IRC log of html-a11y on 2010-03-11
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 2119
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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- Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 11 March 2010
- 15:59:10 [janina]
- zakim, call janina
- 15:59:10 [Zakim]
- ok, janina; the call is being made
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- WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has now started
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- +Janina
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, IPcaller is me
- 15:59:54 [Zakim]
- +Stevef; got it
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- +Michael_Cooper
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- 16:00:02 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, call Mike
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- ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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- +Mike
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- +Gregory_Rosmaita
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- +Dick_Bulterman
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- +Rich
- 16:01:13 [MikeSmith]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0186.html
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- +Eric_Carlson
- 16:01:33 [MikeSmith]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0186.html
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Scribe_List
- 16:03:16 [richardschwerdtfe]
- agenda?
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- +Matt
- 16:03:44 [MichaelC]
- Meeting: HTML-A11Y telecon
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- Chair: MikeSmith
- 16:03:47 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ decision on Canvas navsubstree proposal to HTML WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0014.html
- 16:03:49 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ status of Canvas focuse proposal: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/canvasaccessibility
- 16:03:51 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ decision on Multitrack API proposal to HTML WG: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_MultitrackAPI
- 16:03:52 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ status of TextAssociations proposal: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_TextAssociations
- 16:03:54 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ status of summary-details change proposal: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Details_element_as_a_replacement_for_summary_attribute%2C_Feb_15%2C_2010
- 16:03:55 [Zakim]
- +??P6
- 16:03:55 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ f2f planning for April 6-7 meeting
- 16:03:57 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ actions review
- 16:03:58 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ resolved & rejected bugs review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0168.html
- 16:04:01 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ any other business
- 16:04:03 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe
- 16:04:06 [Ben]
- zakim, ??P6 is Ben_Caldwell
- 16:04:10 [Zakim]
- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
- 16:04:13 [oedipus]
- FYI canvas subgroup telecon minutes (2010-03-08)
- 16:04:33 [oedipus]
- FYI canvas subgroup telecon minutes (2010-03-08) http://www.w3.org/2010/03/08-html-a11y-minutes.html
- 16:04:36 [MichaelC]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0186.html
- 16:04:37 [Zakim]
- +[Microsoft]
- 16:04:48 [paulc]
- zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
- 16:04:48 [Zakim]
- +paulc; got it
- 16:05:15 [oedipus]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:05:15 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Janina, Stevef, Michael_Cooper, Mike, Gregory_Rosmaita, Dick_Bulterman (muted), Rich, Eric_Carlson, Matt, Ben_Caldwell, [Microsoft]
- 16:05:17 [Zakim]
- [Microsoft] has paulc
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- On IRC I see Ben, richardschwerdtfe, Joshue, eric_carlson, Zakim, RRSAgent, Stevef, janina, oedipus, paulc, MichaelC, MikeSmith, trackbot
- 16:06:09 [MikeSmith]
- scribe: Stevef
- 16:06:19 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, take up item 1
- 16:06:19 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "decision on Canvas navsubstree proposal to HTML WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0014.html" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 16:06:37 [oedipus]
- canvas subgroup telecon minutes (2010-03-08) http://www.w3.org/2010/03/08-html-a11y-minutes.html
- 16:07:29 [MichaelC]
- regrets: Kelly_Ford, Aurélien_Levy, Jon_Gunderson, Markku_Hakkinen, Denis_Boudreau, Laura_Carlson, Marco_Ranon
- 16:07:30 [Stevef]
- Mike: navsubtree has greater agreement at this point, anyone object to sending ot html wg for wider review
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- 16:07:34 [oedipus]
- discussion of ADom and imagemap approaches: http://www.w3.org/2010/03/08-html-a11y-minutes.html#item02
- 16:07:57 [Stevef]
- janina: will be couple of additional pieces coming later including focus proposal
- 16:08:02 [Zakim]
- + +1.617.300.aaaa - is perhaps WGBH?
- 16:08:23 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/canvasaccessibility
- 16:08:39 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/Map4NotAdom
- 16:08:59 [oedipus]
- rich's proposal email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010JanMar/0276.html
- 16:09:04 [MichaelC]
- zakim, WGBH is Geoff_Freed
- 16:09:04 [Zakim]
- +Geoff_Freed; got it
- 16:09:05 [Stevef]
- rich: 2 other proposals 1 focus and caret tracking and image map 2. image map, need to work on with chaals,
- 16:09:41 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/12
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/19
- 16:10:11 [Stevef]
- mike: record a resolution to put navsubtree proposal forward, and give people 48 hours to object, but needs more wider discussion
- 16:10:52 [Stevef]
- mike: will put in language for proposed resolution as placeholder until agreed
- 16:12:26 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/11-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
- 16:12:35 [MikeSmith]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The a11y TF resolves that the canvas navsubtree proposal is ready for wider review by the HTML WG, with the understanding that the a11y TF supports it principle and the related proposals needed to fully resolve the issue are still under discussion and will be forthcoming.
- 16:13:22 [oedipus]
- plus 1
- 16:13:24 [richardschwerdtfe]
- +1
- 16:13:55 [oedipus]
- plus 1 with removal of "in principle"
- 16:14:24 [oedipus]
- SF: Rich asking for change proposal for HTML WG wiki? this is spec ready text, right?
- 16:14:38 [oedipus]
- RS: Maciej said need justification for why we are doing it on the wiki
- 16:14:50 [MikeSmith]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The a11y TF resolves that the canvas navsubtree proposal is ready for wider review by the HTML WG, with the understanding that the a11y TF supports it and that related proposals needed to fully resolve the issue are still under discussion and will be brought to the HTML WG later.
- 16:14:56 [oedipus]
- SF: i can create the necessary wiki page -- then get input required for rationale
- 16:15:07 [oedipus]
- MS: do need the wiki page, if you can volunteer, it would be great
- 16:15:12 [oedipus]
- SF: will mock it up today
- 16:15:20 [oedipus]
- RS: SteveF, you'll set up
- 16:15:40 [oedipus]
- SF: yes -- will send URI to TF list -- need to reveiew rationale to ensure has all required info
- 16:15:45 [oedipus]
- RS: reveiw period?
- 16:15:50 [oedipus]
- MS: 48 hours
- 16:15:53 [oedipus]
- RS: ok
- 16:16:08 [oedipus]
- MC: 48 hour period -- web based survey or call for objections on mailing list
- 16:16:11 [MikeSmith]
- RESOLUTION: The a11y TF resolves that the canvas navsubtree proposal is ready for wider review by the HTML WG, with the understanding that the a11y TF supports it and that related proposals needed to fully resolve the issue are still under discussion and will be brought to the HTML WG later.
- 16:16:15 [oedipus]
- MS: call for objections on list
- 16:16:38 [oedipus]
- MS: action for SteveF to write up change proposal in way HTML WG requires
- 16:16:44 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, take up item 2
- 16:16:44 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "status of Canvas focuse proposal: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/canvasaccessibility" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 16:17:06 [Stevef]
- mike: rich please update us
- 16:17:12 [oedipus]
- i/SF: Rich asking for change/scribnick: oedipus
- 16:17:35 [oedipus]
- i/mike: rich please update/scribenick: Stevef
- 16:17:39 [oedipus]
- i/SF: Rich asking for change/scribenick: oedipus
- 16:17:48 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/11-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
- 16:18:29 [oedipus]
- RESOLVED: The a11y TF resolves that the canvas navsubtree proposal is ready for wider review by the HTML WG, with the understanding that the a11y TF supports it and that related proposals needed to fully resolve the issue are still under discussion and will be brought to the HTML WG later.
- 16:18:31 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/11-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
- 16:18:56 [Stevef]
- Rich: 1 tried to be inline with 2d spec, merged caret/focus. and maciej had same concern , asking to spereate caret out. bit in spec about who draws focus ring waiting for clarification. will then write proposal update, hopeing to have it ready in the next couple of weeks
- 16:19:23 [oedipus]
- SF: need clarification from hixie
- 16:19:35 [oedipus]
- RS: sent to maciej - first canvas implementation by apple
- 16:19:46 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, drop item 1
- 16:19:46 [Zakim]
- agendum 1, decision on Canvas navsubstree proposal to HTML WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0014.html, dropped
- 16:19:49 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, drop item 2
- 16:19:49 [Zakim]
- agendum 2, status of Canvas focuse proposal: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/canvasaccessibility, dropped
- 16:19:55 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, take up item 3
- 16:19:55 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "decision on Multitrack API proposal to HTML WG: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_MultitrackAPI" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 16:20:23 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/multitrack-api/results
- 16:20:26 [Stevef]
- mike: eric please summarise state of agreement
- 16:20:54 [Stevef]
- eric: sylvia sent out a summary of things that need to be changed in the spec in regards to multitrack api
- 16:21:21 [Stevef]
- eric: believe it had consensus
- 16:21:31 [Stevef]
- mike: to do resolution
- 16:21:56 [oedipus]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0177.html
- 16:22:07 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/text-associations/
- 16:22:13 [MikeSmith]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The a11y TF resolves that the Multitrack API proposal -- after Silvia makes the changes she outlined by e-mail -- is ready for wider review by the HTML WG, with the understanding that the a11y TF supports it and that related proposals needed to fully resolve the related issue are still under discussion and will be brought to the HTML WG later.
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0178.html
- 16:23:22 [MikeSmith]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0199.html <- Dick's message
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- 16:24:00 [Stevef]
- dick: minority opinion re tracks proposal, form our SMIL experienece, things being merged, not particularly clean and locks into approach, should decouple slection and synchronization, proposal doesn't handle it cleanly, not a wise combination from SMIL experienec
- 16:24:32 [MikeSmith]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0203.html <- Philip's reply
- 16:24:53 [Stevef]
- eric: i don't think we are too far down the path to change, if something else makes more sens, maybe we hold of on sending to html wg to discuss further
- 16:25:06 [oedipus]
- plus 1 to eric
- 16:25:20 [Stevef]
- janina: also would like discussion on TF call before sending to WG
- 16:25:50 [Stevef]
- eric: hoped people who had an opinion would have jumped in on mailing list discussion
- 16:26:18 [Stevef]
- dick: will provide SMIL examples of approach, design philosophy
- 16:26:48 [Stevef]
- dick: do not want to obstruct but think there are things current proposal does not cover
- 16:27:08 [Stevef]
- mike: more discussion is good, so go for it
- 16:27:39 [Stevef]
- mike: better to take more mature proposal
- 16:27:56 [Stevef]
- eric: issue will come up so need to talk more
- 16:28:49 [Stevef]
- Mike: would be nice to expidite it and value in getting wider discussion
- 16:29:19 [Stevef]
- Mike: will look at it start of next week status check
- 16:29:26 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, drop item 3
- 16:29:26 [Zakim]
- agendum 3, decision on Multitrack API proposal to HTML WG: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_MultitrackAPI, dropped
- 16:29:37 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, take up item 4
- 16:29:37 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "status of TextAssociations proposal: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_TextAssociations" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 16:30:00 [Stevef]
- mike: text association proposal, eric summary?
- 16:30:12 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/media-text-format/?
- 16:30:43 [Stevef]
- eric: sylvia went through all emails, summarised issues that need to eb addressed before we send to wider group, not a long list of changes
- 16:31:02 [oedipus]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0177.html
- 16:31:05 [MikeSmith]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0177.html
- 16:31:42 [Stevef]
- mike: more discussion on formats is neceserry, will need to move file formats from change request
- 16:32:08 [Stevef]
- mike: some people won't support this
- 16:32:28 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_TextAssociations
- 16:32:55 [Stevef]
- mike: we have a choice, the file formats part is what we don't have agreement on, but sylvia thinks this won't happen soon, so remove from proposal
- 16:33:27 [Stevef]
- mike: anybody on the call today object from removing the formats section for now?
- 16:33:42 [oedipus]
- sylvia: "not clear what requirements would necessitate more than just srt - I am planning on a separate discussion thread as soon as the format survey is closed. For now we will probably need to remove the section about file formats from the change request "
- 16:34:31 [Stevef]
- eric: if we remove ot from the propsoal, have to have wording to say why , with a goal to coming up with some format requirment as this will never fly unless we have some sort of format reuirement
- 16:34:52 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/text-associations/
- 16:35:10 [oedipus]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/text-associations/results
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- 16:35:55 [Stevef]
- dick: formatting issue, what is mandated, needs to be a set of requirements for short to middle term, other part of proposal from my perspective links selection and synchronization together same problem as previouys
- 16:36:34 [Stevef]
- dick: many synchronization concerns glossed over, have these things been talked about, are we interetsed in feedback?
- 16:37:23 [Stevef]
- mike: does seem we have agreement that the requirements aren't clear, what would neccesitate more than SRT, does not ste what format is needed
- 16:37:29 [oedipus]
- FWIW: strongly believe that the popularity of SRT is NOT a reason for it to supersede other formats in HTML5; its widespread use warrants consideration for its inclusion but NOT at the expense of other formats -- especially SmilText -- which support advanced text-display features which are NOT part of SRT
- 16:38:27 [Stevef]
- mike: if we do remove then put disclaimer in to say that this cannot be implemented unless we decide on formats. we are waiting on sylvia to change proposal
- 16:39:10 [Stevef]
- dick: multicolored text, or styled text has this disucssion taken place or have the issues been resolved
- 16:39:43 [Stevef]
- eric: don't think we have had discussions about whether styling is a requirement
- 16:40:38 [Stevef]
- wbgh: need to discuss these to resiolve format issue, i think to move things forward good idea to move format discussion out of current proposal
- 16:40:52 [oedipus]
- s/wbgh: need to/GeoffF: need to/
- 16:41:42 [Zakim]
- +Mike_Barta
- 16:41:55 [Stevef]
- mike: need to list iut the potential set of format requirements, but it is pretty clear the proposal is not ready, take some more time, sylvia needs to make chnages and back out to list for more discussion
- 16:42:16 [Stevef]
- dick: can this be discussed at f2f
- 16:42:29 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, agenda?
- 16:42:29 [Zakim]
- I see 7 items remaining on the agenda:
- 16:42:30 [Zakim]
- 4. status of TextAssociations proposal: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_TextAssociations [from MichaelC]
- 16:42:32 [Stevef]
- mike: yes we can, nee to discuss f2f agenda
- 16:42:33 [Zakim]
- 5. status of summary-details change proposal: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Details_element_as_a_replacement_for_summary_attribute%2C_Feb_15%2C_2010 [from MichaelC]
- 16:42:36 [Zakim]
- 6. f2f planning for April 6-7 meeting [from MichaelC]
- 16:42:38 [Zakim]
- 7. actions review [from MichaelC]
- 16:42:39 [Zakim]
- 8. resolved & rejected bugs review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0168.html [from MichaelC]
- 16:42:41 [paulc]
- the TF should have a concrete plan to decide what to do at the F2F and what NOT to do at the F2F and will be done separately.
- 16:42:42 [Zakim]
- 9. any other business [from MichaelC]
- 16:42:44 [Zakim]
- 10. next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe [from MichaelC]
- 16:43:01 [Stevef]
- dick: don't know who is going to be there
- 16:43:07 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, drop item 4
- 16:43:07 [Zakim]
- agendum 4, status of TextAssociations proposal: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_TextAssociations, dropped
- 16:43:27 [MikeSmith]
- zakim, take up item 6
- 16:43:27 [Zakim]
- agendum 6. "f2f planning for April 6-7 meeting" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 16:43:30 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/11-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
- 16:43:51 [Stevef]
- mike@ f2f agenda planning: topics?
- 16:45:01 [Stevef]
- mike: jeff will not be ther inperson, but via phone, eric will be there, philip from opera may not be there
- 16:45:06 [oedipus]
- s/mike@ f2f/mike: f2f/
- 16:45:47 [Stevef]
- mike: should be high on agenda, but may not get much done if right people are not attending
- 16:46:04 [Stevef]
- mike: MC , JS agendas?
- 16:46:49 [MikeSmith]
- paulc, can you speak briefly on the call today to give some suggestions about how best to plan for the f2f?
- 16:46:55 [Stevef]
- janina: list of topcs, may be useful to look at the list, also poepl to adopt items from list
- 16:47:32 [MichaelC]
- -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Work_Topics Topic List
- 16:48:24 [Stevef]
- cyns: is API mapping on there/
- 16:48:54 [Stevef]
- paulC; how is it that mapping is an issue?
- 16:49:14 [Stevef]
- cyns: indivdiual bugs for individual issues
- 16:49:15 [paulc]
- See http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/138
- 16:50:41 [oedipus]
- SF: been response to some of statement of issues; some sorted, some unsorted; action for production of matrix still in progress; will work on it second day of PF face2face at CSUN
- 16:50:46 [oedipus]
- CS: easier to do in person
- 16:50:48 [paulc]
- If this action is generating bugs rather than related to existing bugs that is a good explanation.
- 16:51:47 [Stevef]
- can somebody scribe now, i have to go
- 16:52:05 [Stevef]
- oedipus??
- 16:52:11 [Zakim]
- -Geoff_Freed
- 16:52:34 [oedipus]
- scribenick: oedipus
- 16:52:39 [Zakim]
- -Stevef
- 16:53:05 [paulc]
- Paul suggests that the facilitators clearly define what issues will be on the F2F agenda and what actions the TF plans to take at the F2F.
- 16:53:18 [oedipus]
- MS: trying to figure out if specific action anyone can take on f2f planning; Janina and i need to get proposed agenda out A.S.A.P.; prior to that, more specific info about what needed to do to get agenda ready?
- 16:53:22 [oedipus]
- CS: phone bridge?
- 16:53:30 [oedipus]
- MC: made sure is a possibility for them
- 16:53:36 [oedipus]
- CS: can't travel to england that week
- 16:53:45 [oedipus]
- JS: there is a U.K. phone number to access Zakim
- 16:53:59 [oedipus]
- MS: Cooper, anything else to do in last 7 minutes to get closer to prep for f2f
- 16:54:28 [oedipus]
- CS: something that might help is to ask those who can't attend or call in to submit position paper or similar if want to make point; find a champion who is attending
- 16:54:47 [oedipus]
- JS: list that MSmit read off -- first half have tackled and are at some stage of resulution
- 16:55:14 [oedipus]
- JS: bottom half of list haven't started on at all -- some of those might move forward if can get volunteers to come up with proposals
- 16:56:05 [oedipus]
- MS: sounds possible; worry about adding more stuff to f2f discussion plans because don't want it to be overwhelming;
- 16:56:12 [paulc]
- I have to leave to get ready to scribe the HTML WG meeting. Thanks.
- 16:56:29 [oedipus]
- MS: adding more topics may risk productivity
- 16:56:48 [oedipus]
- JS: long, prolonged controversial items, yes, but some low-hanging fruit like headers/id, and summary
- 16:56:58 [oedipus]
- MS: have starting point for list of f2f topics
- 16:57:12 [oedipus]
- MS: paul advised to distill down to specific topics
- 16:57:31 [oedipus]
- MS: about to loose a lot of partipants due to commencement of HTML WG telecon
- 16:57:35 [oedipus]
- MS: Janina, chair next week?
- 16:57:48 [oedipus]
- JS: yes; may be a lot of people missing in 2 weeks due to CSUN
- 16:58:01 [oedipus]
- MS: will be in cambridge, mass on 25 march 2010
- 16:58:07 [oedipus]
- JS: try to hold meeting or skip?
- 16:58:12 [oedipus]
- MS: decide next week
- 16:58:23 [oedipus]
- MS: make agenda item for next week -- meeting on 25 march 2010
- 16:59:07 [oedipus]
- JS: reminder - U.S. goes to Daylight Savings Time on Sunday, 14 march 2010 - meetings an hour earlier (w3c time pegged to E.S.T.)
- 16:59:19 [oedipus]
- CS: unable to participate much before CSUN
- 16:59:24 [Zakim]
- -[Microsoft]
- 16:59:26 [oedipus]
- MS: ADJOURN
- 16:59:32 [oedipus]
- [ADJOURNED]
- 16:59:35 [Zakim]
- -Mike_Barta
- 16:59:36 [Zakim]
- -Dick_Bulterman
- 16:59:37 [Zakim]
- -Michael_Cooper
- 16:59:38 [Zakim]
- -Eric_Carlson
- 16:59:39 [Zakim]
- -Ben_Caldwell
- 16:59:39 [Zakim]
- -Rich
- 16:59:40 [Ben]
- Ben has left #html-a11y
- 16:59:41 [Zakim]
- -Matt
- 16:59:45 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/11-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
- 16:59:45 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, drop Mike
- 16:59:45 [Zakim]
- Mike is being disconnected
- 16:59:46 [Zakim]
- -Mike
- 16:59:49 [Zakim]
- -Gregory_Rosmaita
- 16:59:51 [Zakim]
- -Janina
- 16:59:52 [Zakim]
- WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended
- 16:59:54 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Janina, Stevef, Michael_Cooper, Mike, Gregory_Rosmaita, Dick_Bulterman, Rich, Eric_Carlson, Matt, Ben_Caldwell, paulc, +1.617.300.aaaa, Geoff_Freed, Mike_Barta
- 17:00:13 [oedipus]
- present- +1.617.300.aaaa
- 17:00:16 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/11-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
- 17:00:21 [janina]
- janina has left #html-a11y
- 17:00:56 [oedipus]
- zakim, please part
- 17:00:56 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #html-a11y
- 17:02:42 [oedipus]
- rrsagent, please part
- 17:02:42 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items