IRC log of html-a11y on 2010-04-01

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Zakim, this will be 2119
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 01 April 2010
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0566.html
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chair: Mike_Smith
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agenda+ Actions Review
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agenda+ Face to Face Planning http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/ftf_2010-04.html
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agenda+ Issue 85: "ARIA roles added to the <a> element" http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
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agenda+ Canvas Subteam update: change proposals
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agenda+ Media Subteam Update: requirements; API proposals
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agenda+ Resolved & Rejected Bugs Review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0564.html
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agenda+ New Business
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agenda+ next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe
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WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has now started
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+Gregory_Rosmaita
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+[Microsoft]
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+ +1.408.307.aaaa
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mornin' everyone
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+John_Foliot
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zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
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+paulc; got it
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morning
15:00:08 [MikeSmith]
agenda+ Actions Review
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agenda+ Face to Face Planning http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/ftf_2010-04.html
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agenda+ Issue 85: "ARIA roles added to the <a> element" http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
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agenda+ Canvas Subteam update: change proposals
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agenda+ Media Subteam Update: requirements; API proposals
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agenda+ Resolved & Rejected Bugs Review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0564.html
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agenda+ New Business
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aloha!
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agenda+ next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe
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Zakim, call Mike
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ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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+Mike
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+ +1.514.312.aabb
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+??P9
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+[Microsoft.a]
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zakim, call janina
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ok, janina; the call is being made
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zakiim, +1.514 is Denis_Boudreau
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agenda+ f2f venue change
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+Janina
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+[IPcaller]
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zakim, who's on the phone?
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+Michael_Cooper
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On the phone I see Gregory_Rosmaita, [Microsoft], +1.408.307.aaaa, John_Foliot, Mike, +1.514.312.aabb (muted), ??P9, [Microsoft.a], Janina, [IPcaller], Michael_Cooper
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[Microsoft] has paulc
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zakim, microsoft is kford
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zakim, +1.408 is Erik_Carlson
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+kford; got it
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+Erik_Carlson; got it
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zakim, ??P9 is Marco_Ranon
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+Marco_Ranon; got it
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zakim, IPcaller is Steve_Faulkner
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+Steve_Faulkner; got it
15:03:04 [MikeSmith]
agenda+ discussion of recently raised HTML WG issues
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drop item 1
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drop item 2
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drop item 3
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drop item 4
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drop item 5
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drop item 6
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drop item 7
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drop item 8
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+Jon_Gunderson
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+Sean_Hayes
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+ +31.20.625.aacc
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+Cynthia_Shelly
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brb
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zakim, +31 is Dick_Bulterman
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+ +1.512.206.aadd
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+Dick_Bulterman; got it
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zakim, +1.512 is Jim_Allan
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+Rich
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+Jim_Allan; got it
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agenda+ discussion of recently raised HTML WG issues
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action-1?
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ACTION-1 -- Cynthia Shelly to write overall approach HTML support of ARIA -- due 2009-12-17 -- CLOSED
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/1
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zakim, +1.514 is Denis_Boudreau
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+Denis_Boudreau; got it
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zakim, Microsoft.a has Paul_Cotton
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+Paul_Cotton; got it
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zakim, Paul is no longer with kford
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Paul was not listed in kford, MichaelC
15:07:49 [oedipus]
zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see Gregory_Rosmaita, kford, Erik_Carlson, John_Foliot, Mike, Denis_Boudreau (muted), Marco_Ranon, [Microsoft.a], Janina, Steve_Faulkner, Michael_Cooper,
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... Jon_Gunderson, Sean_Hayes, Dick_Bulterman (muted), Cynthia_Shelly, Jim_Allan, Rich
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kford has paulc
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[Microsoft.a] has Paul_Cotton
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scribe: kford
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On IRC I see Sean, jongunderson, AllanJ, richardschwerdtfe, Stevef, Eric_Carlson, janina, paulc, dboudreau, Zakim, RRSAgent, JF, oedipus, Marco_Ranon, kford, MikeSmith, MichaelC,
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Scribe: KFord
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... trackbot
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zakim, paulc is no longer with kford
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-paulc; got it
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Zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1. "Actions Review" taken up [from MichaelC]
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
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+ +49.693.650.5.aaee
15:08:47 [kford]
We have a lot on the agenda so starting with priority items.
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/2
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action-2?
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ACTION-2 -- Cynthia Shelly to deliver draft of change proposal for ARIA additions to HTML 5 by 2009-12-24 -- due 2010-04-01 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/2
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Starting with action 2.
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Any update from CS on this?
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Group believes it will take to the summer to finish.
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MS: Can we break this up a bit?
15:11:22 [kford]
JS: We don't want to dribble in suggestions. What we do with one item may impact others. We've seen this in PF.
15:11:51 [kford]
MS: Anything is better than saying July.
15:12:25 [oedipus]
putting artificial time-constraints on the HTML TF is NOT going to help anyone -- we are WORKING on these issues and have been since HTML5 arrived within w3c
15:12:44 [kford]
More discussion of implications of keeping actions open for extended time periods.
15:12:53 [JF]
+1 there oedipus
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CS: We are actively working. It will just take time.
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PC: The working group isn't seeing your progress.
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GR: That cuts both ways.
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PC: It would be helpful to show progress..
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GJR: a11y can't be addressed piecemeal
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MC: Explains how the group has been making progress. We have some work in a spreadsheet. Maybe we can make this available.
15:14:41 [kford]
CS: We couold do this but I don't want to debate with the working group line by line.
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CS: Debating details at this point is a concern.
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CS: Maybe we could set a date for providing a higher level framework, such as the groups of mappings.
15:16:10 [kford]
CS: Having the higher level discussion would be good, debating if anchor should override button now isn't.
15:16:21 [oedipus]
problem is that HTML5 is being implemented piecemeal without addressing a11y concerns -- case in point CANVAS implementations BEFORE an accessible solution for CANVAS is available -- THAT is NOT helpful
15:16:42 [oedipus]
look at the participants who are sponsored and those who are not
15:17:03 [oedipus]
getting to last call means re-achieving the level of a11y in HTML5
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MS: HTML5 chairs are tasked with getting to last call.
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s/level of a11y in HTML5/HTML4
15:17:40 [JF]
So why are we pushing this? A timeline was proposed - July - and thta's an answer
15:18:09 [kford]
JS: You are picking one of the more complicated issues. DEoes this represent a larger frustration?
15:18:24 [oedipus]
any entity that wants to pay for dedicated HTML5 a11y work is more then welcome to ante up some funds
15:18:28 [kford]
rrsagent, amke minutes
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'amke minutes', kford. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html kford
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More discussion between PC and JS around dates.
15:19:58 [kliehm]
I understand the need to progress, but I do not appreciate putting such emotional pressure on people.
15:20:25 [JF]
Q: do we want "success" or do we want to meet a deadline?
15:20:31 [oedipus]
why is there a double-standard for what the TF does and what the WG does?
15:20:47 [oedipus]
amen, JF - we want and DEMAND success
15:21:14 [kford]
PC: I want people to understand what happened at the AC meeting last week.
15:21:26 [oedipus]
the chairs also need to LISTEN to the tf members, not just top-down "do this according to my schedule"
15:21:40 [kford]
PC: There is material in the report that calls the progress slow and steady.
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PC: Issues owned by the accessibility task force have been identified as the long trail.
15:22:30 [oedipus]
we are being punished for the dysfunctionality of the HTML WG prior to the present change in chairs, editors
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith
15:24:30 [kford]
CS: Do we need to shift more effort to this and put other items on the back burner like summary?
15:24:40 [oedipus]
while this is going on, we are NOT addressing any of the agenda items -- this meta-discussion EVERY week isn't helpful at all
15:25:36 [oedipus]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/ftf_2010-04.html
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Discussion around whether accessibility mappings should get talked about at F2F.
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q+
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q?
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ack Stevef
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JS Outlines goals of F2F.
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q+
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process has now monopolized HALF the meeting time
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ack Stevef
15:28:20 [MichaelC]
q+ to say we could have sub-groups for part of the agenda next week
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q+ to say I'm concerned that some of the frustrations expressed in IRC will escalate tension later, when we want to de-escalate
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ack MichaelC
15:29:20 [Zakim]
MichaelC, you wanted to say we could have sub-groups for part of the agenda next week and to say I'm concerned that some of the frustrations expressed in IRC will escalate tension
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... later, when we want to de-escalate
15:29:44 [kford]
MC: Proposes that that subgroups are used to help make progress.
15:30:13 [oedipus]
i stand by my comments in IRC and by voice
15:30:15 [JF]
then let's plan for progress, not for hitting some artificial deadline
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MS: We've spent a lot of time here. We should get back to the agenda.
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/me who is speaking?
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dick bulterman
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/me GR can you summarize his comment?
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DB: how can i help advance discussion on media issues -- will there be time at the f2f if i push issues to the public-html list
15:32:50 [oedipus]
MS: that would be useful
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take up item 2
15:33:01 [kford]
DD: Asks how to make progress on some of his issues. Suggestion is to bring it to the list.
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s/DD: Asks/DB: Asks
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
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take up item 18
15:34:01 [kford]
MS: Please look at the agenda, if you have proposed changes we should know about them.
15:34:11 [MikeSmith]
take up item 17
15:34:16 [kford]
MS: Note F2F venue has changed.
15:34:36 [oedipus]
the bentley suite = http://www.holidayinn.com/hotels/gb/en/birmingham/bhxwm/hoteldetail
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-kliehm
15:34:49 [kford]
MC: Meeting page has details.. Meeting is at Holiday Inn, couple blocks from original location.
15:35:03 [MikeSmith]
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/2010/dispute.html
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MC: May also be a possible rail strike. Be aware if this could impact you.
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item 3
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rrsagent, amke minutes
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'amke minutes', kford. Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:35:39 [MikeSmith]
Zakim, take up item 3
15:35:39 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Issue 85: "ARIA roles added to the <a> element" http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85" taken up [from MichaelC]
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s/rrsagent, amke minutes//
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+kliehm
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
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ISSUE-85 escalated from bug: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8000
15:36:24 [oedipus]
ISSUE-85 escalated from bug: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8000
15:36:35 [MikeSmith]
zakim, take up item 4
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agendum 4. "Canvas Subteam update: change proposals" taken up [from MichaelC]
15:36:36 [kford]
CS: We are cranking through this. We made progress at a recent PF F2F.
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Canvas
15:37:01 [kford]
MS: Rich, for canvas we are waiting for work around focus to be done.
15:37:32 [kford]
RS: What we need to do expose blink rate to the API so we don't cause issues.
15:37:52 [kford]
RS: Hope to be working on this during travel.
15:38:15 [oedipus]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0014.html
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change proposal (SteveF) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0088.html
15:39:23 [kford]
RS: The item at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0014.html has been sent to the list. Haven't heard much, what's the status. Can we propose this?
15:40:23 [kford]
RS: A change may be coming but that shouldn't blick this item.
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s/blick/block/
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s/blick/block
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html kford
15:41:21 [paulc]
which wg isse is being discussed?
15:41:25 [oedipus]
for focus rectangle and caret http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0088.html
15:41:27 [richardschwerdtfe]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0435.html
15:41:44 [oedipus]
action-12 paulc
15:42:14 [MikeSmith]
this is for HTML WG issue 74
15:42:40 [paulc]
http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-074
15:42:55 [MikeSmith]
take up item 5
15:43:33 [kford]
MS We have a couple proposals that are out there.
15:43:33 [oedipus]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0562.html
15:44:48 [kford]
/me not hearing EC, can someone capture what he said?
15:45:00 [MikeSmith]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_TextAssociations
15:45:09 [oedipus]
EC: hope to have something written up for face2face on Media Text Associations
15:45:17 [oedipus]
MS: Media Text Associations?
15:45:25 [oedipus]
EC: correct
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-kford
15:45:34 [oedipus]
EC: this is issue we've been talking about
15:45:52 [oedipus]
MS: not clear where blockage is on this proposal
15:45:58 [kford]
MS: Not clear what this proposal is blocked on.
15:46:00 [oedipus]
MS: would like to send out CFC on it
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+[Microsoft]
15:46:17 [kford]
MS: Thinking we should send this out for call for consensus.
15:46:54 [kford]
DD: Our concerns are that video container has evolved into mixing timings that is beyond presentation of a given piece of media.
15:47:03 [oedipus]
s/DD:/DB:/G
15:49:28 [kford]
MS: I don't think it is too early to send out call for consensus. Dick you should then respond with your points.
15:49:36 [kford]
Dick: Fine with me.
15:49:39 [MikeSmith]
zakim, take up item 6
15:49:39 [Zakim]
agendum 6. "Resolved & Rejected Bugs Review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0564.html" taken up [from MichaelC]
15:50:14 [Zakim]
-Jon_Gunderson
15:50:24 [kford]
MS: Please look through bug report and bring any that we should look at in the meeting.
15:50:42 [kford]
MC: We want this to be an agenda item at F2F.
15:50:42 [MikeSmith]
zakim, take up item 7
15:50:42 [Zakim]
agendum 7. "New Business" taken up [from MichaelC]
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15:51:09 [kford]
MS: No new business aside from F2F venue change.
15:51:19 [MikeSmith]
zakim, take up item 8
15:51:19 [Zakim]
agendum 8. "next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe" taken up [from MichaelC]
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zakim, take up item 9
15:51:29 [Zakim]
agendum 9. "Actions Review" taken up [from MikeSmith]
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zakim, take up item 10
15:51:33 [Zakim]
agendum 10. "Face to Face Planning http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/ftf_2010-04.html" taken up [from MikeSmith]
15:51:56 [MikeSmith]
Topic: PF review of items recently raised by Shelley
15:52:40 [kford]
CS: We talked about this at a high level. On PF call we agreed that removing elements was a bad idea.
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q?
15:53:03 [kford]
CS: We were interested in putting voice of task force behind keeping these items.
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15:53:21 [kford]
SF: Eliminating these items is not a good idea.
15:54:01 [oedipus]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0858.html
15:54:15 [kford]
JS: I saw one that was out of scope for us perhaps.
15:54:27 [oedipus]
s/is not a good idea/is a good idea - allows author to use native semantics without having to add ARIA markup
15:54:33 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
15:54:45 [MikeSmith]
q?
15:54:50 [kford]
JS: We should make a list that are accessibility related, review at F2F and make a proposal from task force to take to WG.
15:55:18 [JF]
I agree with Janina, there is a fair bit to digest here
15:56:13 [kford]
PC: It would be helpful to know which of these task force thinks need to keep around.
15:56:28 [kford]
rrsagent, amke minutes
15:56:28 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'amke minutes', kford. Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:56:35 [oedipus]
2 MINUTE WARNING
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rrsagent , make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
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s/rrsagent, amke minutes//G
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
15:57:26 [kford]
MS: Anyone who does comment on these has an obligation to read the full proposal and not just react to titles.
15:59:15 [kford]
/me MS is breaking up, can anyone else scribe his comment?
16:00:03 [Zakim]
-Dick_Bulterman
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-[Microsoft]
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-Erik_Carlson
16:00:55 [kford]
MS: I think we need to consider Cynthia's idea of moving mappings higher and also breaking into groups.
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-Cynthia_Shelly
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-Sean_Hayes
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-Steve_Faulkner
16:01:01 [MikeSmith]
[adjourned]
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-Michael_Cooper
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-Rich
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-Jim_Allan
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-kliehm
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Zakim, drop Mike
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Mike is being disconnected
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-Janina
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-Mike
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-John_Foliot
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-Denis_Boudreau
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-Marco_Ranon
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html kford
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zakim, please part
16:03:24 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, +1.408.307.aaaa, John_Foliot, paulc, Mike, +1.514.312.aabb, Janina, Michael_Cooper, kford, Erik_Carlson,
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... Marco_Ranon, Steve_Faulkner, Jon_Gunderson, Sean_Hayes, +31.20.625.aacc, Cynthia_Shelly, +1.512.206.aadd, Dick_Bulterman, Rich, Jim_Allan, Denis_Boudreau, Paul_Cotton,
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... +49.693.650.5.aaee, kliehm, [Microsoft]
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html kford
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presnet+Jim_Allan
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present+ Denis Boudreau, Steve_Faulkner, Cynthia_Shelly, Dick_Bulterman
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present+ Rich_S,Jim_Allen
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
16:06:07 [kford]
rrsagent, make minutes
16:06:07 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html kford
16:06:24 [oedipus]
present- [+1.514.312.aabb]
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rrsagent, make minues
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minues', oedipus. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
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regrets: Slyvia_Pfieffer,Aurlien_Levy, Dave_Singer, Laura_Carlson,
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
16:07:58 [oedipus]
present- aaaa
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/01-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
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rrsagent, please part
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I see no action items