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16:56:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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16:56:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
16:56:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
16:56:44 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:56:44 <trackbot> Date: 09 March 2010
16:56:52 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010Mar/0016.html
16:56:57 <mhausenblas> Chair: Ahmed
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16:57:06 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas 
16:57:29 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin
16:57:36 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:57:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:57:43 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, make logs public
16:58:43 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Richard
16:58:46 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has now started
16:58:51 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Li
16:58:53 <Zakim> + +1.562.249.aaaa
16:58:58 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Ben
16:59:00 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aabb
16:59:03 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:59:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:59:37 <Zakim> +juansequeda
16:59:47 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
16:59:56 <mhausenblas> Zakim, nunolopes is with mhausenblas 
16:59:56 <Zakim> +nunolopes; got it
17:00:07 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:00:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.562.249.aaaa, +1.603.897.aabb, juansequeda, mhausenblas
17:00:09 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, nunolopes
17:00:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see Marcelo, Zakim, RRSAgent, Seema, juansequeda, MacTed, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:00:13 <Zakim> +??P15
17:00:14 <Ashok> Ashok has joined #rdb2rdf
17:00:39 <Seema> +897.aabb is Seema
17:00:50 <Ahmed> Ahmed has joined #RDB2RDF
17:01:36 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
17:01:44 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
17:01:44 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
17:01:47 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
17:01:47 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
17:02:48 <Seema> Zakim, .+1.603.897.aabb is me
17:02:48 <Zakim> sorry, Seema, I do not recognize a party named '.+1.603.897.aabb'
17:03:01 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
17:03:09 <MacTed> Zakim, aabb is Seema
17:03:09 <Zakim> +Seema; got it
17:03:33 <Seema> Thanks MacTed
17:03:43 <MacTed> hth
17:03:44 <Zakim> +Souri_Das
17:03:54 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Soeren
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17:04:42 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: accept minutes from last telecon http://www.w3.org/2010/03/02-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
17:05:03 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: WG accepts minutes from last telecon http://www.w3.org/2010/03/02-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
17:05:10 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/open
17:05:25 <Zakim> + +39.046.128.aacc
17:05:35 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
17:06:01 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
17:06:24 <mhausenblas> ACTION-30?
17:06:24 <trackbot> ACTION-30 -- Angela Fogarolli to put up data integration use-case -- due 2010-03-09 -- OPEN
17:06:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/30
17:06:33 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-30
17:06:33 <trackbot> ACTION-30 Put up data integration use-case closed
17:06:40 <mhausenblas> ACTION-31?
17:06:40 <trackbot> ACTION-31 -- Juan Sequeda to rNA alignment sequence use-cases -- due 2010-03-09 -- OPEN
17:06:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/31
17:06:44 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-31
17:06:44 <trackbot> ACTION-31 RNA alignment sequence use-cases closed
17:06:55 <mhausenblas> ACTION-32?
17:06:55 <trackbot> ACTION-32 -- Sören Auer to use-case for web-publishing -- due 2010-03-09 -- OPEN
17:06:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/32
17:06:59 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-32
17:06:59 <trackbot> ACTION-32 Use-case for web-publishing closed
17:08:04 <mhausenblas> Topic: Team updates
17:08:54 <mhausenblas> Michael: can you please put the link to the Wiki on IRC?
17:09:11 <ericP> hi all, sorry i'm late
17:09:18 <mhausenblas> yes
17:09:22 <ericP> challenges stemming from being on the road
17:09:26 <mhausenblas> hehe
17:09:29 <ericP> working on dialing in now
17:09:35 <Seema> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/RDB-to-RDF_mapping:_A_SQL-based_Approach
17:09:44 <mhausenblas> thanks Seema
17:10:12 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's making noise?
17:10:23 <Zakim> mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
17:11:02 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:11:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.562.249.aaaa, Seema, juansequeda, ??P15, MacTed (muted), Ashok_Malhotra, Souri_Das, +39.046.128.aacc, mhausenblas
17:11:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see angela_UNITN, Ahmed, Ashok, Marcelo, Zakim, RRSAgent, Seema, juansequeda, MacTed, LeeF, nunolopes, mhausenblas, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:12:23 <mhausenblas> Souri reports on progress
17:12:30 <Zakim> +mscottm
17:12:38 <mhausenblas> Ahmed: do the two teams use the same schema?
17:12:47 <mhausenblas> ... needed to compare
17:13:39 <ericP> Zakim, mscottm is temporarily ericP 
17:13:39 <Zakim> +ericP; got it
17:14:08 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:14:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:16:03 <mhausenblas> Ahmed: before we go too far we should have a meeting dedicated to review the two group's output so far and give feedback
17:20:52 <mhausenblas> Michael: will create a FPWD out of the http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements by end of March
17:21:52 <Zakim> -Souri_Das
17:24:06 <mhausenblas> Michael: the teams should 1. have a good name, 2. list their members, 3. be linked from the main Wiki page
17:24:52 <mhausenblas> ... this is actually ericP's ACTION-29
17:25:17 <mhausenblas> Topic: Use Cases
17:25:24 <mhausenblas> ericP: we have 5 UC currently
17:25:46 <mhausenblas> ... UC1 HCLS RDB2RDF
17:25:56 <mhausenblas> ...  UC2 BioPAX Use Cases
17:26:07 <mhausenblas> ... UC3 Integrating Enterprise Relational databases for tax control
17:27:47 <mhausenblas> s/we have 5 UC currently/we have six UC currently
17:28:10 <mhausenblas> ericP: UC4 ... Web applications
17:28:18 <mhausenblas> ... UC5 Uniprot
17:28:30 <mhausenblas> ... UC6 rCAD: RNA Comparative Analysis Database
17:30:23 <mhausenblas> Michael: I'd suggest to merge UC1, UC2 and UC5
17:30:32 <mhausenblas> ... we need to be balanced
17:33:31 <mhausenblas> Michael: please, all UC writers have a look at http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-scenarios/ for examples; this is how I'd expect UC to look like
17:34:01 <mhausenblas> ... or also http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-dawg-uc/#uc
17:34:50 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:34:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:39:08 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
17:39:08 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
17:46:15 <mhausenblas> (group discusses focus and motivation for UC)
17:48:36 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
17:48:36 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
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17:49:27 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
17:49:27 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
17:50:03 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
17:50:08 <mhausenblas> again
17:50:09 <mhausenblas> sorry
17:50:28 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
17:51:00 <mhausenblas> I dunno what is happening, third time, today that the damn system drops
17:52:55 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:52:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:53:49 <mhausenblas> WG agrees that the overall motivation is to expose RDF on the Web, stemming from a relational DB
17:55:39 <mhausenblas> MacTed: we have structured data in the SQL
17:55:59 <mhausenblas> ... we have out there, on the Web a lot of unstructured data such as HTML, PDF, etc
17:57:04 <mhausenblas> ... boils down to motivate 'why do I want to have RDF (out of RDB)'
17:57:05 <ericP> RRSAgent, please mute me
17:57:05 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'please mute me', ericP.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:59:32 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make ericP perma-scribe', mhausenblas.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:59:37 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
18:00:40 <mhausenblas> ACTION: MacTed to sum up UC overview in the UC page
18:00:40 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - MacTed
18:01:01 <ericP> ack me
18:02:43 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
18:02:43 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
18:02:57 <MacTed> mhausenblas - tthibodeau ... but I don't seem to be officially rdb2rdf member
18:03:38 <mhausenblas> ACTION: tthibodeau to sum up UC overview in the UC page
18:03:38 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - tthibodeau
18:03:53 <MacTed> hrm.  that's odd.
18:03:57 <Zakim> -??P15
18:04:00 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
18:04:03 <Zakim> -Seema
18:04:04 <Zakim> -juansequeda
18:04:05 <Zakim> - +39.046.128.aacc
18:04:06 <Zakim> -MacTed
18:04:08 <Zakim> - +1.562.249.aaaa
18:04:09 <mhausenblas> hm, MacTed please ask Kingsley or whoever is your AC rep to nominate you
18:04:12 <ericP> Zakim, please disconnect ericP
18:04:12 <Zakim> ericP is being disconnected
18:04:14 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has ended
18:04:15 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.562.249.aaaa, +1.603.897.aabb, juansequeda, mhausenblas, nunolopes, MacTed, Ashok_Malhotra, Seema, Souri_Das, +39.046.128.aacc, ericP
18:04:15 <MacTed> will do
18:04:17 <Marcelo> Marcelo has left #rdb2rdf
18:04:18 <mhausenblas> thanks!
18:04:28 <mhausenblas> but your actions still stands, right? :)
18:04:37 <mhausenblas> even if not officially recorded ...
18:04:41 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:04:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:04:49 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list attendees
18:04:49 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I don't know what conference this is
18:04:50 <MacTed> trouble is I can't currently log in to the wiki
18:05:06 <mhausenblas> yes, MacTed, because you;re not officially a member ...
18:05:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim,  this was SW_RDB2RDF(
18:05:26 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this was SW_RDB2RDF(', mhausenblas
18:05:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim,  this was SW_RDB2RDF
18:05:28 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this was SW_RDB2RDF', mhausenblas
18:05:35 <mhausenblas> Zakim,  this is SW_RDB2RDF
18:05:35 <Zakim> mhausenblas, I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_RDB2RDF".
18:05:43 <mhausenblas> Zakim,  this is SW_RDB2RDF()
18:05:43 <Zakim> mhausenblas, I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_RDB2RDF()".
18:05:53 <mhausenblas> oh screw you, bot
18:05:58 <MacTed> what I said was roughly:
18:05:58 <MacTed> 3 use cases:  
18:05:58 <MacTed> 1. join structured data to structured data, in incompatible schema
18:05:58 <MacTed> 2. join structured data to semi-structured (i.e., triples)
18:05:58 <MacTed> 3. join structured data to unstructured (i.e., the Web)
18:06:08 <MacTed> each gives motivation for RDB2RDF transformation
18:06:14 <mhausenblas> ok, please send it to the list and I'll integrate it then ...
18:06:19 <MacTed> ok
18:06:21 <mhausenblas> thanks
18:06:33 <juansequeda> juansequeda has joined #RDB2RDF
18:06:39 <mhausenblas> zakim, bye
18:06:39 <Zakim> Zakim has left #rdb2rdf
18:06:43 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye
18:06:43 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-actions.rdf :
18:06:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: MacTed to sum up UC overview in the UC page [1]
18:06:43 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-irc#T18-00-40
18:06:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: tthibodeau to sum up UC overview in the UC page [2]
18:06:43 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-rdb2rdf-irc#T18-03-38