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16:58:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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16:58:39 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
16:58:39 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
16:58:40 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:58:40 <trackbot> Date: 16 February 2010
16:59:02 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010Feb/0012.html
16:59:08 <mhausenblas> Chair: Ahmed 
16:59:38 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has now started
16:59:45 <Zakim> + +1.562.249.aaaa
16:59:59 <Zakim> + +1.512.471.aabb
17:00:11 <mhausenblas> scribenick: Ashok 
17:00:24 <Zakim> + +1.603.860.aacc
17:00:29 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:00:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
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17:00:40 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
17:00:52 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, make logs public
17:00:52 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
17:00:52 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
17:00:53 <Zakim> +EricP
17:01:13 <Zakim> +??P0
17:01:14 <Zakim> +??P31
17:01:30 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
17:02:04 <Souri> zakim, who is on the phone?
17:02:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.562.249.aaaa, +1.512.471.aabb, +1.603.860.aacc, mhausenblas, EricP, ??P0, ??P31, Ashok_Malhotra
17:02:10 <Zakim> + +1.781.273.aadd
17:02:17 <Souri> zakim, ??p31 is me
17:02:17 <Zakim> +Souri; got it
17:02:21 <MacTed> Zakim, aadd is OpenLink_Software
17:02:21 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software; got it
17:02:27 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
17:02:27 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
17:02:30 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
17:02:30 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
17:02:46 <Ashok> scribenick:  Ashok
17:02:47 <juansequeda> zakim, aabb is me
17:02:47 <Zakim> +juansequeda; got it
17:03:00 <MacTed> I have local IRC logs, in a worst case
17:03:09 <Seema> zakim, +1.603.860.aacc is me
17:03:09 <Zakim> +Seema; got it
17:03:33 <angela_UNITN> angela_UNITN has joined #RDB2RDF
17:03:55 <Ashok> Topic:  Minutes from Feb 9
17:04:38 <Zakim> + +039046128aaee
17:04:47 <Ashok> Problem with missing minutes
17:04:55 <angela_UNITN> angela
17:05:01 <mhausenblas> aaee is angela_UNITN 
17:05:17 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:05:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.562.249.aaaa, juansequeda, Seema, mhausenblas, EricP, ??P0, Souri, Ashok_Malhotra, MacTed (muted), +039046128aaee
17:05:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see angela_UNITN, Souri, Zakim, Ashok, RRSAgent, Marcelo, Seema, Ahmed, juansequeda, MacTed, mhausenblas, nunolopes, trackbot, iv_an_ru, ericP
17:05:28 <Ashok> Eric has IRC log
17:06:23 <Ashok> Eric:  Action 25 was only action that was created
17:06:36 <Souri> harry did
17:07:50 <Ashok> Ahmed:  You took an action to tell us how to subscribe to updates from the Wiki
17:08:06 <Ashok> Harry sent out mail.  Just resent
17:08:37 <Zakim> -Seema
17:08:46 <Ashok> Topic:  Roll callSoeren and Richard sent regrets
17:08:49 <nunolopes> Zakim, nunolopes is with mhausenblas
17:08:49 <Zakim> +nunolopes; got it
17:08:58 <Ashok> s/call/call /
17:09:05 <Zakim> +Seema
17:09:11 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Richard
17:09:12 <Ashok> Regrets+ Li Ma
17:09:16 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Soeren
17:09:36 <Ashok> regrets+ Ben
17:09:51 <Ashok> Topic:  2 teams
17:10:13 <Ashok> Ahmed:  we made 2 teams SQL and RDF
17:10:26 <Zakim> +??P38
17:10:35 <Ashok> Eric will lead RDF team and Souri will lead SQL team
17:10:49 <Ashok> Eric and Souri will work on usecases
17:11:14 <Souri> that sounds fine
17:11:27 <Ashok> Eric confirms the above is accurate
17:11:48 <Ashok> present+ Orri
17:11:53 <mhausenblas> P38 is Orri
17:11:58 <Ashok> Eric:  I have some progress
17:12:16 <Ashok> ... I updated wiki with usecase
17:12:35 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:12:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:13:08 <Ashok> Eric explains usecase
17:14:06 <mhausenblas> test
17:14:07 <ericP> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010Feb/att-0020/SparqlToSparqlToSqlTest.scala
17:14:13 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements
17:15:07 <MacTed> Zakim, ??P38 is Orri
17:15:08 <Zakim> +Orri; got it
17:15:55 <Ashok> Eric:  The Scala code is attached to msg sent to the WG list
17:16:07 <Ashok> Ahmed:  Souri, any progress?
17:16:49 <Ashok> Souri:  I looked at what Soeren put in and compared with what we put in as XML syntax
17:17:06 <Ashok> ... ideas are very similar
17:18:01 <mhausenblas> s/test/Eric, pointers please?
17:18:10 <Ashok> ... some complex cases, otherwise very similar.
17:18:14 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:18:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:18:23 <Ashok> ... Need to find the best sysntax
17:18:38 <Ashok> s/sysntax/syntax/
17:18:54 <Ashok> Ahmed:  How are teams communicating?
17:19:12 <mhausenblas> Michael: encourage to use the RDB2RDF WG mailing list
17:19:13 <Ashok> Michael:  Pl. use WG mailing list
17:19:47 <Ashok> Souri:  We may also have some private communication among the group.
17:20:36 <Ashok> Ahmed:  We also discussed last week a f2f meeting during SemTech conference ... perhaps Sunday and Friday
17:21:30 <Ashok> Souri:  I could edit the Wiki or I could send out proposals on email
17:21:45 <Ashok> Ahmed:  Perhaps using email is better
17:22:56 <Ashok> Discussion about editing the Wiki
17:23:40 <Ashok> ... there is an editing history
17:24:17 <Ashok> Michael:  We have not updated Wiki with f2f meeting dates
17:24:55 <mhausenblas> ACTION: mhausenb to create F2F Wiki page
17:24:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-26 - Create F2F Wiki page [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-02-23].
17:25:06 <ericP> 2010-02-09T17:56:30Z <nunolopes> ericP: how about Friday? towards the end of the conference?
17:25:10 <ericP> 2010-02-09T17:56:37Z <nunolopes> Ahmed: I agree
17:25:12 <ericP> 2010-02-09T17:56:43Z <nunolopes> Souri: I agree
17:25:35 <Ashok> Ahmed:  Any other items?
17:25:58 <Ashok> Michael:  These was mail abt the provenance stuff
17:26:20 <Ashok> ... I forwarded to WG list
17:26:46 <Ashok> ... we may want to invite him to present to us at one of our telcons
17:29:04 <Ashok> Souri:  Some of the document is relevant to us
17:29:28 <Ashok> ... this is metadata about what we are doing
17:29:43 <Ashok> ... should we invite him early or later
17:30:09 <Ashok> Ahmed:  We can invite him early while teams are discussing syntax
17:31:34 <Ashok> Suoru and Seema out next week
17:31:57 <Souri> s/Suoru/Souri/
17:32:33 <mhausenblas> ACTION: mhausenb to invite Olaf some time in the future (will be decided by group)
17:32:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-27 - Invite Olaf some time in the future (will be decided by group) [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-02-23].
17:33:20 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:33:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.562.249.aaaa, juansequeda, mhausenblas, EricP, ??P0, Souri, Ashok_Malhotra, MacTed (muted), +039046128aaee (muted), Seema, Orri
17:33:22 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, nunolopes
17:33:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see angela_UNITN, Souri, Zakim, Ashok, RRSAgent, Marcelo, Seema, Ahmed, juansequeda, MacTed, mhausenblas, nunolopes, trackbot, iv_an_ru, ericP
17:34:07 <Ashok> Angela:  I'm here
17:34:27 <Ashok> ... what were you asking me?  I was on mute.
17:35:04 <Ashok> ... I implemented first usecase and was able to integreate the data
17:35:32 <Ashok> ... I cannot publish real data but I could publish some fake data
17:36:15 <Ashok> Orri asks abt relationship between entities
17:36:41 <Ashok> Angela:  This is easy as we map to our ontology
17:39:45 <Ashok> ... I have a demo with 10 data sources and ... pieces of data
17:40:07 <Ashok> ... the data is a dump of MySQL and some text files
17:40:58 <Ashok> ... we create a triple-store with this data.  They have OKKAM ids in them.
17:41:30 <Ashok> ... may need multiple triple stores
17:42:04 <Ashok> ... when we create SQL queries we can add where the data resides
17:42:46 <Ashok> Orri:  May want to keep data relationally if schema does not change too often
17:44:26 <Ashok> Angela:  I can add examples
17:45:02 <Ashok> Eric:  I would be useful if it was in Relational form and what you want as RDF representation
17:45:05 <Souri> rel schema and the corr rdf schema
17:46:28 <angela_UNITN> sorry the connection is terrible...
17:46:48 <Zakim> -EricP
17:46:49 <Zakim> -Souri
17:46:49 <Zakim> -Orri
17:46:51 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
17:46:52 <Ashok> Ahmed:  Adjourn early
17:46:53 <Zakim> -Seema
17:46:54 <Zakim> -MacTed
17:46:54 <Zakim> - +039046128aaee
17:46:55 <Zakim> -juansequeda
17:47:02 <Souri> regrets for next week
17:47:02 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:47:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:47:07 <Ashok> rrsagent, pointer?
17:47:07 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-47-07
17:47:11 <juansequeda> ericP, do you have the ddl of the usecase?
17:47:17 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list attendees
17:47:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.562.249.aaaa, +1.512.471.aabb, mhausenblas, EricP, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.781.273.aadd, Souri, MacTed, juansequeda, Seema, +039046128aaee,
17:47:20 <Zakim> ... nunolopes, Orri
17:47:23 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:47:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:47:34 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
17:47:39 <Zakim> -??P0
17:47:40 <Zakim> - +1.562.249.aaaa
17:47:41 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has ended
17:47:42 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.562.249.aaaa, +1.512.471.aabb, mhausenblas, EricP, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.781.273.aadd, Souri, MacTed, juansequeda, Seema, +039046128aaee, nunolopes, Orri
17:48:22 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye
17:48:22 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-actions.rdf :
17:48:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mhausenb to create F2F Wiki page [1]
17:48:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-24-55
17:48:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mhausenb to invite Olaf some time in the future (will be decided by group) [2]
17:48:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-32-33
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