IRC log of html-wg on 2010-04-01

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Zakim, this will be HTML
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Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
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Date: 01 April 2010
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HTML matches both HTML_WG()12:00PM and WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM
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zakim, this will be HTML_WG
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ok, rubys, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
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+Plh
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scribe: rubys
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010JanMar/0033.html
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Title: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-01: action items, decision policy update, issue status from Paul Cotton on 2010-03-30 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from January to March 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
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+Michael_Cooper
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+ +1.415.595.aaaa
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+[Microsoft]
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+Rich
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Zakim, +1.415.595.aaaa is me
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+mjs; got it
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zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
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+paulc; got it
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+[Microsoft.a]
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Zaki, who's on the phone?
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Zakim, who's on the phone?
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On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, Julian, Plh, Michael_Cooper, mjs, [Microsoft], Rich, [Microsoft.a]
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[Microsoft] has paulc
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+Sam
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zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba
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+adrianba; got it
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Zakim, call Mike
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ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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+Mike
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Zakim, mute Mike
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Mike should now be muted
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Zakim, Mike is me
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+MikeSmith; got it
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Is the scribe ready?
16:03:22 [rubys]
yes, go for it! :-)
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was that the markup police?
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Agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0810.html
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Title: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-01: action items, decision policy update, issue status from Paul Cotton on 2010-03-30 (public-html@w3.org from March 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
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topic: 1. Issues Pending Review
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paulc: none this week
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topic: 2. ACTION items due by Thu Apr 1
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paulc: chairs preprocessed the actions, so no are due today.
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q+
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topic: 3. ACTION items pending review
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paulc: action item 176 was on Sam, and is done, and the chairs are waiting for a response
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q+
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zakim, call janina
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ok, janina; the call is being made
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close action-176
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ACTION-176 Respond to the TAG request on polyglot documents closed
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+Janina
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q-
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ack next
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q+
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adrian: I volunteered on list, and maciej has responded. I would like to see if there are others interested in volunteering.
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Apr/0015.html
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Title: RE: Request for Volunteers: Polyglot spec from Adrian Bateman on 2010-04-01 (public-html@w3.org from April 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Apr/0017.html
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Title: Re: Request for Volunteers: Polyglot spec from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-04-01 (public-html@w3.org from April 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
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paulc: are you looking for additional help, or determining if you need to coordinate
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q-
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adrian: the latter, if we get multiple volunteers I would rather collaborate up front than merge later
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topic: 4. WG Decision Policy update (Maciej)
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mjs: I started on making some updates, starting with simple and relatively uncontroversial items.
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+Laura
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mjs: there are likely bigger changes coming up: watch for more changes, and comments are welcome at any time
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mjs: any questions?
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paulc: the chairs will continue to talk about the harder issues, you will continue to edit the document, and when the time comes we will issue a call for consensus.
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topic: 5. Call For Consensus that close by Apr 1
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paulc: none close today
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topic: 6. Call for Proposals/Counter Proposals that close by Thu Apr 1
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issue-4?
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ISSUE-4 -- HTML Versioning and DOCTYPEs -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/4
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Title: ISSUE-4 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-84?
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ISSUE-84 -- Should spec discourage use of "legacy" doctypes? -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/84
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Title: ISSUE-84 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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paulc: both proposals and counter proposals are in place
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issue-81?
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ISSUE-81 -- Offline Web Applications section should use the term "representation" instead of "resource" -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/81
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Title: ISSUE-81 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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paulc: the TAG is late, and the chairs are negotiating a new date for this item (we are still expecting a proposal)
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q+ to say that I asked for an extension for -82 and -86
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issue-82?
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ISSUE-82 -- Suggested replacement for head/@profile does not provide for disambiguation -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/82
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Title: ISSUE-82 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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q-
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paulc: julian has requested a 3 week extension, and the chairs have not formally responded yet; we want to see progress on other issues before we answer
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issue-86?
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ISSUE-86 -- HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id stability -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/86
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Title: ISSUE-86 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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paulc: julian has requested a 2 week extension, and the chairs will likely deal with this by the next chair call
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issue-89?
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ISSUE-89 -- Remove Section 4.12 Common Idioms without dedicated Elements -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/89
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Title: ISSUE-89 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-90?
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ISSUE-90 -- Tighten the focus and allowable content in the figure element -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/90
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Title: ISSUE-90 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-91?
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ISSUE-91 -- Re-focus and tighten definition of the aside element -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/91
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Title: ISSUE-91 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-92?
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ISSUE-92 -- Re-write the Table section to remove extraneous material, and provide cleaner description -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/92
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Title: ISSUE-92 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-93?
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ISSUE-93 -- Delete Details Element -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/93
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Title: ISSUE-93 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-94?
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ISSUE-94 -- Split Web Application Core and UA specific elements into separate spec -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/94
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Title: ISSUE-94 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-95?
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ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
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Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-96?
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ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
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Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-97?
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ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
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Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-100?
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ISSUE-100 -- Remove the srcdoc attribute from the HTML5 specification -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/100
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Title: ISSUE-100 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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paulc: 15 calls for change proposals, and we received 12 out of 15. The chairs will continue negotiating.
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paulc: maciej has updated the issue-status page
16:16:56 [MikeSmith]
q+ to note http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0435.html is a change proposal submitted for issue 74, and wondering where this one is at on the chairs' radar
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Title: Patial Change request proposal for Issue 74 Canvas accessibility from Richard Schwerdtfeger on 2010-03-18 (public-html@w3.org from March 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
16:17:29 [MikeSmith]
zakim, unmute me
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MikeSmith should no longer be muted
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paulc: the A11y TF has reviewed these, and may prepare counter-proposals
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ack next
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MikeSmith, you wanted to note http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0435.html is a change proposal submitted for issue 74, and wondering where this one is at on
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Title: Patial Change request proposal for Issue 74 Canvas accessibility from Richard Schwerdtfeger on 2010-03-18 (public-html@w3.org from March 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
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... the chairs' radar
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I brought this to Chairs attention during the A11y TF call
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mike: Richard has prepared a partial change proposal which affects 74, and mike believes that this is ready for consideration
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paulc: the co-chairs will take this up; we make make a call for counter proposals as there has been essentially no discussion
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topic: 8. Items that close next week (by Thu Apr 8)
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issue-56?
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ISSUE-56 -- Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment. -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56
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Title: ISSUE-56 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-99?
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ISSUE-99 -- meta/@scheme missing -- RAISED
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/99
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Title: ISSUE-99 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-102?
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ISSUE-102 -- Registration procedure for meta/@name -- RAISED
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/102
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Title: ISSUE-102 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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issue-104?
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ISSUE-104 -- Clarify that mime type sniffing is optional -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/104
16:19:52 [adrianba]
zakim, [Microsoft.a] has franko
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+franko; got it
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Title: ISSUE-104 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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paulc: all close on April 5th (Monday)
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topic: 9. New Calls for Proposals/Consensus this Week
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paulc: none
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topic: 10. New Calls for Counter Proposals this Week
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paulc: none
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topic: 11. New Issues This Week
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issue-105?
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ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- RAISED
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
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Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:20:51 [mjs]
issue-106?
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ISSUE-106 -- Return the concept of Obsolete but conforming back to using obsolete and deprecated -- RAISED
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/106
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Title: ISSUE-106 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:21:19 [rubys]
paulc: two new issues, 105 and 106
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paulc: any other "escallations" pending?
16:22:30 [rubys]
mjs: there are a number of issues with TrackerRequest tag, some are not in the proper state; we will give the authors a chance to raise the issue if they access, or otherwise we will assist with this work
16:22:56 [rubys]
paulc: I note that 105 has an A11y aspect to it; Mike can you bring it to the attention of the A11y task force.
16:23:24 [rubys]
mike: Steven is the one that raised it, and I will follow up with Steven; he will need to be the one to take the lead
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topic: 12. Scribe for next meeting
16:23:49 [MikeSmith]
zakim, mute me
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MikeSmith should now be muted
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regrets for next week
16:24:01 [Julian]
q+ to note that Sam wanted to add to the agenda
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mjs: I will chair next wee
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q-
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paulc: I will scribe
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Any other business?
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Sam is concerned about muttiple WGs using the same MIME type?
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What is the other WG?
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q+
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ack plh
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ack next
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plh: xhtml2 is not fully closed yet, and we will let them do their updates
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plh: they are working on the xhtml1.1 documents
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plh: at the moment we would have two groups using the same mime type
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paulc: did that answer the question as to what other working group is touching the mime type?
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julian: yes, but it doesn't answer the question as to whether this appropriate
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plh: we will need to bring this to the coordination group
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plh: it would send a strong message if the HTML5 working group were to state that they are the only one who should use the text/html MIME type
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-Rich
16:28:26 [rubys]
julian: the W3C owns the mime type; from an architectural point of view it doesn't matter unless the XHTML wg updates the mime type
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paulc: is there actually a chair in place for the XHTML2 working group?
16:28:59 [rubys]
plh: yes
16:29:18 [rubys]
paulc: perhaps we can invite the co-chair to a telecon?
16:29:30 [rubys]
plh: I'm willing to take an action item to contact the chairs
16:29:38 [rubys]
paulc: that's the best way to deal with this
16:30:02 [rubys]
action: plh to contact the various chairs/co-chairs to resolve the use of the text/html mime type
16:30:02 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-178 - Contact the various chairs/co-chairs to resolve the use of the text/html mime type [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2010-04-08].
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- clarifying - a document with new info about text/html is irrelevant from a standards point of view unless the mime type registration is updated to point to it
16:30:20 [rubys]
paulc: does this deal with the agenda item?
16:30:21 [rubys]
rubys: yes
16:30:37 [paulc]
Adjounred at :30 after the hour.
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paulc: adjourned
16:30:41 [Zakim]
-Radhika_Roy
16:30:43 [MikeSmith]
zakim, drop Mike
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-[Microsoft]
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-[Microsoft.a]
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bye
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MikeSmith is being disconnected
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-Julian
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-MikeSmith
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-Janina
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-Plh
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rssagent, generate minutes
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-Michael_Cooper
16:30:53 [rubys]
rrsagent,draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
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-Laura
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-mjs
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-Sam
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HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Radhika_Roy, Julian, Plh, Michael_Cooper, Rich, mjs, paulc, [Microsoft], Sam, adrianba, MikeSmith, Janina, Laura, franko
16:41:19 [pimpbot]
changes: mjs: Record new issues 105 and 106. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0066.html> 4** mjs: Record additional Change Proposal for ISSUE-74. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0065.html> 4** mjs: Record that Call for Counter-Proposals for 4 and 84 is closed. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0064.html>
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planet: Use a "x-dom-event-stream" stream in javascript ? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2561764/use-a-x-dom-event-stream-stream-in-javascript> 4** W3C HTML5/CSS3 Meetup - Paris Mercredi 7 avril 2010 - 19h00 <11http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2010/04/01/W3C-HTML5/CSS3-Meetup-Paris-Mercredi-7-avril-2010-19h00>
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bugmail: [Bug 9187] Need transparency in issue and bug status in databases & document. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0043.html>
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bugmail: [Bug 9384] Please add a rule that the property value for a PARAM element should be its VALUE attribute <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0045.html> 4** [Bug 9384] New: Please add a rule that the property value for a PARAM element should be its VALUE attribute <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0044.html>
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planet: Are browsers Quake-ing in their boots? <11http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/IVPiwUPw8iw/gwt-quake>
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bugmail: "[Bug 9229] meter and progress elements constraint validation status shouldn't be mentionned" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0054.html> 4** "[Bug 9279] Align the English isindex prompt with Firefox and Chrome" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0052.html> 4** [Bug 6496] Allow <img aria-labelledby> to act as a text alternative
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i'm having trouble comitting to the w3c cvs
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hm, it changed on the server
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if anyone sees mikesmith, let him know i had to force a cvs checkin, so we might need to coordinate to fix whatever he had checked in
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changes: hixie: force merge recent changes into w3c copy (there were checkin problems before, not sure why) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0067.html>
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bugmail: [Bug 9280] Add default button option/attribute for forms <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0057.html> 4** "[Bug 7851] Some (perhaps all) scripts with a for="" attribute should be ignored" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0056.html>
22:42:50 [pimpbot]
planet: Div positioning on a canvas with arrows bindings <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2564042/div-positioning-on-a-canvas-with-arrows-bindings>
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bugmail: "[Bug 9286] marginheight and topmargin are missing from the list of obsolete elements" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0063.html> 4** "[Bug 9287] DOCTYPE "mostly useless"" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0061.html> 4** "[Bug 9239] specify a convention for preventing vendor-specific non-standard extensions from clashing with
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changes: hixie: add <body margin*> to the obsolete section (whatwg r4941) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0068.html>
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