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10:04:38 <jackjansen> zakim, code?
10:04:38 <Zakim> the conference code is 3724 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jackjansen
10:06:12 <davy> regrets from Erik, he is ill
10:06:38 <Yves> Scribe: Yves
10:07:17 <Yves> Topic: Administrativia
10:07:29 <Yves> minutes of last Jan 13th..
10:07:36 <raphael> +1 for accepting the minutes
10:07:38 <Yves> ACCEPTED
10:07:51 <Yves> Charter extension:
10:08:18 <Yves> Yves: heading toward one year
10:09:00 <Yves> Thierry: it will be discussed next tuesday. Main issue is the status of MF 2.0 (that was in the charter)
10:11:03 <Yves> Raphael: charter has wording about changing the charter for future work.
10:11:25 <Yves> Thierry: current goal is to progress MF 1.0 to REC
10:12:17 <Yves> Topic: next f2f
10:13:15 <Zakim> - +0329331aabb
10:13:33 <jackjansen> zakim, [CWI] is me
10:13:33 <Zakim> +jackjansen; got it
10:14:20 <Zakim> + +0329331aacc
10:14:44 <Yves> Raphael: waiting for answers from Conrad & Silvia
10:14:57 <Yves> Jack: they replied
10:16:30 <raphael> Michael, can you dial in now ?
10:16:41 <Yves> more noodling needed...
10:16:44 <raphael> we need your answer regarding date and location for next F2F
10:18:17 <Yves> Raphael: there are actions related to protocol, so we need to close those during the f2f (Conrad should attend for that)
10:18:32 <Yves> Conrad didn't give a full 'ok' for Seoul
10:19:12 <Zakim> + +3539149aadd
10:19:17 <mhausenblas> aadd is me
10:19:27 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aadd is me
10:19:27 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
10:22:12 <Yves> Raphael: heading toward AMS for the next f2f
10:22:28 <Yves> we need to be sure that Conrad can make it virtually
10:22:31 <mhausenblas> +1
10:22:37 <davy> +1
10:23:57 <jackjansen> But for coffeeshops Amsterdam is better
10:24:09 <Zakim> +Davy.a
10:24:14 <Zakim> -Davy
10:25:45 <Yves> Topic: Spec
10:26:13 <Yves> We have discussions about processing requirements, as well as actions on syntax and tests
10:26:27 <raphael> ACTION-126?
10:26:27 <trackbot> ACTION-126 -- Yves Lafon to follow up on error in ABFN for npt -- due 2009-12-23 -- OPEN
10:26:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/126
10:27:50 <Yves> Yves: there are discussion on duration/syntax in header as well, so we might nail both this ntp issue and header syntax in one pass
10:28:05 <Yves> (related to timecodes and non-zero starting point)
10:28:32 <raphael> ACTION-123?
10:28:32 <trackbot> ACTION-123 -- Yves Lafon to come up with ABNF for header syntax -- due 2009-12-09 -- OPEN
10:28:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/123
10:28:54 <raphael> Yves: we should finish that during the F2F meeting
10:29:29 <raphael> ... We need to discuss that with Conrad who has added recently some stuff
10:29:42 <raphael> Jack: how much work is needed for a strawman syntax ?
10:29:47 <raphael> Yves: I think I have done that
10:29:53 <Yves> Yves: tought I already sent it a while ago
10:30:32 <Yves> Yves to investigate on this
10:30:58 <Yves> jack: we need it to pinpoint issues
10:31:25 <raphael> ACTION-125?
10:31:25 <trackbot> ACTION-125 -- Michael Hausenblas to revisit his ednote in section 5 -- due 2009-12-09 -- OPEN
10:31:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/125
10:32:50 <jackjansen> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing
10:32:52 <raphael> We are looking at http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors
10:33:55 <Zakim> + +329331aaee
10:34:06 <Yves> it's in fact Jack's ednote (the second one)
10:34:33 <Zakim> -Davy.a
10:35:19 <Yves> jack: implementation shouldn't make a guess when dealing with broken stuff
10:35:46 <Yves> jack: we must discuss duing the f2f
10:35:59 <raphael> Discussion about whether an over-specified dimension should be an error or not in the group
10:36:59 <Yves> Yves: if there is an error it might be because it's a bug or it's an extension, or maybe it's just something else than a mediafrag
10:37:06 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-125
10:37:06 <trackbot> ACTION-125 Revisit his ednote in section 5 closed
10:37:09 <Yves> so be conservative and do not process errors
10:39:33 <Yves> Raphael: make sure that such discussion happen also around the test cases
10:39:51 <Yves> ie: move/copy the ednote on top of the wiki page
10:40:13 <mhausenblas> ACTION: mhausenb to move the editorial note http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors to the TC (wiki)
10:40:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-129 - Move the editorial note http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors to the TC (wiki) [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-01-27].
10:41:32 <raphael> ACTION-108?
10:41:32 <trackbot> ACTION-108 -- Michael Hausenblas to add the missing test cases in corrib -- due 2009-11-16 -- OPEN
10:41:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108
10:41:40 <raphael> ACTION-115?
10:41:40 <trackbot> ACTION-115 -- Michael Hausenblas to come up with categorization of test cases wrt empty, undefined, etc -- due 2009-09-30 -- OPEN
10:41:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/115
10:42:06 <raphael> ACTION-119?
10:42:06 <trackbot> ACTION-119 -- Yves Lafon to request admins to set up a cvs notifications mailing list and notifications -- due 2009-10-14 -- OPEN
10:42:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119
10:43:02 <Yves> Raphael: so ETA for Michael's issues is next week.
10:43:32 <raphael> ACTION-119?
10:43:32 <trackbot> ACTION-119 -- Yves Lafon to request admins to set up a cvs notifications mailing list and notifications -- due 2009-10-14 -- OPEN
10:43:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119
10:43:43 <Yves> need to check the status
10:44:54 <Yves> jack: regrets for next week
10:45:03 <Zakim> -davy
10:45:10 <Yves> Yves will be at a f2f next week
10:45:37 <Zakim> -Thierry
10:45:39 <Zakim> - +49.300.aaaa
10:45:39 <Zakim> -jackjansen
10:45:40 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
10:45:40 <Zakim> -Yves
10:45:41 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()5:00AM has ended
10:45:42 <Zakim> Attendees were +49.300.aaaa, Thierry, +0329331aabb, Yves, jackjansen, +0329331aacc, Davy, +3539149aadd, mhausenblas, +329331aaee
10:45:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/20-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
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10:46:43 <raphael> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
10:46:51 <raphael> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:47:02 <raphael> Chair: Raphael
10:48:08 <raphael> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:48:52 <raphael> Regrets: Erik, Silvia, Conrad
10:49:05 <raphael> rrsagent, draft minutes
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