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15:44:03 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
15:44:03 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
15:44:04 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
15:44:04 <trackbot> Date: 12 January 2010
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16:00:07 <dom> Regrets: Wilhelm
16:00:37 <hendry> hmm, just rings
16:00:42 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0009.html
16:00:46 <dom> Chair: Dom
16:01:21 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
16:01:23 <Zakim> +??P52
16:01:27 <hendry> hah, made it
16:01:38 <Zakim> +Dom
16:01:38 <Zakim> -Dom
16:01:38 <Zakim> +Dom
16:01:46 <Zakim> +Carmelo
16:01:48 <dom> zakim, ??P52 is Kai
16:01:50 <Zakim> +Kai; got it
16:02:03 <Zakim> +??P57
16:02:11 <dom> zakim, ??P57 is dmitr
16:02:11 <Zakim> +dmitr; got it
16:02:48 <dom> Topic: Charter extension
16:03:00 <dom> close ACTION-101
16:03:00 <trackbot> ACTION-101 Ask for WG extension to the power that be closed
16:03:20 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0008.html Charter extension
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16:03:56 <dom> Topic: WCTMB2
16:04:07 <dom> -> http://dev.w3.org/2008/mobile-test/v2/ WCTMB2
16:04:24 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0011.html New tests for WCTMB2 @font-face and canvas tests
16:04:58 <hendry> no, not yet
16:05:02 <dom> Dom: tests looked good to me, beyond the modifications I made to @font-face
16:05:19 <hendry> sure
16:05:23 <dom> ACTION: Kai to review new tests from wilhelm
16:05:23 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Kai
16:05:47 <hendry> :)
16:05:59 <dom> close ACTION-100
16:06:00 <trackbot> ACTION-100 Review wilhelm's new tests for WCTMB2 (once available) closed
16:06:14 <dom> ACTION-88?
16:06:14 <trackbot> ACTION-88 -- Kai Hendry to come up with additional proposals for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-10-20 -- OPEN
16:06:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/88
16:06:27 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0007.html Kai sesssionStorage's test
16:07:15 <dom> Kai: the new localSession test keeps a counter of how many times you run the test
16:07:40 <dom> ... sessionStorage also keeps a counter (per tab/session)
16:08:34 <dom> ... which needs to be lower than localStorage
16:08:47 <dom> s/localSession/localStorage/
16:10:14 <dom> dom: just fixed a bug on comparing the counters
16:11:39 <dom> ... would move the counter out of the results list, with an explit "you've run this test X times on this browser"
16:12:00 <dom> ACTION: Kai to update localStorage to move counter out of test results
16:12:00 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Kai
16:12:34 <dom> Dom: any other idea for tests?
16:12:43 <dom> Kai: I proposed something around screen sizes
16:13:07 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0010.html Proposal on screen size tests
16:14:12 <dom> Dom: not sure how well it fits on WCTMB2
16:14:35 <dom> Kai: what about to connecting the score calculation with the XHR request?
16:14:42 <dom> ... this way it would record the scores
16:15:18 <dom> ACTION: Dom to look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db
16:15:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-103 - Look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-01-19].
16:16:03 <dom> Kai: another idea: we should print the user agent string somewhere
16:16:06 <dom> ... for screenshots
16:16:40 <hendry> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/4259907961/ 
16:16:42 <dom> ACTION: Kai to add the user agent string in the detailed results
16:16:42 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Kai
16:17:36 <dom> close ACTION-88
16:17:36 <trackbot> ACTION-88 Come up with additional proposals for WCTMB2 closed
16:17:53 <dom> close ACTION-94
16:17:53 <trackbot> ACTION-94 Add remaining test cases to WCTMB2 closed
16:18:20 <dom> close ACTION-95
16:18:20 <trackbot> ACTION-95 Look into other test cases for WCTMB2 closed
16:18:52 <dom> Dom: sent comments on audio and video tests; might need additional modifications
16:19:38 <dom> ... Given the remaining actions and corrections needed, we'll need at least one more cycle before announcing the test
16:19:50 <dom> Topic: Test assertions methodology document
16:19:55 <dom> ACTION-102?
16:19:55 <trackbot> ACTION-102 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to request publication of TA extraction methodology as FPWG note -- due 2010-01-19 -- OPEN
16:19:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/102
16:20:35 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2010Jan/0005.html Marcos offer to help edits
16:21:00 <dom> Topic: Next call
16:21:22 <dom> Dom: I probably won't be on the call
16:22:11 <dom> ... hopefully Wilhelm will be able to chair
16:22:12 <dom> Topic: AOB
16:22:22 <dom> Kai: quickly, a problem we came across at work
16:22:53 <dom> ... Android devices (>1.6) fail the canvas test in WCTMB1
16:23:22 <dom> ... but Android actually supports canvas, but not the complicated aspects of the test we're doing
16:23:36 <dom> ... this actually misled us
16:23:40 <dom> s/Android/they/
16:23:57 <dom> ... we thought Android wouldn't support it for our demos
16:25:10 <dom> Dom: I think we took a specific decision of making the canvas test harder than it originally was
16:25:20 <dom> Kai: yeah, but maybe we've gone too far in that direction
16:25:43 <Zakim> -Carmelo
16:25:46 <Zakim> -Dom
16:25:47 <Zakim> -Kai
16:25:47 <Zakim> -dmitr
16:25:47 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
16:25:49 <Zakim> Attendees were Dom, Carmelo, Kai, dmitr
16:25:49 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:25:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-minutes.html dom
16:26:01 <dom> s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
16:26:04 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:26:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-minutes.html dom
16:30:42 <dom> RRSAgent, bye
16:30:42 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-actions.rdf :
16:30:42 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kai to review new tests from wilhelm [1]
16:30:42 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-irc#T16-05-23
16:30:42 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kai to update localStorage to move counter out of test results [2]
16:30:42 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-irc#T16-12-00
16:30:42 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Dom to look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db [3]
16:30:42 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-irc#T16-15-18
16:30:42 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kai to add the user agent string in the detailed results [4]
16:30:42 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/12-mwts-irc#T16-16-42
16:30:44 <dom> zakim, bye
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