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17:05:44 <mscottm> Hi, anybody here? I can't hear anyone on hcls2
17:06:18 <ericP> Zakim, this is hcls
17:06:18 <Zakim> hcls matches both SW_HCLS(TERM)12:00PM and SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM, ericP
17:06:23 <ericP> Zakim, this is Term
17:06:23 <Zakim> ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS(TERM)12:00PM
17:06:31 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-officee
17:06:31 <Zakim> I am sorry, ericP; I do not know a number for ericP-officee
17:06:32 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office\
17:06:32 <Zakim> I am sorry, ericP; I do not know a number for ericP-office\
17:06:34 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
17:06:34 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
17:06:36 <Zakim> +EricP
17:06:52 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
17:06:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see HaroldSolbrig, mscottm, EricP
17:06:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, mscottm, solbrig, Zakim, johnM, ericP
17:10:49 <mscottm> scott: brings up serving UMLS terms from a different location than UMLS, would it be possible?
17:11:12 <mscottm> harold: I've looked into this type of thing for some time in the context of HL7
17:12:09 <mscottm> ..NLM thinks it would require 'semantic lifting' although I'm not entirely convinced
17:13:49 <mscottm> ..example: take 'cabernet sauvignon' from wine ontology, remove namespace and replace it with PURL namespace of bioportal
17:15:12 <johnM> Hi all I will be back on momentarily
17:16:12 <Zakim> +John_Madden
17:22:09 <mscottm> http://sharedterm/snomedct/1234567
17:22:37 <mscottm> http://sharedterm/umls/12345678
17:24:17 <mscottm> two issues: 1) using the same URI 2) providing RDF when you resolve that URI
17:24:26 <solbrig> urn:iso:2.16.840.1.113883.6.92:12345678
17:25:09 <solbrig> URI to cannonical URI:  f(urn:iso:2.16.840.1.1138836.92) --> http://sharedterm.org/snocmetct/1234567
17:25:52 <solbrig> f(http://sharedterm.org/snomedct/1234567) --> http://sharedterm.org/snomedct/1234567
17:26:13 <solbrig> f(http://sharedterm.org/snomedct/) --> http://sharedterm.org/snomedct/
17:27:37 <solbrig> the challenge is the "1234567"
17:32:11 <solbrig> Two issues:  (1) there are many URI's for 1234567 in SNOMED and (2) there are multiple renderings for SNOMDE 1234567
17:33:13 <solbrig> (1) Someone need a map from many URI's to a (contextual) cannonical URI
17:33:28 <solbrig> (e.g. http://purlz.og/sct/)
17:37:27 <solbrig> What this allows is, instead of telling HL7 "your URI's are no good", we say - use this URL and we will return the source (e.g. IHTSDO) URI, which you can then use on the web
17:38:00 <solbrig> Use the URL (purlz.org/uri/urn:iso:216.840.1.113883.6.92) to the http://ihtsdo.org/
17:40:57 <solbrig> or http://purlz.org/uri/http://ihtsdo.org/ --> http://ihtsdo.org/
17:45:48 <mscottm> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/CSHALS2010/Tutorial#outline
17:49:16 <solbrig> Actually, what I would hope happens is that http://purlz.org/uri/urn:iso:2.16.840.1.113883.6.92 --> http://purlz.org/ontology/ which, in turn, dereferences to the appropriate RDF or other resources....
17:51:17 <mscottm> harold: CDM is a metadata interchange format for clinical trial data from CDISC (there's another CDM too..)
17:52:41 <mscottm> NCBO is looking at the type of RDF that they will serve, looking at SKOS..
17:53:44 <solbrig> Also, CTS2 is looking at SKOS/RDF rendering of the LexGrid rendering of UMLS, SNOMED, etc.
17:54:10 <solbrig> So that is another path that may acutally work slightly better than each community coming up with their own RDF
17:54:51 <solbrig> We are working with Nigam and Natasha on this as well.
17:55:03 <solbrig> NCBO == Stanford + Mayo
17:55:14 <mscottm> great!
17:55:17 <Zakim> -John_Madden
17:55:21 <Zakim> -HaroldSolbrig
17:55:22 <Zakim> -EricP
17:55:24 <Zakim> -mscottm
17:55:25 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(TERM)12:00PM has ended
17:55:26 <Zakim> Attendees were HaroldSolbrig, mscottm, EricP, John_Madden
17:55:51 <mscottm>   RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:55:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/22-hcls2-minutes.html mscottm
17:55:56 <mscottm>   RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
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