IRC log of wai-wcag on 2010-02-11

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG

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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 11 February 2010

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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started

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+Katie_Haritos-Shea

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+??P5

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+David_MacDonald

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-David_MacDonald

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+ +1.781.839.aaaa

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+David_MacDonald

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+Michael_Cooper

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+ +1.443.415.aabb

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zakim, +1.781 is Andrew_Kirkpatrick

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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it

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+[Oracle]

21:02:44 [MichaelC]

zakim, ??P5 is Gregg_Vanderheiden

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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it

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zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell

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+Ben_Caldwell; got it

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+??P11

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michael - I don't have ben

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zakim, +1.443 is Bruce_Bailey

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+Bruce_Bailey; got it

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zakim, ??P11 is Ben_Caldwell

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+Ben_Caldwell; got it

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he is separate today

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zakim, Ben has left Gregg

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MichaelC, I was not aware that Ben was in Gregg

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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid

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looks like ben overrode your command Michael

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zakim, Gregg no longer has Ben

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Ben was not listed in Gregg_Vanderheiden, MichaelC

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-Ben; got it

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zakim, Oracle has James_Nurthen

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+James_Nurthen; got it

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zakim, Gregg_Vanderheiden no longer has Ben_Caldwell

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-Ben_Caldwell; got it

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-Bruce_Bailey

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scribe: jamesn

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2010JanMar/0026.html

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scribeOptions: -final

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chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid

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regrets: Sofia Celic-Li, Tim_Boland

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TOPIC: Sufficient Flash Tecnhique for SC 1.3.1: Adding summary information to a DataGrid

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RESOLUTION: Accept technique Adding summary information to DataGrid pending actions (sort button and example source code format)

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TOPIC: Sufficient Flash Technique for SC 3.2.5: Specifying a link button ...

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RESOLUTION: leave Sufficient Flash Technique for SC 3.2.5: Specifying a link button ... open

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TOPIC: Sufficient Flash Technique for SC 1.1.1: Providing text alternatives for ASCII art, ...

21:34:44 [jamesn]

RESOLUTION: Accept Sufficient Flash Technique for SC 1.1.1: Providing text alternatives for ASCII art, ... as ammended

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TOPIC: Sufficient Flash Technique for SC 3.3.2: Indicating required form controls in Flash

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RESOLUTION: Accept Sufficient Flash Technique for SC 3.3.2: Indicating required form controls in Flash as ammended.

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TOPIC: Sufficient Technique for SC 2.2.1: Allowing the user to extend the default time limit

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-Gregg_Vanderheiden

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+Andi_Snow_Weaver

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ACTION: awk to change flash movies to flash content where appropriate

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Created ACTION-74 - Change flash movies to flash content where appropriate [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2010-02-18].

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RESOLUTION: Accept Sufficient Technique for SC 2.2.1: Allowing the user to extend the default time limit as amended

22:03:45 [jamesn]

TOPIC: Sufficient Flash Technique for SC 2.2.1: providing a script that warns the user a time limit ...

22:10:01 [MichaelC]

action: cooper to create failure technique for SC 2.2.4 about alerts to warn of impending timeout, a legitimate way to meet 2.2.1 at A but a failure of 2.2.4 at AAA

22:10:01 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-75 - Create failure technique for SC 2.2.4 about alerts to warn of impending timeout, a legitimate way to meet 2.2.1 at A but a failure of 2.2.4 at AAA [on Michael Cooper - due 2010-02-18].

22:10:29 [MichaelC]

action-75: See http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Providing_a_script_that_warns_the_user_a_time_limit_is_about_to_expire for example of the technique that triggered need for this failure

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ACTION-75 Create failure technique for SC 2.2.4 about alerts to warn of impending timeout, a legitimate way to meet 2.2.1 at A but a failure of 2.2.4 at AAA notes added

22:26:49 [jamesn]

RESOLUTION: Leave Sufficient Flash Technique for SC 2.2.1: providing a script that warns the user a time limit ... open.

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RESOLUTON: Leave Using a change event on combobox open

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RESOLUTION: Leave Using a change event on combobox open

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TOPIC: using redundant keyboard and mouse event

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RESOLUTION: Accept using redundant keyboard and mouse event as amended

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TOPIC: Using scripts to control blinking and stop it

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RESOLUTION: Accept Using scripts to control blinking and stop it as proposed

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-David_MacDonald

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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick

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-Ben_Caldwell

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-Katie_Haritos-Shea

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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid

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-[Oracle]

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-Andi_Snow_Weaver

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-Michael_Cooper

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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended

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Attendees were Katie_Haritos-Shea, David_MacDonald, +1.781.839.aaaa, Michael_Cooper, +1.443.415.aabb, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Ben_Caldwell, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid,

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... James_Nurthen, Andi_Snow_Weaver

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22:33:41 [MichaelC]

zakim, bye

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22:33:44 [MichaelC]

rrsagent, bye

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I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: awk to change flash movies to flash content where appropriate [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-wai-wcag-irc#T22-02-40

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ACTION: cooper to create failure technique for SC 2.2.4 about alerts to warn of impending timeout, a legitimate way to meet 2.2.1 at A but a failure of 2.2.4 at AAA [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/11-wai-wcag-irc#T22-10-01