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20:03:11 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
20:03:11 <trackbot> Date: 15 March 2010
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20:03:21 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
20:03:23 <trackbot> Date: 15 March 2010
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20:03:42 <Zakim> +??P4
20:03:46 <ed> Zakim, ?? is me
20:03:46 <Zakim> +ed; got it
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20:05:24 <jwatt> Zakim, IPCaller is me
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20:05:50 <Zakim> +ChrisL
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20:09:16 <anthony> Zakim, [IP is me
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20:15:02 <ChrisL> ScribeNick: ChrisL
20:15:46 <ChrisL> Topic: publications
20:15:58 <ChrisL> Resolved: publish colour module
20:16:17 <ChrisL> Resolved: publish filters module
20:18:06 <ChrisL> (discussion of heartbeat requirement)
20:19:38 <ChrisL> Anthony: didn't we resolve to publish compositing?
20:19:41 <ChrisL> Chris: yes
20:19:57 <ChrisL> Anthony: May be waiting on some changes to be edited in ... will check
20:21:35 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/filters/publish/SVGFilter.html looks ok
20:21:38 <ChrisL> Erik: filter module is ready to go, langauge spec only not requirments or primer
20:22:36 <ChrisL> Chis: Recall having some issues for colour with the master to publish script and the xml file
20:22:51 <ChrisL> Erik: Filters looks a lot better than the last one we published
20:23:31 <ChrisL> Chris: Pubrules requires html validity, css validity and broken links checks
20:23:47 <ChrisL> Erik: Changebar stuff removed, points to cvs logs for changes
20:24:15 <ChrisL> Chris: 1.1SE?
20:24:37 <ChrisL> Erik: testsuite needs some tweaks before its ready to go
20:24:47 <ChrisL> Topic: 1.1SE testsuite
20:25:58 <ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Test_Suite_1.1F2
20:26:03 <ChrisL> Anthony: I did a bunch of updates, sent mail
20:26:12 <ChrisL> Erik: Remember to update the wiki
20:27:18 <ChrisL> Chris: fontforge crashes part way through writing the svg file. Will see if one with hebrew glyphs can be made
20:27:44 <ChrisL> ACTION: Chris to make an svg font with latin and hebrew glyphs
20:27:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2741 - Make an svg font with latin and hebrew glyphs [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-03-22].
20:28:20 <ChrisL> Erik: text-tspan-01-b needs a bold sans serif, could change to serif
20:29:01 <ChrisL> ACTION: Chris to make bold and italic faces of an svg font in sans-serif (latin)
20:29:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2742 - Make bold and italic faces of an svg font in sans-serif (latin) [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-03-22].
20:29:39 <ChrisL> 'Erik: did a bunch of tests, image patches, need some fonts and image patches rendered
20:30:07 <ChrisL> Erik: recent Mac issue with Batik, no local TT fonts used at all!
20:30:18 <ChrisL> ... replaced with SVG fonts, then it worked
20:30:27 <ChrisL> ... on Mac only, works ok on Linux
20:31:33 <ChrisL> Chris: a few tests need thinks like Chinese, Japanese etc
20:31:45 <ChrisL> ... need to find free ones that can be converted to svg fonts
20:32:52 <ChrisL> Erik: also need to add good pass criteria (some are vague). Apart from that its ok
20:33:33 <ChrisL> Chris: Are we punblishing the whole 1.1SE testsuite, or just the errata ones
20:33:49 <ChrisL> Erik: All of them. Some new ones added since last publication
20:34:07 <ChrisL> ... adding good pass criteria could take some time
20:35:13 <ChrisL> Chris: Would like to make a supplementary harness for just the errata tests
20:35:36 <ChrisL> Anthony: edit a local copy of publishtests.txt
20:35:53 <ChrisL> ... in scripts directory
20:35:57 <anthony> f11_published_tests.txt
20:36:24 <ChrisL> Chris OK I will do that and link that harness to the implementation report
20:37:30 <ChrisL> ACTION: Chris to make a harness version of the 1.1SE errata tests and link to imp report
20:37:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2743 - Make a harness version of the 1.1SE errata tests and link to imp report [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-03-22].
20:38:03 <ChrisL> Topic: TPAC
20:38:19 <ChrisL> Erik: we need to respond
20:38:48 <ChrisL> ACTION: Erik respond to TPAC survey. 
20:38:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2744 - Respond to TPAC survey.  [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-03-22].
20:39:37 <ChrisL> Attendance: Chris, Anthony, probably JWatt, Erik for now
20:40:16 <ChrisL> (we guess about 10 attendees)
20:40:39 <ChrisL> Chris: Ask to be on differnt day to CSS
20:42:09 <ChrisL> Erik: Groups to meet with: CSS, XSL, HTML, WebApps (for DOM)
20:44:09 <ChrisL> ACTION: Chris to make registration pages for Brussels and Lyon meetings
20:44:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2745 - Make registration pages for Brussels and Lyon meetings [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-03-22].
20:44:23 <ChrisL> Erik: sent in the form
20:44:42 <ChrisL> close action-2744
20:44:42 <trackbot> ACTION-2744 Respond to TPAC survey. closed
20:45:13 <ChrisL> Resolved: Publish compositing once Anthony gives the all-clear
20:46:28 <ed> <li>The circles must be fully filled by the filter output, which should resemble a radial gradient with a white focal point in the lower right position (about four o'clock)</li>
20:46:29 <ed>           <li>The rects must be fully filled by the filter output, which should resemble a radial gradient with a white focal point in the lower right corner.</li>
20:46:44 <ed> (those are for filters-light-03-f.svg)
20:46:54 <ChrisL> Chris: looks good
20:47:14 <ChrisL> (adjourned to work on more tests)
20:47:29 <ChrisL> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/errata/implementation-report.html
20:48:13 <ChrisL> could do with a nightly WebKit test for the errata
20:49:06 <ChrisL> Erik: test chrome and safari separately?
20:49:57 <ChrisL> ... different platform layers and different build dates. Can make quite a difference
20:50:51 <ChrisL> (adjourned)
20:51:35 <ChrisL> Erik: Thursday do FX only
20:51:56 <ChrisL> Chris: same time is better for Australians
20:52:04 <Zakim> -anthony
20:52:07 <Zakim> -ed
20:52:08 <Zakim> -jwatt
20:52:20 <ChrisL> Thursday will be at regular time in Europe ansd Australia, so 9pm Europe
20:52:22 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
20:52:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/15-svg-minutes.html ChrisL
20:52:23 <ed> s/FX only/SVG only/
20:52:26 <Zakim> -ChrisL
20:52:27 <Zakim> GA_SVGWG()3:00PM has ended
20:52:29 <Zakim> Attendees were ed, jwatt, ChrisL, [IPcaller], anthony
20:55:49 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
20:55:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/15-svg-minutes.html ChrisL
20:56:08 <ed> ouch, animate-dom-02-f fails in webkit r55974 (previously marked as passing)
20:57:29 <ed> still crashing hard on the text-tref test btw
20:58:55 <ed> text-dom-03-f.svg passed, previously failed
21:01:17 <ed> filters-image-02-b.svg is now partial
21:01:51 <ed> types-dom-04-b.svg now passed
21:02:20 <ed> i'll update the report
21:03:33 <ed> what should i do with the regression? flag it as passed in previous version?
21:04:06 <ChrisL> was it the only pass for that test?
21:04:25 <ed> no, the second one
21:04:40 <ChrisL> well, if it fails it fails
21:04:55 <ChrisL> cvs up, i just updated the report for two mozilla passes
21:04:59 <ed> ok
21:06:16 <ChrisL> oh and remember to update the list at the top with the webkit build number
21:06:36 <ed> yep
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21:06:43 <ChrisL> hey doug
21:06:49 <ChrisL> how goes the conference?
21:07:52 <ChrisL> erik, http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-90-b.svg
21:08:17 <ChrisL> opera 10.50 passes, on friday opera 10.10 was a partial. its a new test, please look at it
21:08:23 <ChrisL> made in response to an action
21:08:41 <shepazu> hi, ChrisL 
21:08:43 <shepazu> ok
21:08:45 <shepazu> not yet met up with Patrick
21:08:47 <shepazu> will meet him tomorrow
21:08:49 <shepazu> Silverlight looks pretty slick :)  wish they would output SVG with Expression... 
21:08:59 <ChrisL> our call ended early so we could do more tests
21:10:16 <ed> impl report updated now 
21:10:40 <ed> looks better now i think
21:10:44 <ed> more green :)
21:11:21 <ChrisL> cool. big jump in webkit build number
21:13:33 <ChrisL> erik, http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-90-b.svg
21:13:54 <ChrisL> new test for animating the class attribute and seeing if style changes
21:14:01 <ChrisL> opera 10.50 passes, on friday opera 10.10 was a partial. its a new test, please look at it
21:17:14 <ed> confirmed
21:18:24 <ed> typo: intitally 
21:20:21 <ChrisL> note to self, get a taxt editor with a spell checker
21:20:26 <ChrisL> text
21:20:31 <anthony> hehe
21:20:35 <ChrisL> note to self, get new fingers
21:20:56 <anthony> nah, usually it's the keyboard that needs replacing?
21:21:12 <anthony> ChrisL, you should get yourself one of these: http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/keyboard4.jpg
21:21:19 <ChrisL> erik, want to set yourself as reviewer then?
21:21:52 <ChrisL> wow
21:22:07 <ed> yes, the test looks fine to me, you can set me as reviewer and fix the typo at the same time :)
21:23:28 <ChrisL> great
21:23:57 <ed> cool, svg-wow.org pushes out almost 10gig per day :)
21:24:06 <ed> on average
21:24:51 <shepazu> ed: that's awesome.  I'll be using a couple of demos, and crediting SVG Wow!, so you might see an uptick
21:25:07 <shepazu> ed: you should make it easier to download each example
21:25:09 <ed> that mention on ajaxian sure helped the stats :)
21:25:20 <ed> shepazu: yep, that's next on my todo-list
21:25:23 <shepazu> also, the picture apps seem broken
21:25:34 <ed> which one?
21:32:18 <shepazu> ed, the one with the scrolling pics can't get them from Flickr, at least on FF
21:34:30 <ed> the mustache one discovered a regression in webkit fwiw... hopefully they'll fix that (andreas neumann seemed a bit upset about that one :)
21:35:09 <ed> something with viewBox and getScreenCTM, when the aspect doesn't match the window
21:39:06 <ed> shepazu: not all photos seem to be clickable, even in safari...
21:39:51 <shepazu> nice
21:40:37 <ed> i'll forward the report to vincent, maybe we can make it work a bit better
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