IRC log of ssn on 2010-02-10

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Zakim, this will be 7769

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ok, trackbot; I see INC_SSN()3:00PM scheduled to start in 17 minutes

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Meeting: Semantic Sensor Network Incubator Group Teleconference

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Date: 10 February 2010

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Regrets: Payam, Kevin, Manfred

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agenda+ Roll call

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agenda+ Actions from last meeting

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agenda+ What happened in Dagstuhl?

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agenda+ Next steps for SSN Ontology

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agenda+ AOB

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Chair: Holger

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INC_SSN()3:00PM has now started

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+ +61.2.925.3.aaaa

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zakim, +61.2.925.3.aaaa is me

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+Holger; got it

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zakim, mute me

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sorry, Holger, muting is not permitted when only one person is present

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+ +61.4.097.8.aabb

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zakim, mute me

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Holger should now be muted

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zakim, +61.4.097.8.aabb is me

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+kerry; got it

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zakim, unmute me

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Holger should no longer be muted

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+??P5

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zakim, ??P5 is me

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+rgarcia; got it

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, IPcaller is me

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+Arthur; got it

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zakim, who's on the phone?

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On the phone I see Holger, kerry, rgarcia, Arthur

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+??P0

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+??P0 is laurent_oz

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+??P1

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zkim, ??P1 is me

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zakim, ??P0 is laurent_oz

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+laurent_oz; got it

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zakim, ??P1 is me

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+krzysztof_j; got it

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agenda?

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, [IPcaller] is me

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+michael; got it

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ScibeNick: rgarcia

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Topic: 6-month extension

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Kerry: No reply yet, she will ask again

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Topic: Extending the ontology: observation as record and observation as event

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Alignment of ontology to DOLCE

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ACTION: Krzystof present the alignment to DOLCE next week

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Sorry, couldn't find user - Krzystof

20:14:46 [laurent_oz]

+q

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ack laurent_oz

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+q

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+q

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Laurent: Do we want to include actuators (and the issue of control) in the ontology?

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ack kerry

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-q

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ack Arthur

20:18:50 [rgarcia]

Arthur: Not sure if to include actuators: they are an output of agents or robots and sensors are an input

20:18:57 [michael]

+q

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ack michael

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Arthur: the relationship sensor-actuator must be investigated further

20:20:19 [michael]

I'll submit an issue for it

20:20:25 [laurent_oz]

+q

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ack laurent_oz

20:21:58 [michael]

+q

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ack michael

20:22:32 [rgarcia]

Laurent: What are our expectations for coverage? We started with the CSIRO ontology with covers a lot of concepts and now are in a consensus process starting from a small core

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+q

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Michael: <enumerates the differences between the CSIRO and current ontologies>

20:25:37 [michael]

I'll ad a list

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ack kerry

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+q

20:26:19 [michael]

accuracy, location, physical properties (weight, materials, power, etc), results, deployments,

20:26:20 [rgarcia]

Kerry: we should be driven by the use cases

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ack laurent_oz

20:26:29 [michael]

platforms

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manufacturer, logistics

20:27:15 [rgarcia]

but, nevertheless, we can go in different directions in the development

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-q

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results (conditions, latency, expressions ...)

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+q

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ack michael

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Michael: It would be useful to extend the expressive power of the ontology

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ACTION: Michael will make a proposal to include measurement, device properties and accuracy in the current ontology (with help from others if needed)

20:37:16 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-7 - Will make a proposal to include measurement, device properties and accuracy in the current ontology (with help from others if needed) [on Michael Compton - due 2010-02-17].

20:38:23 [rgarcia]

Michael: we can get ideas from MMI

20:39:50 [Arthur]

Michael was a bit hard to understand (bad sound quality)

20:40:20 [rgarcia]

ACTION: Kerry will take care of the device part

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Created ACTION-8 - Will take care of the device part [on Kerry Taylor - due 2010-02-17].

20:40:54 [michael]

+q

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ack michael

20:43:20 [rgarcia]

Krzysztof: The alignment to DOLCE should not provoke big changes in the ontology

20:44:51 [rgarcia]

trackbot-ng, comment action-7 Michael will cover just accuracy

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ACTION-7 Will make a proposal to include measurement, device properties and accuracy in the current ontology (with help from others if needed) notes added

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+ +1.937.775.aacc

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Kerry: asks for volunteers to draft the ontology report

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Kerry: other reports are needed besides the XG report, even if the final report summarizes all the work

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Kerry: we must not replicate content to avoid inconsistency in reports

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+Q

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Topic: AOB

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ack laurent_oz

20:51:08 [rgarcia]

Laurent: In the semantic markup deliverable, we are not defining new annotation schemas, we are proposing the best practices to annotate

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Laurent: In some cases we are defining new annotations and in other we aren't

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Topic: Dagstuhl

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Amit: The seminar was very good. Materials are online: http://www.dagstuhl.de/Materials/index.en.phtml?10042

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Amit: Discussions were complementary to the ones in our group

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Amit: Questions were performed about the ontology we are developing and its intended use

20:55:28 [krzysztof_j]

what will the book be about (in terms of a special topic)

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Amit: The topic is semantic sensor networks

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Amit: invites people to submit high-quality research

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bye bye

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- +1.937.775.aacc

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-krzysztof_j

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-rgarcia

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-kerry

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-Holger

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-Arthur

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Arthur has left #ssn

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-laurent_oz

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zakim, bye

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leaving. As of this point the attendees were Holger, kerry, rgarcia, Arthur, laurent_oz, krzysztof_j, michael, +1.937.775.aacc

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rrsagent, make log public

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-minutes.html Holger

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rrsagent, bye

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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: Krzystof present the alignment to DOLCE next week [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-irc#T20-14-16

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ACTION: Michael will make a proposal to include measurement, device properties and accuracy in the current ontology (with help from others if needed) [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-irc#T20-37-16

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ACTION: Kerry will take care of the device part [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/10-ssn-irc#T20-40-20