12:33:15 RRSAgent has joined #mw4d 12:33:15 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/18-mw4d-irc 12:33:22 zakim, this will be mw4d 12:33:22 ok, steph; I see MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 27 minutes 12:33:34 MEETING: MW4D bi-monthly meeting 12:34:05 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Jan/0015.html 12:34:10 Present:stephane 12:57:27 zakim, code ? 12:57:27 the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph 12:58:43 MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started 12:58:51 + +58160aaaa 12:59:00 zakim, aaaa is me 12:59:00 +steph; got it 12:59:52 nicolas has joined #mw4d 13:00:53 + +31.62.247.aabb 13:01:06 zakim, aabb is Nicolas 13:01:06 +Nicolas; got it 13:01:26 raphael has joined #mw4d 13:02:13 Present+Nicolas 13:05:27 + +41.22.730.aacc 13:05:45 zakim, aacc is Raphael 13:05:45 +Raphael; got it 13:05:58 Present+Raphael 13:06:05 http://haiti.ushahidi.com/ 13:07:11 betty_purwandari has joined #mw4d 13:08:14 http://www.tsfi.org/en/action/emergencies/112-seisme-en-haiti-tsf-deploie-ses-equipes 13:08:48 + +0238059aadd 13:08:58 zakim, aadd is Betty 13:08:58 +Betty; got it 13:09:28 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Jan/0015.html 13:09:42 Topic: approval of last meeting minutes 13:09:48 http://www.w3.org/2009/12/21-mw4d-minutes.html 13:10:04 approved 13:10:25 Topic: discussion of the new charter of the group 13:10:41 http://www.w3.org/2010/01/MW4Dcharter2.html 13:12:23 ArunKumar has joined #mw4d 13:13:14 + +91.99.99.76.aaee 13:13:30 zakim, aaee is arun 13:13:30 +arun; got it 13:13:35 PResent+Arun 13:13:39 PResent+Betty 13:13:48 http://www.w3.org/2010/01/MW4Dcharter2.html 13:15:50 q+ 13:16:37 raphael: clarify "to understand the barriers that prevent people in developing countries to use mobile phones to interact with Web content, and to develop and deploy content and services" 13:16:40 steph: ok 13:17:05 Harnessing social networking for social development? 13:18:09 q+ 13:18:22 ack betty_purwandari 13:18:35 ack arunkumar 13:19:56 arun: be more domain specific, and propose concrete solution 13:27:48 arun: timeline 13:27:57 nicolas: note 1 and 4 close 13:28:01 Yes, I agree with you Stephane and understand the resource constraints. So, all I am suggesting is that we take those into accounts and define more specific goals (small they may be) so that we can reach good concrete solutions when we close the group. 13:29:22 q+ 13:29:28 ack arunkumar 13:31:45 q+ 13:31:51 q+ 13:31:54 q- 13:31:59 ack raphael 13:32:16 raphael: timeline needs to be more detailed 13:36:21 ack me 13:36:52 =q 13:36:55 +q 13:37:29 Yes, you have summarized my proposal well Stephane. 13:38:45 I agree with Nicholas 13:38:53 Business models would vary by domain 13:38:56 I agree that bizmodels are area dependent / subject specific 13:39:24 nicolas: agree we should start domain specific 13:39:26 The players in the ecosystem and stakeholders plus the constraints are different 13:39:27 q+ 13:39:33 ack nicolas 13:39:42 ack raphael 13:41:06 +q 13:41:08 q+ 13:41:15 proposal: changing the split between topics to between domain 13:41:19 ack nicolas 13:41:48 nicolas: i also wanted to mention adoption 13:42:15 how do you do that ? 13:42:30 ack arunkumar 13:43:07 completely in line with Arun 13:43:11 arun: from my experience, it is hard to come with business model that are generic 13:43:26 dependent on the stakeholder 13:43:52 q+ 13:44:04 arun: propose we go one domain by domain 13:45:02 q+ 13:46:34 ack arunkumar 13:46:57 arun: one group can collect bmodel from different domains 13:47:13 bottom-up approach 13:47:18 better 13:48:32 ack steph 13:49:46 got cut 13:49:58 calling back 13:50:05 zakim, code ? 13:50:05 the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph 13:50:11 zakim, who is here ? 13:50:11 On the phone I see steph, Nicolas, Raphael, Betty, arun 13:50:12 On IRC I see ArunKumar, betty_purwandari, raphael, nicolas, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph 13:50:27 come back w/us! 13:50:33 -Betty 13:50:34 zakim, drop me 13:50:34 steph is being disconnected 13:50:36 -steph 13:50:39 yes trying 13:51:16 how many sub-groups are we talking about, then? 13:51:18 +Betty 13:51:33 4 13:51:45 if 4 domains right? 13:51:51 + +67384aaff 13:52:58 5? health, agric, gov, educ, bizmodels? 13:55:07 +1 13:56:08 q+ 13:56:13 q+ 13:57:07 m-commerce or/banking in the charter/ 13:57:31 I agree 13:58:44 stephane: we should decide the priority not in the charter 13:58:55 steph: we leave other topics to enter the group's focus according to available resources (time/people/subject leader) 13:59:00 but based on the resources 14:01:21 q+ 14:01:57 Sorry, I have to leave for another meeting. I'll check the minutes later. Bye. 14:02:01 -Betty 14:03:39 action: nicolas to send a description for the 5th items about adoption strategy 14:04:48 topic:next call 14:05:10 february 8th 14:05:13 yes 14:05:14 fine with me 14:05:24 next call: 8 feb 14:05:27 thanks 14:05:29 Thanks, bye 14:05:30 - +67384aaff 14:05:31 -Raphael 14:05:35 -arun 14:05:47 -Nicolas 14:05:48 MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended 14:05:49 Attendees were +58160aaaa, steph, +31.62.247.aabb, Nicolas, +41.22.730.aacc, Raphael, +0238059aadd, Betty, +91.99.99.76.aaee, arun, +67384aaff 14:09:01 zakim, make log public 14:09:01 I don't understand 'make log public', steph 14:09:09 rrsagent, make log public 14:09:15 rrsagent, make minutes 14:09:15 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/18-mw4d-minutes.html steph 15:42:44 steph has left #mw4d 16:18:20 Zakim has left #mw4d