IRC log of webapps on 2010-03-31

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18:04:39 [trackbot]

RRSAgent, make logs public

18:04:39 [Zakim]

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Zakim, this will be DOM3

18:04:41 [Zakim]

ok, trackbot, I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM already started

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Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 31 March 2010

18:04:51 [shepazu]

Zakim, call shepazu

18:04:51 [Zakim]

ok, shepazu; the call is being made

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+Shepazu

18:06:49 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

18:07:04 [smaug]

Zakim:, [IPcaller] is me

18:07:16 [smaug]

Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay

18:07:16 [Zakim]

+Olli_Pettay; got it

18:13:37 [Travis]

topic: beforescroll, magnify ideas

18:13:50 [Travis]

Very interesting ideas.

18:14:05 [Travis]

wheel event provides some of these use cases (for panning anyway).

18:14:55 [Travis]

smaug: Chatted with Joao and recommended that these ideas be addressed in a future events spec.

18:15:16 [Travis]

shepazu: We're pretty much feature-complete at this point.

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18:17:24 [Travis]

topic: DOMActivate

18:18:12 [Travis]

shepazu: Spoke with PF WG and addressed the topic of deprecating DOMActivate.

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18:19:07 [Travis]

... Their resolution was that they had no objections so long as activation behvior is retained (we have clarified that) and make it more clear that "click" is device independent.

18:19:40 [Travis]

... I will add some specific text to the spec to address these point immediately.

18:19:55 [Travis]

... From XForms WG, they are still concerned about deprecating DOMActivate.

18:23:00 [Travis]

shepazu: All of our "optional" features are also "deprecated" at the moment.

18:23:49 [Travis]

... One approach to addressing the concerns of XForms is to keep DOMActivate as optional, but remove the "deprecated" status.

18:27:17 [Travis]

... I'm not thrilled about splitting the concept of "optional" and "deprecated".

18:31:38 [Travis]

... Given that a majority of other WG are on board (including accessibility), we believe that any objections at this point should be taken to the list, and addressed at last call.

18:35:46 [Travis]

topic: textInput and input modes

18:39:27 [Travis]

In some scenarios (editing w/execCommands and contenteditable), we may not be able to discern script from end-user input.

18:39:36 [Travis]

Action: shepazu to add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input.

18:39:36 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-512 - Add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input. [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-04-07].

18:43:42 [Travis]

topic: composition start/end and cancelable

18:44:12 [Travis]

smaug: Got some feedback regarding the ability to cancel IMEs in GTK in Unix-based OS

18:44:41 [Travis]

... didn't seem to be able to cancle the IME on these platforms.

18:53:56 [Travis]

... need to get further clarification.

18:54:56 [Zakim]

-Olli_Pettay

18:54:58 [Zakim]

-[Microsoft]

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-Shepazu

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IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended

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Attendees were [Microsoft], Shepazu, Olli_Pettay

18:55:11 [Travis]

Travis: I also had some feedback that I'll send to the list.

18:56:39 [shepazu]

trackbot, end telcon

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Zakim, list attendees

18:56:39 [Zakim]

sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

18:56:40 [trackbot]

RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-minutes.html trackbot

18:56:41 [trackbot]

RRSAgent, bye

18:56:41 [RRSAgent]

I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-webapps-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: shepazu to add note to input mode (for textInput) that "source script" should not be used as a basis for security decisions, as some UAs may not be able to discern between script and end-user input. [1]

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