 85
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1040 Brussels
14:45:00 [ed]
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=110476736854827266937.0004840b3e8cb8909a93c&ll=50.866428,4.394531&spn=0.130659,0.235863&z=12
14:45:20 [pdengler]
pdengler: http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/c/7/9c77a3eb-1778-405f-ade8-1d601e260af4/brussels_directions.doc
14:46:52 [pdengler]
Hotel for the 24th and June 1st : http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brudt-brussels-marriott-hotel/
14:49:40 [pdengler]
Rue Auguste Orts 3-7/Grand Place
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Brussels, 1000 Belgium
14:50:12 [ed]
Ok, wikipage updated to say 24 May - 1 June 2010
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Rue Du Parnasse 19, Brussels 1050 BE
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http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Brussels,_Belgium_F2F#Location
14:58:31 [anthony]
Ortsstraat 1 Auguste 1000 Brussel, Belgium
15:02:53 [ed]
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Brussels,_Belgium_F2F#Location
15:04:27 [ed]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0043.html
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Topic: 1.1F2 updates
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ED: have done changes to the testsuite, no spec updates
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... saw CL did some checkins on funciri syntax
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... asks for moving the deadline
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PD: that would be good
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ED: agreed
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... move deadline one week ahead, May 7
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Topic: Removing paragraph about calcmode=paced for animateTransform
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AG: wasn't that brought up by someone else too?
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... I can do that
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ACTION: AG to remove the paragraph mentioned in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0141.html in SVG 1.1F2
15:08:53 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-2777 - Remove the paragraph mentioned in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0141.html in SVG 1.1F2 [on Anthony Grasso - due 2010-05-06].
15:09:25 [ed]
Topic: fonts-elem-05
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0147.html
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ED: I think we should backport the test from 1.2T, since the 1.1 test is rather pointless (doesn't test what it says it's testing)
15:11:26 [ed]
ACTION: ed to backport fonts-elem-05-t.svg from 1.2T to 1.1F2
15:11:26 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-2778 - Backport fonts-elem-05-t.svg from 1.2T to 1.1F2 [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-06].
15:12:03 [pdengler]
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
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<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd">
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<svg xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="12.5in" height="7.625in" viewBox="0 0 900 549" xml:space="preserve" color-interpolation-filters="sRGB" class="st26">
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<style type="text/css">
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rect:hover {fill: yellow}
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Topic: discussion about use
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</style>
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<g id="blueRect" >
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<rect x="18" y="68" width="261" height="81" class="blueStyle" />
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</g>
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<use xlink:href="#blueRect" x="0 " y="100" />
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</svg>
15:13:21 [ed]
PD: in opera all rects turn yellow when hovering the rect
15:13:58 [ed]
...in webkit if you hover the first rect it turns yellow, if you hover the second nothing happens
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...in firefox if you hover over a rect it turns yellow regardless of it's a use or not
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... i think firefox does it right, but IE have it implemented like webkit now, doens't feel right
15:16:42 [ed]
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/ua-tests/
15:17:53 [ed]
ED: do you expect all the pseudoclasses work the same way?
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...or just the :hover one
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PD: all of them as if the elements were cloned
15:19:32 [ed]
JW: if I have external resources then probably the style doesn't make sense to apply to those <use>'s
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...depends on the person's usecase
15:20:46 [ed]
PD: what would you expect to happen in such a scenario? (the library one9
15:20:58 [ed]
JW: wouldn't want the style to apply to the library
15:22:28 [ed]
... the inline case is probably more common
15:24:58 [ed]
ED: would like more tests regarding <use>, does microsoft have more tests to contribute in this area?
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PD: will ask
15:26:26 [ed]
ED: would be interested in seeing if there are differences between pseudoclass selectors and normal selectors on shadowtrees
15:28:13 [ed]
topic: public-fx
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ED: since the publicfx telcon moved the timeslot let's cancel the svgwg monday telcon
15:29:09 [Zakim]
-[Microsoft]
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-ed
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-jwatt
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-anthony
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GA_SVGWG()10:30AM has ended
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Attendees were ed, jwatt, [IPcaller], anthony, [Microsoft]
15:31:50 [ed]
Zakim, bye
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/29-svg-minutes.html ed
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