20:47:50 RRSAgent has joined #au 20:47:50 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc 20:47:55 Zakim, this will be AUWG 20:47:55 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 47 minutes ago 20:48:01 Meeting: WAI AU 20:48:07 Agenda: 20:48:36 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0045.html 20:57:20 jeanne has joined #au 20:57:23 Regrets: Tim B. 21:01:57 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 21:02:04 +??P19 21:02:13 AnnM has joined #au 21:02:25 zakim, call jeanne-mobile 21:02:25 ok, jeanne; the call is being made 21:02:26 +Jeanne 21:03:03 +??P22 21:03:56 +??P21 21:04:26 zakim, ??P21 is really Jutta 21:04:26 +Jutta; got it 21:04:50 zakim, ??P19 is really Jan 21:04:50 +Jan; got it 21:05:24 zakim, ??P22 is really AnnM 21:05:24 +AnnM; got it 21:09:56 +Greg 21:11:32 Greg has joined #au 21:13:33 Chair: Jutta Treviranus 21:13:56 Scribe: AnnM 21:14:13 Topic: 1- Working through comments 21:14:30 Topic: (a) freehand drawing term 21:14:35 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0041.html 21:32:07 tabled. 21:32:19 Topic: (b) Rewording Guideline B.1.2 Ensure that the authoring tool preserves accessibility information 21:32:26 After discussion of issues around freehand drawing term, the group agreed to table the discussion for now. 21:34:46 Action JR: Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0043.html 21:34:47 Created ACTION-245 - Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0043.html [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:34:59 Topic: (c) Rewording B.1.3.1 for clarity 21:36:46 Action JR: Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0044.html 21:36:46 Created ACTION-246 - Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0044.html [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:37:00 Topic: (d) Hopefully something "Navigate by structure" wording in A.3.4 21:37:14 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0047.html 21:42:46 Action JR: Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0047.html 21:42:47 Created ACTION-247 - Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0047.html [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:43:16 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html 21:43:34 Topic: (e) Other text that needs finalizing...in the MASTER, search for: 21:45:41 Some success criteria in Part A that are based on WCAG 2.0 may in some cases be more stringent than WCAG 2.0. In most cases, this is because authors need to be able to edit all web content, while certain types of web content (e.g., decoration, invisible content) are not as important to an end user's experience. 21:45:53 Action JR: Put in "Some success criteria in Part A that are based on WCAG 2.0 may in some cases be more stringent than WCAG 2.0. In most cases, this is because authors need to be able to edit all web content, while certain types of web content (e.g., decoration, invisible content) are not as important to an end user's experience. " 21:45:54 Created ACTION-248 - Put in "Some success criteria in Part A that are based on WCAG 2.0 may in some cases be more stringent than WCAG 2.0. In most cases, this is because authors need to be able to edit all web content, while certain types of web content (e.g., decoration, invisible content) are not as important to an end user's experience. " [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:47:42 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.1.2.1 Non-Web-Based Accessible" 21:47:42 Created ACTION-249 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.1.2.1 Non-Web-Based Accessible" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:51:15 Corrected - The intent of this success criterion is to establish an enhanced requirement for keyboard access, without any exceptions. While some "high-end" drawing features, such as a "watercolor painting" tool that continuously sampled the path, pressure and angle of a stylus would be very challenging to make fully keyboard accessible, other less complex functions might be practical.... 21:51:17 ...Web-based authoring tools will already be required to meet this success criterion as part of A.1.1.3. 21:51:34 -Jutta 21:51:56 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Intent of Success Criterion A.3.1.4" 21:51:56 Created ACTION-250 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Intent of Success Criterion A.3.1.4" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:52:51 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.1.5 Customize Keyboard Access" 21:52:51 Created ACTION-251 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.1.5 Customize Keyboard Access" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:54:53 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.1.6 Present Keyboard Commands" 21:54:53 Created ACTION-252 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.1.6 Present Keyboard Commands" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:56:12 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.1 Data Saved (Minimum)" 21:56:12 Created ACTION-253 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.1 Data Saved (Minimum)" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:56:51 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.3 Moving Targets" 21:56:51 Created ACTION-254 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.3 Moving Targets" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:57:57 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.4 Content Edits Saved (Extended)" 21:57:57 Created ACTION-255 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.4 Content Edits Saved (Extended)" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 21:58:38 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.3.1 Static View Option" 21:58:38 Created ACTION-256 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.3.1 Static View Option" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 22:00:00 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Examples of Success Criterion A.3.5.1" 22:00:00 Created ACTION-257 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Examples of Success Criterion A.3.5.1" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 22:01:38 Action JR: Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Intent of Success Criterion A.3.6.2" 22:01:38 Created ACTION-258 - Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Intent of Success Criterion A.3.6.2" [on Jan Richards - due 2010-02-15]. 22:03:57 -Jan 22:03:59 -Jeanne 22:04:13 -AnnM 22:04:42 RRSAgent, make minutes 22:04:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-minutes.html Jan 22:04:51 RRSAgent, set logs public 22:04:58 Zakim, bye 22:04:58 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Jeanne, Jutta, Jan, AnnM, Greg 22:04:58 Zakim has left #au 22:05:07 RRSAgent, bye 22:05:07 I see 14 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-actions.rdf : 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0043.html [1] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-34-46 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0044.html [2] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-36-46 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make the changes proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0047.html [3] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-42-46 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Put in "Some success criteria in Part A that are based on WCAG 2.0 may in some cases be more stringent than WCAG 2.0. In most cases, this is because authors need to be able to edit all web content, while certain types of web content (e.g., decoration, invisible content) are not as important to an end user's experience. " [4] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-45-53 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.1.2.1 Non-Web-Based Accessible" [5] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-47-42 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Intent of Success Criterion A.3.1.4" [6] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-51-56 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.1.5 Customize Keyboard Access" [7] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-52-51 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.1.6 Present Keyboard Commands" [8] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-54-53 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.1 Data Saved (Minimum)" [9] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-56-12 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.3 Moving Targets" [10] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-56-51 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.2.4 Content Edits Saved (Extended)" [11] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-57-57 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "A.3.3.1 Static View Option" [12] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T21-58-38 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Examples of Success Criterion A.3.5.1" [13] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T22-00-00 22:05:07 ACTION: JR to Make change from http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2010/ED-ATAG20-20100208/MASTER-20100208.html referred to as "Intent of Success Criterion A.3.6.2" [14] 22:05:07 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/08-au-irc#T22-01-38