21:00:59 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 21:00:59 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-irc 21:01:01 RRSAgent, make logs public 21:01:01 Zakim has joined #wai-wcag 21:01:03 Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 21:01:03 ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started 21:01:04 Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 21:01:04 Date: 14 January 2010 21:01:18 test 21:01:38 +??P6 21:02:02 jamesn has joined #wai-wcag 21:02:02 + +1.617.324.aabb 21:02:13 Loretta has joined #wai-wcag 21:02:16 zakim, +1.617 is Michael_Cooper 21:02:16 +Michael_Cooper; got it 21:02:22 +[Oracle] 21:02:34 zakim, ??P6 is Gregg_Vanderheiden 21:02:34 +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it 21:02:34 zakim, Oracle is James_Nurthen 21:02:35 +James_Nurthen; got it 21:04:05 + +1.617.584.aacc 21:04:58 zakim, +1.617 is Andrew_Kirkpatrick 21:04:58 +Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it 21:05:08 + +1.315.457.aadd 21:05:10 + +1.703.761.aaee 21:05:34 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:06:43 greggvanderheiden has joined #wai-wcag 21:10:42 zakim, Bruce_Bailey? is Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:10:42 +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it 21:11:17 bcaldwell has joined #wai-wcag 21:11:31 zakim, Bruce_Bailey is Tim_Boland 21:11:31 sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named 'Bruce_Bailey' 21:11:58 zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell 21:11:58 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 21:13:09 zakim, +1.315 is Tim_Boland 21:13:09 sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.315' 21:13:36 scribe: David 21:14:02 present: Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea,Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:22:54 Resolution: accept 2784, 2786, 2789 as proposed 21:23:44 Topic: Issue 2791: C14: User Agent Notes "keyed off" 21:25:09 Resolution: accept 2791 as amended 21:25:54 Topic: Issue 2792: G18: Description 21:27:35 -Andrew_Kirkpatrick 21:30:01 Action: cooper to create visual examples of G18... 21:30:01 Created ACTION-67 - Create visual examples of G18... [on Michael Cooper - due 2010-01-21]. 21:33:27 Resolution: accept G18 as amended 21:33:51 + +1.781.839.aaff 21:36:17 "Liquid layouts define layout regions that both resize with text, and reflow as needed to display the region on-screen ." 21:37:12 "Liquid layouts define layout regions that both resize with text, and reflow as needed to display the region on the screen ." 21:37:48 zakim, who is making noise? 21:38:05 bcaldwell, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: David_MacDonald (14%) 21:38:15 I was talking 21:38:20 zakim, mute bruce 21:38:20 'bruce' is ambiguous, MichaelC 21:38:26 zakim, mute bruce_bailey 21:38:26 'bruce_bailey' is ambiguous, MichaelC 21:38:37 zakim, mute Bruce_Bailey 21:38:37 'Bruce_Bailey' is ambiguous, bcaldwell 21:38:48 -Bruce_Bailey 21:38:53 zakim, mute bruce_bailey 21:38:53 Bruce_Bailey should now be muted 21:38:56 awk has joined #WAI-WCAG 21:39:12 + +1.443.415.aagg - is perhaps Bruce_Bailey 21:39:14 -Bruce_Bailey 21:39:49 zakim, Bruce_Bailey is Tim_Boland 21:39:49 +Tim_Boland; got it 21:39:56 zakim, +1.443 is Bruce_Bailey 21:39:56 sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.443' 21:40:06 + +1.315.457.aahh 21:40:13 Resolution: 2397 accepted as amended 21:40:23 zakim, Tim is Bruce_Bailey 21:40:23 +Bruce_Bailey; got it 21:40:29 zakim, +1.315 is Tim_Boland 21:40:29 +Tim_Boland; got it 21:41:55 topic: Issue 2794: H69: Example 3 "they" and "them" 21:42:27 -Bruce_Bailey 21:44:05 + +1.443.415.aaii - is perhaps Bruce_Bailey 21:46:01 zakim, who's noisy 21:46:01 I don't understand 'who's noisy', David 21:46:08 zakim, +1.443 is Bruce_Bailey 21:46:08 sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.443' 21:46:27 zakim, who is noisy 21:46:27 I don't understand 'who is noisy', David 21:46:50 zakim who is making noise 21:47:50 Resolution accept 2794 as amended 21:48:13 Resolution: accept 2794 as amended 21:51:59 zakim, who is making noise? 21:52:10 David, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Andrew_Kirkpatrick (20%), David_MacDonald (4%), Michael_Cooper (64%) 21:57:49 -Tim_Boland 22:04:39 - Agree to disagree. 22:04:41 - Too late for WCAG 2 22:04:43 - Focus on UAAG with your concerns to be sure they are covered 22:06:26 WCAG 2 doesn’t require this. And we can't change WCAG at this point. However we really think that this is a User Agent issue and you should be sure that UAAG highlights this as an important feature for user agents 22:08:35 action: bcaldwell to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments 22:08:35 Sorry, couldn't find user - bcaldwell 22:08:48 zakim, I am Ben_Caldwell 22:08:48 sorry, bcaldwell, I do not see a party named 'Ben_Caldwell' 22:09:13 action: Ben_Calwell to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments 22:09:13 Sorry, couldn't find user - Ben_Calwell 22:09:30 zakim, who is on the phone? 22:09:30 On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Bruce_Bailey 22:09:34 Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell 22:09:55 zakim, bcaldwell to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments 22:09:55 I don't understand you, MichaelC 22:09:56 action: Ben to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments 22:09:56 Created ACTION-68 - Draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments [on Ben Caldwell - due 2010-01-21]. 22:10:02 action: bcaldwell to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments 22:10:02 Sorry, couldn't find user - bcaldwell 22:10:27 drop action 5 22:10:31 drop action 3 22:10:34 drop action 2 22:10:43 topic: WAI-ARIA comments 22:10:53 rrsagent, drop action 2 22:10:56 rrsagent, drop action 3 22:11:00 rrsagent, drop action 5 22:16:45 Resolution: accept all WAI-ARIA responses except 115 and 211 22:17:06 -Andrew_Kirkpatrick 22:17:28 Action: Loretta to write up additional responses to WAI-ARIA #115 and #211 22:17:28 Created ACTION-69 - Write up additional responses to WAI-ARIA #115 and #211 [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2010-01-21]. 22:18:49 +Andrew_Kirkpatrick 22:21:10 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/Group/track/actions/open 22:23:11 Note: Some Invited Experts do not have access to the Tracker software of the W3C 22:39:49 -Andrew_Kirkpatrick 22:40:23 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 22:40:25 -James_Nurthen 22:40:26 -Gregg_Vanderheiden 22:40:27 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 22:40:27 -David_MacDonald 22:40:28 -Michael_Cooper 22:40:30 -Bruce_Bailey 22:40:30 WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended 22:40:31 Attendees were +1.443.415.aaaa, David_MacDonald, +1.617.324.aabb, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Tim_Boland?, +1.617.584.aacc, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, +1.315.457.aadd, +1.703.761.aaee, 22:40:35 ... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Ben_Caldwell, +1.781.839.aaff, +1.443.415.aagg, Tim_Boland, +1.315.457.aahh, Bruce_Bailey, +1.443.415.aaii 22:46:22 jamesn has left #wai-wcag 22:47:56 chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid 22:48:15 regrets: Sofia_Celic 22:50:16 zakim, bye 22:50:16 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 22:50:29 rrsagent, bye 22:50:29 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 22:50:29 ACTION: cooper to create visual examples of G18... [1] 22:50:29 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-irc#T21-30-01 22:50:29 ACTION: Ben to draft a response to Wayne Dick's comments [4] 22:50:29 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-irc#T22-09-56 22:50:29 ACTION: Loretta to write up additional responses to WAI-ARIA #115 and #211 [6] 22:50:29 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-wai-wcag-irc#T22-17-28