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15:01:47 <johnM> zakim, this is TERM
15:01:47 <Zakim> ok, johnM; that matches SW_HCLS(Term)10:00AM
15:03:39 <Zakim> + +1.707.321.aaaa
15:04:17 <johnM> +1.707.321.aaaa is Alan
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15:05:30 <Zakim> + +1.847.832.aabb
15:06:20 <johnM> zakim. +1.847.832.aabb is nalbarr
15:06:36 <johnM> zakim, +1.847.832.aabb is nalbarr
15:06:36 <Zakim> +nalbarr; got it
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15:09:13 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:09:13 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:09:15 <Zakim> +EricP.a
15:09:51 <nalbarr> nalbarr can scribe if you like
15:10:32 <mscottm> Zakim, mute johnM
15:10:32 <Zakim> John_Madden should now be muted
15:10:33 <nalbarr> jenny has icd10 in skos
15:11:04 <nalbarr> might be exposed in talis later?
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15:12:04 <ericP> Zakim, unmute johnM
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15:12:33 <mscottm> Zakim, unmute johnM
15:12:33 <Zakim> John_Madden was not muted, mscottm
15:12:35 <ericP> Zakim, mute johnM
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15:15:00 <ericP> q+ to ask if we want to support peter hendler
15:15:35 <nalbarr> jmadden: may propose some new projects next call
15:20:07 <ericP> Zakim, mute johnM
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15:20:12 <nalbarr> mscottm, ericp: coordination of thurs calls on hcls2# may be challenging with other conference calls
15:20:46 <ericP> Zakim, unmute johnM
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15:21:40 <ericP> monday 17:00Z (12:00 us east cost)
15:21:58 <nalbarr> mscottm: proposes mon move to 12 est / 11 cst
15:22:38 <nalbarr> start on 12/14
15:27:10 <mscottm> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Terminology/SNOMEDisa
15:27:46 <nalbarr> all: proposing letter of support for kp/peter hendler's work
15:29:06 <nalbarr> np.
15:29:52 <mscottm> from Peter Hendler: I'm applying for funding to officially move SNOMED to OWL at Kaiser. Most  of the money will be needed for the tooling.  I've proved it can be done  (very slowly and painfully) with Protege, but now we need a better tool  for handling this in production.
15:30:03 <mscottm> also: I'll keep you posted.  If this does get funded, then one side effect would  be that the IHTSDO toolbench would become an enterprise class tool for  large OWL ontologies.
15:30:23 <nalbarr> jmadden:  raises challenge of sct to owl/owl2 being more of modeling issue versus technical
15:33:36 <nalbarr> jmadden: proposes a focused use cases in peter's domain speciality for differential diagnosis
15:35:46 <nalbarr> ericp:  ... use cases should be focus on soundness of conclusions... versus technical complexity/scability/classification
15:37:09 <nalbarr> jmadden: ...more towards abox / instances side versus tbox only focus
15:38:37 <nalbarr> ... rdfs level is really the level of snomed ct modelinng
15:39:44 <nalbarr> ... rdfs/skos direction more usable...
15:40:08 <nalbarr> ericp:  peter did use negative assertions (above rdfs)
15:41:22 <nalbarr> jmadden:  wants to avoid heavyweight approach... to convert all snomed ct axioms, etc.
15:42:00 <nalbarr> alan:  leverage peter's pragmatic and practical approach for target use cases
15:43:09 <nalbarr> jmadden:  there is no "one" owl view of snomed ct; could be many perspectives
15:45:10 <nalbarr> ericp:  need to review proposal in order to draft letter of support
15:46:08 <nalbarr> jmadden: make sure efforts are shareable within w3c
15:46:32 <nalbarr> mscottm: there is a possibility of aligning with ihtsdo workbench direction?
15:48:29 <nalbarr> ericp:  provides w3c sounding board; technical guidance; offer to have a demonstrator
15:48:35 <mscottm> Zakim, mute me
15:48:35 <Zakim> sorry, mscottm, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:50:56 <nalbarr> jmadden:  need to clarify the scope and deliverable and relationship to tools
15:51:56 <nalbarr> mscottm: will engage peter on specifics
15:53:40 <nalbarr> jmadden/erip: draft letter together...
15:54:01 <ericP> eric@w3.org
15:55:49 <ericP> allen.hobbs@ap.org
15:56:13 <mscottm> http://dev.adaptivedisclosure.org/search/
15:58:00 <nalbarr> please draft minutes
15:58:12 <nalbarr> ericp... i need the incantatios
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15:58:23 <ericP> Zakim, please disconnect ericP
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15:58:25 <Zakim> Attendees were John_Madden, +1.707.321.aaaa, nalbarr, EricP.a
15:58:28 <mscottm> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:58:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-hcls2-minutes.html mscottm
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