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13:57:37 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #sparql 13:57:37 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/06/12-sparql-irc 13:57:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world 13:57:39 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #sparql 13:57:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277 13:57:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes 13:57:42 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference 13:57:42 <trackbot> Date: 12 June 2012 13:58:02 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-06-12 13:58:08 <AxelPolleres> chair: AxelPolleres 13:58:23 <AxelPolleres> Regrets: Birte, Lee, Sandro 13:58:35 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started 13:58:42 <Zakim> +??P1 13:58:46 <AndyS> zakim, ??P1 is me 13:58:46 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it 13:59:19 <Zakim> +pgearon 13:59:24 <Zakim> + +1.310.729.aaaa 13:59:29 <kasei> Zakim, aaaa is me 13:59:29 <Zakim> +kasei; got it 13:59:57 <Zakim> + +49.897.aabb 14:00:03 <Zakim> +??P9 14:00:09 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P9 is me 14:00:09 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it 14:00:19 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aabb is probably me 14:00:19 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres?; got it 14:00:23 <Zakim> + +33.4.92.38.aacc 14:00:42 <Olivier> Zakim, aacc is me 14:00:42 <Zakim> +Olivier; got it 14:00:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone? 14:00:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres?, SteveH, Olivier 14:01:12 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, AxelPolleres? is me 14:01:12 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it 14:01:33 <MattPerry> MattPerry has joined #sparql 14:02:11 <chimezie> chimezie has joined #sparql 14:02:41 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd 14:02:45 <chimezie> Zakim, what is the passcode? 14:02:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), chimezie 14:03:04 <MattPerry> zakim, aadd is me 14:03:04 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it 14:03:13 <AxelPolleres> Chime, could you scribe? 14:03:17 <Zakim> +Chimezie 14:03:21 <chimezie> sure 14:03:26 <bglimm> bglimm has joined #sparql 14:03:31 <AxelPolleres> scribe: chime 14:03:43 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me 14:03:43 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted 14:04:24 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin 14:04:38 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05 14:04:44 <cbuilara> cbuilara has joined #sparql 14:04:50 <chimezie> Zakim, who is on the phone? 14:04:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres, SteveH, Olivier, MattPerry, Chimezie (muted) 14:05:15 <AndyS> I was not there. 14:05:15 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05 14:05:25 <AndyS> (I'm under both there and not there!) 14:05:39 <AndyS> (NP) 14:06:04 <AxelPolleres> Next regular meeting: 2012-06-19 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST 14:06:10 <Olivier> regrets for next week 14:06:23 <chimezie> I have regrets as well 14:06:32 <AxelPolleres> regrets for next week, from me too 14:07:08 <AxelPolleres> andy, sandro would be next on the scribelist 14:07:23 <AndyS> Ok - (caveat slight RSI (shoulders)) 14:07:25 <Zakim> +??P30 14:07:28 <chimezie> Axel: RDF WG liason? 14:07:35 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P30 is me 14:07:36 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it 14:07:49 <chimezie> AndyS: nothing last week and didn't attend one before that 14:08:14 <Arthur> Arthur has joined #sparql 14:08:35 <chimezie> ... some discussion regarding JSON-LD , unclear where that stands (not related to SPARQL) 14:08:44 <Zakim> + +1.512.651.aaee 14:09:02 <chimezie> Axel: comments review 14:09:04 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments 14:09:35 <chimezie> Axel: important to address all open comments prior to going to next stage 14:09:39 <AndyS> q+ to ask about reorg the page 14:10:38 <chimezie> AndyS: should I clean up the page to make it more manageable. Consolidation section should have all open comments, everything below is historical 14:11:08 <chimezie> Axel: I see open comments below 14:11:17 <chimezie> AndyS: they should all be copied up 14:11:35 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Andy to move all open comments to a new wiki page 14:11:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-639 - Move all open comments to a new wiki page [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-06-19]. 14:12:15 <chimezie> Axel: I have a draft response to discuss 14:12:17 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KK-15 14:12:39 <Zakim> -Chimezie 14:13:05 <Zakim> +Chimezie 14:13:48 <chimezie> Axel: Anyone want to look over comment? 14:14:02 <AxelPolleres> kindly asking for approval per email of KK-15 response. 14:14:47 <chimezie> AndyS: I think it's ok 14:15:18 <SteveH> looks fine to me too 14:15:28 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to send response forKK-15 14:15:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-640 - Send response forKK-15 [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. 14:15:48 <chimezie> Axel: others? 14:16:15 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR 14:17:08 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: query 14:17:24 <chimezie> AndyS: Query document. PR page is up to date WRT outstanding issues to address 14:18:04 <AxelPolleres> getting ready by end of this month, if nothing else goes wrong. 14:18:45 <chimezie> AndyS: Waiting on Paul review of PP. May need review of changing sections 14:18:48 <chimezie> .. and of BIND 14:18:52 <AxelPolleres> BIND stuff will also need reviewing 14:19:07 <chimezie> Axel: I sent reply on INSCOPE def. 14:19:30 <chimezie> Axel: I'll take another look 14:19:45 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to look back on ACTION-618 and where we were to proceed with in-scope 14:19:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-641 - Look back on ACTION-618 and where we were to proceed with in-scope [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. 14:19:59 <AndyS> ACTION-639 Done 14:20:18 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: update 14:21:04 <chimezie> Axel: Kjetl comments is relevant here, regarding bnode correlation 14:21:11 <chimezie> ... wasn't able to go over test case proposed 14:21:22 <chimezie> ... Greg suggested revision of test case 14:21:54 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to check revision of test case proposed by greg 14:21:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-642 - Check revision of test case proposed by greg [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. 14:22:17 <chimezie> Axel: Editing by Paul? 14:22:24 <chimezie> Paul: no there is not. Mostly done now 14:22:46 <chimezie> Axel: Hopefully ready for review 14:23:03 <chimezie> Paul: I think we are ready for review 14:23:32 <AndyS> pgearon, axel - as I'm away so can't talk to paul, you two could link up after call. 14:23:56 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim? 14:23:56 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, AxelPolleres. 14:24:04 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim 14:24:04 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cbuilara 14:24:10 <cbuilara> yes, ok 14:24:20 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Carlos to review update 14:24:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-643 - Review update [on Carlos Buil Aranda - due 2012-06-19]. 14:24:24 <cbuilara> deadline? in a week? 14:24:49 <cbuilara> ok 14:24:57 <cbuilara> I will try 14:24:59 <Olivier> I can do it also 14:25:42 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: olivier to review update 14:25:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-644 - Review update [on Olivier Corby - due 2012-06-19]. 14:26:50 <chimezie> Greg: As a result of DBooth comment, I think there is a change to SD related to dereferences URL, will email group in next couple of day - not big issue, but might require slipping new LC documents 14:27:06 <chimezie> s/couple of day/couple of days 14:27:35 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me 14:27:35 <Zakim> Chimezie was not muted, chimezie 14:27:55 <Zakim> -SteveH 14:29:40 <AxelPolleres> MSO-1 is done 14:30:01 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to review GSP 14:30:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-645 - Review GSP [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. 14:30:09 <Zakim> +??P36 14:30:21 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P36 is me 14:30:21 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it 14:30:37 <chimezie> JL3-1 needs updating WRT removal of reference to REST 14:30:48 <chimezie> after those changes are reviewed 14:31:21 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: entailment 14:31:35 <Arthur> Zakim, +1.512.651.aaee is me 14:31:35 <Zakim> +Arthur; got it 14:31:51 <AxelPolleres> there might be still a comment that requires change... 14:32:13 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to clarify with Birte about open issues/changes necessaryu in entailment, if any 14:32:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-646 - Clarify with Birte about open issues/changes necessaryu in entailment, if any [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. 14:32:21 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me 14:32:21 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted 14:32:32 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: federated query 14:32:43 <cbuilara> cabn you hear me? 14:32:46 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone? 14:32:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres, Olivier, MattPerry, cbuilara, Arthur, Chimezie (muted), SteveH 14:32:52 <cbuilara> sorry, I'm having problems with my mic 14:33:02 <cbuilara> summary: I updated it 14:33:05 <cbuilara> the PR page 14:33:13 <cbuilara> only one action (520) about tests 14:33:17 <cbuilara> only one comment 14:33:25 <cbuilara> can you repeat pls? 14:33:39 <cbuilara> no need of review since no changes from LC 14:34:05 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: result formats 14:34:13 <chimezie> AndyS: (Result formats) - JSON and CSV/TSV are okay 14:34:16 <chimezie> ... no changes 14:34:29 <AxelPolleres> no changes for either JSON nor CSV/TSV since LC 14:35:28 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: overview 14:35:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim 14:35:54 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie (muted) 14:35:59 <chimezie> Axel: full review not neccessary, just reply to email 14:36:06 <chimezie> sure 14:36:17 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: chime to review overview 14:36:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-647 - Review overview [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-06-19]. 14:37:24 <AxelPolleres> topic: schedule 14:37:40 <chimezie> Axel: Our charter runs until end of June. 14:38:05 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/sparql-charter 14:38:23 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012AprJun/0229.html 14:38:28 <chimezie> ... Sandro sent email prior to call 14:38:42 <chimezie> Axel: Need to get reviews from other WGs 14:39:00 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to coordinate with Lee and Sandro on getting othe WG reviews. 14:39:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-648 - Coordinate with Lee and Sandro on getting othe WG reviews. [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. 14:39:33 <chimezie> ... we forgot this for some other documents. Sandro suggested to do this with next LC round 14:39:46 <chimezie> ... need this prior to PR/CR 14:40:02 <chimezie> Axel: So, we must extend the working group again 14:41:04 <AxelPolleres> what do people think about extending until end of the year latest? 14:41:15 <bglimm> Sorry for just jumping in (I have a parallel meeting and only partly watch IRC). There are no open comments/issues for Ent. Regimes and there have not been any changes since LC, so I am not sure it needs another review 14:41:33 <AxelPolleres> Andy: abent any severe issues, 6months more seem to be right. 14:41:37 <chimezie> I'm available, but just with a *little* reduction in bandwidth over next 6 months 14:42:05 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll: would you be willing to continue the WG until end of the year? 14:42:11 <AndyS> +1 14:42:14 <Arthur> +1 14:42:15 <kasei> +1 14:42:15 <bglimm> +1 14:42:16 <MattPerry> +1 14:42:27 <chimezie> +1 14:42:29 <Olivier> +1 14:42:36 <cbuilara> +1 14:42:47 <AxelPolleres> +0.5 (hope to finish the main parts definitly before october, will be very tight for me after that) 14:43:30 <AxelPolleres> looks like consensus that we could proceed until end of the year for the people present. 14:43:36 <chimezie> Axel: Will speak to Lee about this 14:43:53 <pgearon> +1 14:43:58 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to coordinate with Lee and sandro about extension until end of the year and exact schedule 14:43:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-649 - Coordinate with Lee and sandro about extension until end of the year and exact schedule [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19]. 14:44:09 <chimezie> Axel: all for today 14:44:34 <chimezie> .. clean up comments, start reviews. Hope we don't need entire half year even if we extend 14:45:28 <AxelPolleres> adjourned 14:45:45 <AxelPolleres> bye 14:45:45 <MattPerry> bye 14:45:45 <Zakim> -SteveH 14:45:46 <cbuilara> bye 14:45:47 <Zakim> -Chimezie 14:45:49 <Zakim> -Olivier 14:45:50 <Zakim> -AndyS 14:45:51 <Zakim> -cbuilara 14:45:52 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public 14:45:54 <Zakim> -Arthur 14:45:57 <Zakim> -MattPerry 14:46:07 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres 14:46:10 <Zakim> -kasei 15:00:07 <bglimm> bglimm has joined #sparql 15:35:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, pgearon, in SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM 15:35:02 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended 15:35:02 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, pgearon, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, +49.897.aabb, SteveH, +33.4.92.38.aacc, Olivier, AxelPolleres, +1.603.897.aadd, MattPerry, Chimezie, cbuilara, Arthur 16:08:09 <bglimm> bglimm has joined #sparql 16:38:46 <SteveH> SteveH has joined #sparql 16:44:54 <chimezie> chimezie has joined #sparql 16:57:53 <Zakim> Zakim has left #sparql # SPECIAL MARKER FOR CHATSYNC. 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