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16:08:15 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
16:08:15 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 22 minutes
16:08:26 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
16:08:34 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
16:08:37 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
16:08:51 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Apr/0005.html
16:09:00 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:09:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-minutes.html aphillip
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16:28:43 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has now started
16:28:50 <Zakim> +Addison_Phillips
16:30:05 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:30:05 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:30:06 <Zakim> +Richard
16:31:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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16:36:03 <aphillip> Regrets: David
16:36:28 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes and Agenda review
16:37:46 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: invite Mark to participate in the calendaring call with an explanatory email
16:37:59 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
16:38:33 <aphillip> Aharon: send to our mail list list of issues ready for HTML-WG and list of issues to address in our document 
16:38:54 <aphillip> richard: aharon sent me a list that was not complete but partial... let's discuss later
16:38:59 <aphillip> DONE
16:39:21 <aphillip> addison: prepare blurb on -u- extension for i18n homepage 
16:39:24 <aphillip> not done
16:39:45 <aphillip> Norbert: respond to DAP WG with a more comprehensive description of the problem of converting calendars and invite further conversation (shared telecon ??) 
16:39:46 <aphillip> DONE
16:39:55 <aphillip> ichard: write to html-wg expressing support for editor's changes and pointing out the oversight in description of <meta> C-L's structure 
16:39:58 <aphillip> DONE
16:40:12 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:40:39 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/list-encoding-html-css
16:40:48 <aphillip> richard: set of new tests (see above link)
16:40:51 <aphillip> ... for character encodings
16:40:55 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/list-language
16:41:06 <aphillip> ... and a list of rewritten tests for language delcarations
16:41:14 <aphillip> ... now includes tests for empty language value
16:41:25 <aphillip> ... could be useful in our discussions with Leif et al
16:41:51 <aphillip> ... IE and FF override properly, while Safari et al do not
16:42:14 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/tests-language-declarations/results-language-declarations
16:42:15 <aphillip> ... results for all of the major browsers
16:42:26 <aphillip> ... tests now include HTML5 and XHTML5
16:42:39 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/tests-character-encoding/results-html-encoding-basic
16:43:04 <aphillip> Topic: Issue-88 response
16:43:18 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Apr/0308.html
16:43:39 <r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Apr/0308.html
16:51:29 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: write email to public-html endorsing richard's response (and IanH's proposal deprecating Content-Language) as the WG position
16:51:51 <aphillip> Topic: Bidi WG Note progress
16:52:53 <aphillip> richard: has done appreciable work on a list of issues for HTML
16:53:35 <aphillip> ... maybe we should just have notes in the document
16:53:41 <aphillip> ... instead of a list
16:55:06 <aphillip> addison to ping Aharon for status update
16:56:28 <aphillip> Topic: Date input in HTML5
16:56:37 <aphillip> addison recognizes David Clarke's email
16:57:04 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Apr/0004.html
16:57:14 <aphillip> add to agenda for next week
16:57:39 <aphillip> Topic: encoding tutorial
16:57:47 <aphillip> richard: working on it again
16:58:09 <aphillip> ... working on tests has helped me get a handle on what is supported, etc.
16:58:20 <aphillip> ... one thing I'm going to say, I think are....
16:58:29 <aphillip> ... the BOM works and HTML5 allows it to work
16:58:46 <aphillip> ... and it takes precendence (I will say also declare for usability)
16:59:02 <aphillip> ... I will wind down significance of avoiding BOM
17:00:24 <aphillip> addison: maybe deemphasize, but don't eliminate recommendation against BOM?
17:02:29 <aphillip> richard: another thing that will change is emphasis on avoiding xml document declaration
17:02:43 <aphillip> ... only legacy browsers are a problem here (IE 6 basically)
17:02:51 <aphillip> ... so level of worry not that high any more
17:03:07 <aphillip> norbert: but yahoo finds that's not quite true yet
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17:07:34 <aphillip> richard: already took out section on quirks mode
17:07:41 <aphillip> ... reduced to just a couple of paragraphs
17:09:04 <aphillip> richard: will send out pretty soon for review
17:10:11 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
17:10:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:10:54 <Zakim> -Norbert
17:10:57 <Zakim> -aphillip
17:10:59 <Zakim> -andrewc
17:11:00 <Zakim> -Felix
17:11:05 <Zakim> -Richard
17:11:06 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has ended
17:11:08 <Zakim> Attendees were aphillip, Richard, [IPcaller], Felix, andrewc, +1.408.349.aaaa, Norbert
17:11:17 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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17:11:24 <aphillip> RRSAgent, makei minutes
17:11:24 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'makei minutes', aphillip.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:11:31 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:11:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:11:39 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
17:11:39 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-actions.rdf :
17:11:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: invite Mark to participate in the calendaring call with an explanatory email [1]
17:11:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-irc#T16-37-46
17:11:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: write email to public-html endorsing richard's response (and IanH's proposal deprecating Content-Language) as the WG position [2]
17:11:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-irc#T16-51-29