IRC log of sparql on 2010-04-20
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 77277
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- ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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- Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 20 April 2010
- 13:57:53 [LeeF]
- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-04-20
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- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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- + +03539149aaaa
- 13:58:56 [AxelPolleres]
- Zakim, aaaa is me
- 13:58:56 [Zakim]
- +AxelPolleres; got it
- 13:59:01 [Zakim]
- + +1.518.276.aabb
- 13:59:02 [kasei]
- heh
- 13:59:06 [Zakim]
- + +0186528aacc
- 13:59:07 [kasei]
- Zakim, aabb is me
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- +kasei; got it
- 13:59:21 [bglimm]
- Zakim, +0186528aacc is me
- 13:59:21 [Zakim]
- +bglimm; got it
- 13:59:31 [Zakim]
- +??P14
- 13:59:34 [Zakim]
- +Lee_Feigenbaum
- 13:59:35 [bglimm]
- Zakim, why don't you recognize me any more?
- 13:59:35 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, bglimm.
- 13:59:39 [AndyS1]
- zakim, ??P14 is me
- 13:59:39 [Zakim]
- +AndyS1; got it
- 13:59:51 [LeeF]
- zakim, mute me please
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- Lee_Feigenbaum should now be muted
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- + +49.238.aadd
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- + +0208439aaee
- 14:00:06 [Souri]
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- 14:00:11 [LeeF]
- Chair: AxelPolleres
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- - +0208439aaee
- 14:00:27 [SteveH]
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- 14:00:28 [ivan]
- zakim, dial ivan-voip
- 14:00:28 [Zakim]
- ok, ivan; the call is being made
- 14:00:28 [OlivierCorby]
- Zakim, aadd is me
- 14:00:29 [AxelPolleres]
- trackbot, start meeting
- 14:00:30 [Zakim]
- +OlivierCorby; got it
- 14:00:30 [Zakim]
- +Ivan
- 14:00:31 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, make logs world
- 14:00:33 [trackbot]
- Zakim, this will be 77277
- 14:00:33 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now
- 14:00:34 [trackbot]
- Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
- 14:00:34 [trackbot]
- Date: 20 April 2010
- 14:00:35 [bglimm]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:00:35 [Zakim]
- sorry, bglimm, I don't know what conference this is
- 14:00:41 [LeeF]
- zakim, this is SPARQl
- 14:00:41 [Zakim]
- ok, LeeF; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
- 14:00:45 [LeeF]
- zakim, mute bglimm
- 14:00:45 [Zakim]
- bglimm should now be muted
- 14:00:46 [bglimm]
- Zakim, this is SPARQL
- 14:00:47 [Zakim]
- bglimm, this was already SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
- 14:00:49 [Zakim]
- ok, bglimm; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
- 14:00:50 [chimezie]
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- 14:00:56 [bglimm]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:00:56 [Zakim]
- bglimm was already muted, bglimm
- 14:01:10 [chimezie]
- Zakim, what is the passcode?
- 14:01:10 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie
- 14:01:10 [AxelPolleres]
- chime, will you be able to scribe?
- 14:01:13 [Zakim]
- + +1.603.897.aagg
- 14:01:13 [chimezie]
- yes
- 14:01:30 [Souri]
- zakim, aagg is Souri
- 14:01:30 [Zakim]
- +Souri; got it
- 14:01:43 [Zakim]
- +Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 14:01:45 [SteveH]
- Zakim, who's on the phone
- 14:01:45 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who's on the phone', SteveH
- 14:01:50 [SteveH]
- Zakim, who's on the phone?
- 14:01:51 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AxelPolleres, kasei, bglimm (muted), AndyS1, Lee_Feigenbaum (muted), OlivierCorby, Ivan, +0208439aaff, Souri, Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 14:01:54 [MattPerry]
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- 14:02:08 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-04-20
- 14:02:12 [SteveH]
- Zakim, aaff is [Garlik]
- 14:02:12 [Zakim]
- +[Garlik]; got it
- 14:02:13 [LeeF]
- zakim, who's speaking?
- 14:02:15 [AndyS1]
- zakim, AndyS1 is AndyS
- 14:02:15 [Zakim]
- +AndyS; got it
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- 14:02:25 [SteveH]
- loud typing
- 14:02:29 [Zakim]
- LeeF, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 10 (26%), AndyS1 (53%)
- 14:02:29 [AxelPolleres]
- scribe: Chimezie Ogbuji
- 14:02:52 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-04-13
- 14:02:52 [Zakim]
- +??P25
- 14:03:13 [MattPerry]
- zakim, ??P25 is me
- 14:03:13 [Zakim]
- +MattPerry; got it
- 14:03:15 [SteveH]
- Zakim, [Garlik] is temporarily SteveH
- 14:03:17 [Zakim]
- +SteveH; got it
- 14:03:20 [AxelPolleres]
- PROPOSED: approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-04-13
- 14:03:33 [LeeF]
- minutes look good to me
- 14:03:48 [AxelPolleres]
- RESOLVED: approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-04-13
- 14:04:15 [AxelPolleres]
- Next meeting: 2010-04-27 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST
- 14:04:26 [LeeF]
- my regrets for next week
- 14:04:34 [ivan]
- regrets next week
- 14:04:36 [chimezie]
- Axel: I can scribe and chair if necessary
- 14:04:36 [LeeF]
- David
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- Alex did last week
- 14:04:46 [LeeF]
- err, not David
- 14:05:01 [ivan]
- I hope to be at WWW (volcano willing)
- 14:05:02 [AxelPolleres]
- Zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:05:02 [LeeF]
- OlivierCorby, can you scribe next week?
- 14:05:03 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AxelPolleres, kasei, bglimm (muted), AndyS, Lee_Feigenbaum (muted), OlivierCorby, Ivan, SteveH, Souri, Chimezie_Ogbuji, MattPerry
- 14:05:38 [AxelPolleres]
- next time scribing Olivier
- 14:05:51 [chimezie]
- Next: comments
- 14:05:55 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: comments
- 14:05:57 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
- 14:06:03 [chimezie]
- Need to progress through comments
- 14:06:13 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Apr/0000.html
- 14:06:17 [kasei]
- i've tacked that onto my other NH comments.
- 14:06:26 [Zakim]
- + +1.919.332.aahh
- 14:06:32 [kasei]
- they all sort of belong together
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- 14:06:47 [kasei]
- sure
- 14:06:56 [dcharbon2]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:06:56 [Zakim]
- sorry, dcharbon2, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
- 14:06:59 [AxelPolleres]
- greg takes care
- 14:07:03 [dcharbon2]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:07:03 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AxelPolleres, kasei, bglimm (muted), AndyS, Lee_Feigenbaum (muted), OlivierCorby, Ivan, SteveH, Souri, Chimezie_Ogbuji, MattPerry, +1.919.332.aahh
- 14:07:11 [dcharbon2]
- zakim, aahh is me
- 14:07:11 [Zakim]
- +dcharbon2; got it
- 14:07:16 [LeeF]
- RDB2RDF is close to publishing a UC&R document
- 14:07:19 [chimezie]
- Axel: Liasons. Anything to report?
- 14:08:16 [chimezie]
- Souri: going over usecase, not final yet, but coming close
- 14:08:19 [AxelPolleres]
- Souri: RDB2RDF will soon have UC doc
- 14:08:23 [kasei]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:08:23 [Zakim]
- kasei should now be muted
- 14:08:27 [AxelPolleres]
- Axel: we might want to review
- 14:08:33 [dcharbon2]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:08:33 [Zakim]
- dcharbon2 should now be muted
- 14:08:50 [Zakim]
- +??P35
- 14:08:53 [chimezie]
- Axel: Wording for conditions on entailment regimes
- 14:09:01 [AlexPassant]
- Zakim, ??P35 is me
- 14:09:01 [Zakim]
- +AlexPassant; got it
- 14:09:13 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: entailment conditions rewordings
- 14:09:13 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0030.html
- 14:09:26 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:09:38 [AxelPolleres]
- birte?
- 14:10:17 [LeeF]
- I was happy with the latest proposed text (per the mailing list)
- 14:10:19 [chimezie]
- Axel: 1st condition. SG G is uniquely specified and E-equivalent to regime
- 14:10:39 [chimezie]
- ... need to be specific about graph equivalence
- 14:11:09 [AndyS]
- ?? If the bnode labels differ, OPTIONAL does not work?
- 14:11:25 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/mid/z2i492f2b0b1004190346k2f1eb1f3z67eeb0d5071dfc22@mail.gmail.com
- 14:12:11 [AxelPolleres]
- "uniquely" --> "uniquely up to RDF graph equivalence"
- 14:12:13 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:12:14 [chimezie]
- Axel: added 'uniquely up to RDF graph equivalence'
- 14:12:43 [bglimm]
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- 14:12:45 [chimezie]
- AndyS: how does this work with the rest of the algebra?
- 14:12:52 [bglimm]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:12:52 [Zakim]
- bglimm should no longer be muted
- 14:13:04 [chimezie]
- ... what about use of OPTIONAL, how do you roundtrip the blank nodes properly?
- 14:13:26 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:15:00 [chimezie]
- Axel: SG is always determined before hand
- 14:15:00 [chimezie]
- ... so, blank nodes could differ from AG but uniquely determined module bnode mapping
- 14:15:02 [AndyS]
- OK - I understand now
- 14:15:11 [AxelPolleres]
- Axel: I understoo that the SG is unique for the whole query
- 14:15:32 [AndyS]
- No need to change the text proposed.
- 14:15:38 [AxelPolleres]
- ... do we need to stress that?
- 14:16:20 [chimezie]
- AndyS: fine with condition 1 as it is now
- 14:16:47 [chimezie]
- Axel: Each extension provides conditions to ensure finite answers
- 14:16:58 [chimezie]
- ... 1) finiteness 2) uniqueness up to blank node rephrasing
- 14:16:59 [bglimm]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0055.html
- 14:17:31 [bglimm]
- change from
- 14:17:31 [bglimm]
- 4 -- Each SPARQL extension must provide conditions on answer sets
- 14:17:31 [bglimm]
- which guarantee that every BGP and AG has a finite set of answers
- 14:17:31 [bglimm]
- which is unique up to RDF graph equivalence.
- 14:17:32 [bglimm]
- to
- 14:17:32 [bglimm]
- 4 -- Each SPARQL extension MUST provide conditions, which guarantee
- 14:17:34 [bglimm]
- that the answer set for every BGP and AG is uniquely specified up to
- 14:17:36 [bglimm]
- RDF graph equivalence, and SHOULD provide further conditions to
- 14:17:38 [bglimm]
- prevent trivial infinite answers as appropriate to the regime.
- 14:19:04 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:20:27 [chimezie]
- bglimm: need to say what the SG is and then what inferences you make, and then ensure the answers are the same where the only difference is blank node renaming
- 14:20:49 [Zakim]
- + +1.312.863.aaii
- 14:20:50 [chimezie]
- AndyS: what is the role of blank nodes in SG, how can they vary?
- 14:20:57 [AxelPolleres]
- q+ to ask about blank nodes
- 14:20:59 [chimezie]
- bglimm: you can invent new ones
- 14:21:09 [pgearon]
- Zakim, aaii is me
- 14:21:09 [Zakim]
- +pgearon; got it
- 14:23:33 [chimezie]
- P(BGP) is the answer set 'graph'
- 14:25:06 [AxelPolleres]
- I think we can resolve on condition 1... we need a wording for condition 4.
- 14:25:09 [bglimm]
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- 14:25:47 [chimezie]
- Axel: should we take this to the ML
- 14:25:48 [bglimm]
- bglimm has joined #sparql
- 14:26:01 [AxelPolleres]
- PROPOSED: change Condition 1 as suggested in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0055.html
- 14:26:35 [bglimm]
- 1 -- The scoping graph, SG, corresponding to any consistent active
- 14:26:35 [bglimm]
- graph AG is specified uniquely up to RDF graph equivalence and is
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- E-equivalent to AG.
- 14:26:56 [bglimm]
- +1
- 14:27:09 [AxelPolleres]
- RESOLVED: change Condition 1 as suggested in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0055.html
- 14:27:36 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Birte to reformulate Condition 4
- 14:27:36 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-221 - Reformulate Condition 4 [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-04-27].
- 14:27:55 [chimezie]
- Axel: next on agenda - issue 49
- 14:27:56 [bglimm]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:27:58 [Zakim]
- bglimm should now be muted
- 14:28:11 [chimezie]
- ... Graphs as information resources, etc.
- 14:28:12 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: ISSUE-49
- 14:28:13 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0048.html
- 14:28:34 [kasei]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:28:34 [Zakim]
- kasei should no longer be muted
- 14:29:05 [chimezie]
- Greg: I brought this up on behalf of Kjetl
- 14:29:11 [AndyS]
- "Information resource" => "A resource which has the property that all of its essential characteristics can be conveyed in a message." (AWWW)
- 14:29:14 [chimezie]
- ... the definitions are loose, the wording should be cleared up
- 14:29:35 [chimezie]
- ... distinction between graphs and IRI used to reference the graph or the IR serialized by the graph
- 14:29:48 [chimezie]
- ... terminology is confusing
- 14:29:50 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:29:56 [AxelPolleres]
- ack me
- 14:29:56 [Zakim]
- AxelPolleres, you wanted to ask about blank nodes
- 14:29:58 [chimezie]
- ... need to clear up the language
- 14:30:21 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/#http-get
- 14:31:39 [ivan]
- there is no serialization involved, is there?
- 14:31:55 [chimezie]
- ... the distinction is important with regards to http-range-4
- 14:32:25 [ivan]
- q+
- 14:32:25 [chimezie]
- Axel: assumed that the issue was the use of the word equivalence
- 14:32:35 [AlexPassant]
- s/4/14
- 14:33:14 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010AprJun/0065.html
- 14:33:27 [AxelPolleres]
- This is equivalent to the following SPARQL query:
- 14:33:27 [AxelPolleres]
-
- 14:33:28 [AxelPolleres]
- CONSTRUCT { ?s ?p ?o } WHERE { GRAPH <graph_uri> { ?s ?p ?o } }
- 14:33:29 [chimezie]
- ... in the SPARQL 1.0 document, there is some confusion but it the uri does not reference the graph
- 14:33:45 [ivan]
- q-
- 14:33:48 [AxelPolleres]
- "This may be viewed equivalent to the following SPARQL query:
- 14:33:48 [AxelPolleres]
- CONSTRUCT { ?s ?p ?o } WHERE { GRAPH <graph_uri> { ?s ?p ?o } }
- 14:33:49 [AxelPolleres]
- posed to a SPARQL endpoint which had any Web retrievable RDF graph in it's
- 14:33:49 [AxelPolleres]
- <a href="referencetodefinition of Graph store in Update 1.1">Graph store</a>.
- 14:33:49 [AxelPolleres]
- "
- 14:34:24 [kasei]
- <graph_uri>
- 14:35:50 [kasei]
- from SPARQL 1.0:
- 14:35:53 [kasei]
- """The FROM NAMED syntax suggests that the IRI identifies the corresponding graph, but the relationship between an IRI and a graph in an RDF dataset is indirect. The IRI identifies a resource, and the resource is represented by a graph (or, more precisely: by a document that serializes a graph)."""
- 14:39:59 [chimezie]
- "We recall from [SPARQL] that IRIs for RDF graphs in SPARQL queries identify a resource, and the resource is represented by a graph (or, more precisely: by a document that serializes a graph)"
- 14:40:38 [kasei]
- +1 AndyS
- 14:43:29 [kasei]
- the trouble is the parenthetical
- 14:43:40 [kasei]
- AndyS is talking about the parenthetical, Chimezie about the thing right before it.
- 14:44:23 [AxelPolleres]
- could we type in a rephrasing?
- 14:45:05 [kasei]
- just merging the parenthetical back into the sentence would be a good start.
- 14:45:20 [Zakim]
- -AlexPassant
- 14:46:46 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: chime to propose rewordings on mailinglist on http-protocol which clarify ISSUE-49
- 14:46:47 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-222 - Propose rewordings on mailinglist on http-protocol which clarify ISSUE-49 [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2010-04-27].
- 14:46:58 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:47:34 [Zakim]
- +??P35
- 14:47:36 [AlexPassant]
- Zakim, ??P35 is me
- 14:47:36 [Zakim]
- +AlexPassant; got it
- 14:47:52 [kasei]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:47:52 [Zakim]
- kasei should now be muted
- 14:48:13 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-update/#sec_graphStore
- 14:49:24 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:50:08 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: test suite
- 14:50:29 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html
- 14:50:37 [Zakim]
- -AndyS
- 14:51:39 [chimezie]
- Axel: will need multiple manifests for testing framework
- 14:52:16 [chimezie]
- ... keep SPARQL 1.0 test cases as is and extend for 1.1 features?
- 14:53:17 [chimezie]
- ... my proposal is to include reference to old test cases - copying old manifest - and create new subdirectories for 1.1 features
- 14:53:25 [chimezie]
- ... but still only have 1 manifest file that extends the old one
- 14:53:58 [chimezie]
- Axel: what to do about update test cases?
- 14:54:27 [chimezie]
- ... update evaluation test cases need to cover different kinds of results: errors, results, etc..
- 14:54:40 [chimezie]
- ... need to also describe before and after status of the graph store
- 14:55:03 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html
- 14:56:21 [AxelPolleres]
- ut:unnamedGraph, ut:namedGraph
- 14:56:40 [AxelPolleres]
- ut:graph
- 14:56:44 [AxelPolleres]
- ut:named
- 14:57:11 [AxelPolleres]
- objections? comments?
- 14:57:34 [AxelPolleres]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 14:57:34 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 14:57:55 [bglimm]
- I'll look and see how entailments could fit in
- 14:57:58 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: chime to look over http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html
- 14:57:58 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-223 - Look over http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2010-04-27].
- 14:58:25 [kasei]
- when are we scheduled for next publication?
- 14:58:32 [AndyS1]
- AndyS1 has joined #sparql
- 14:59:46 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: axel to check with editors what's the status of docs wrt. publication schedule
- 14:59:46 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-224 - Check with editors what's the status of docs wrt. publication schedule [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-04-27].
- 14:59:46 [Zakim]
- -bglimm
- 15:00:36 [AxelPolleres]
- summary: next time discuss Fed queries and publication schedule, all editors, let us know how far you are wrt. publication of next round!
- 15:00:46 [MattPerry]
- quit
- 15:00:46 [Zakim]
- -Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 15:00:47 [ivan]
- zakim, drop me
- 15:00:47 [Zakim]
- -Souri
- 15:00:47 [Zakim]
- -dcharbon2
- 15:00:47 [Zakim]
- -SteveH
- 15:00:48 [Zakim]
- Ivan is being disconnected
- 15:00:48 [Zakim]
- -Ivan
- 15:00:49 [Zakim]
- -kasei
- 15:00:51 [Zakim]
- -pgearon
- 15:00:51 [AxelPolleres]
- chair: axel polleres
- 15:00:59 [Zakim]
- -OlivierCorby
- 15:01:01 [Zakim]
- -Lee_Feigenbaum
- 15:01:03 [Zakim]
- -MattPerry
- 15:01:04 [AxelPolleres]
- rrsagent, make records public
- 15:01:13 [Zakim]
- -AlexPassant
- 15:01:15 [Zakim]
- -AxelPolleres
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- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +03539149aaaa, AxelPolleres, +1.518.276.aabb, kasei, bglimm, Lee_Feigenbaum, +49.238.aadd, +0208439aaee, OlivierCorby, Ivan, +0208439aaff, +1.603.897.aagg, Souri,
- 15:01:21 [kasei]
- sandro, any eta on the service description graph naming issue response?
- 15:01:28 [Zakim]
- ... Chimezie_Ogbuji, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH, +1.919.332.aahh, dcharbon2, AlexPassant, +1.312.863.aaii, pgearon
- 15:02:14 [AxelPolleres]
- CTION: axel to fix the example in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html
- 15:02:18 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: axel to fix the example in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html
- 15:02:18 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-225 - Fix the example in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-04-27].
- 15:02:21 [AxelPolleres]
- adjourned
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- member:rrsagent, make records public
- 15:02:40 [AxelPolleres]
- rrsagent, make records public
- 15:11:59 [LeeF]
- Are there any XML schema datatypes that have a value space that maintains precision (i.e. lexical forms "2.0" and "2.00" correspond to different values)?
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- 15:17:20 [kasei]
- ick
- 15:17:23 [SteveH]
- LeeF, string :)
- 15:20:00 [kasei]
- haha
- 15:20:54 [LeeF]
- oy
- 15:21:00 [LeeF]
- what should i tell my scientist users? :)
- 15:21:59 [SteveH]
- they should relax? ;)
- 15:22:11 [LeeF]
- lol
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- 15:24:10 [LeeF]
- I'm going to tell them to call you, Steve.
- 15:32:27 [kasei]
- LeeF, why are you constrained to XSD? If you've got specific needs, why not make your own?
- 16:12:05 [LeeF]
- because i don't want to invent a wheel on my own
- 16:12:45 [LeeF]
- i've got a bunch of software based around RDF (which means XSD as the basis for literal typing), and I'd like to support a use case that requires this, but it's not the core of what i do :)
- 16:24:21 [SteveH]
- if they have "12.000"^^sci:number they can cast as appropriate
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- 19:10:33 [kasei]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:NH-1
- 19:10:37 [kasei]
- anyone want to glance over that?
- 19:12:04 [kasei]
- Mostly concerned about the last paragraph. Not sure it's exactly "beyond the scope" of the SD work, but it's never been discussed before and I'm not sure there are any implementations (except NH's week-old one which brought up the issue) which do it.
- 19:12:38 [kasei]
- so worried about the timing and feature creep
- 19:20:23 [LeeF]
- trackbot, close ACTION-189
- 19:20:23 [trackbot]
- ACTION-189 Get back to ivanh on the usabuility of POWDER for SD. closed
- 19:20:26 [LeeF]
- trackbot, close ACTION-214
- 19:20:26 [trackbot]
- ACTION-214 Add ability to mark individual graphs with their entailment regime closed
- 19:22:19 [LeeF]
- kasei, I think that response is fine
- 19:22:40 [kasei]
- ok. the one thing I haven't addressed yet is his question about indicating parsable formats.
- 19:22:55 [kasei]
- we're now doing result formats, but not parsing formats.
- 19:23:11 [kasei]
- hesitant to keep adding things, but does seem like a strange asymmetry.
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