15:50:45 RRSAgent has joined #forms 15:50:45 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-irc 15:50:47 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:50:49 Zakim, this will be HTML_Forms 15:50:49 ok, trackbot, I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM already started 15:50:50 Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference 15:50:50 Date: 02 December 2009 15:51:01 zakim, mute me 15:51:01 unl should now be muted 15:51:12 Chair: John 15:51:17 Scribe: Leigh 15:51:44 Regrets: None 15:51:58 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Dec/0000.html 15:53:31 can't make 30th december too 15:54:22 fine for me 15:55:12 RESOLVED: Our last teleconference for 2009 will be December 16th, and the first will be January 6, 2010. 16:02:43 ACTION: Leigh Klotz to examine http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0001.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0000.html for WG Note. 16:02:43 Created ACTION-583 - Klotz to examine http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0001.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0000.html for WG Note. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2009-12-09]. 16:04:11 15minutes testsuite? 16:04:35 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Nov/0022.html 16:06:11 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.1/Edition1/Chapt05/5.2/5.2.1/5.2.1.a.xhtml 16:07:04 http://code.google.com/p/ubiquity-xforms/issues/detail?id=424 16:07:31 zakim, unmute me 16:07:31 sorry, nick, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 16:09:35 zakim, who is on the phone? 16:09:35 On the phone I see wiecha, kenneth, Leigh_Klotz, ebruchez, [IPcaller], John_Boyer, unl (muted), Steven 16:09:53 zakim, [IP is Nick 16:09:53 +Nick; got it 16:14:08 http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#evt-revalidate 16:15:00 if you read this I think you shouldn't get a valid nor invalid event, because the nodes don't change after a reset, you get a new instance document 16:15:36 (that is what http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#evt-reset says° 16:16:31 http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#evt-revalidate If the validity of a node changes, then either the xforms-valid event must be marked for dispatch if 16:21:04 -kenneth 16:26:23 RESOLVED: Our last teleconference for 2009 will be December 16th, and the first will be January 6, 2010. 16:39:52 When you activate the Invalid Values trigger you must see an "XFORMS-INVALID" 16:39:52 output for all the data types except string, which will either have an output of xforms-valid 16:39:52 or no output. 16:40:08 (text from 5.1.a) 16:40:38 ACTION: Charlie Wiecha to re-write XForms 1.1 test 5.2.1 a, b, and c to use setvalue instead of reset to respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Nov/0022.html 16:40:38 Sorry, couldn't find user - Charlie 16:41:11 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.1/Edition1/Chapt11/11.9/11.9.8/11.9.8.a.xhtml 16:42:14 16:42:47 zakim, code? 16:42:47 the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick 16:43:24 +[IPcaller] 16:43:36 zakim, I am +[IPcaller] 16:43:36 sorry, nick, I do not see a party named '+[IPcaller]' 16:43:47 zakim, I am [IPcaller] 16:43:47 ok, nick, I now associate you with [IPcaller] 16:44:24 +ebruchez.a 16:45:00 -ebruchez 16:50:37 -Steven 16:51:12 zakim, dial steven-617 16:51:13 ok, Steven; the call is being made 16:51:13 +Steven 16:56:59 ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to fix character encoding of file http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.1/Edition1/Chapt11/11.9/11.9.8/11.9.8.a.xhtml to be UTF-8 and adjust content � appropriately and respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Nov/0030.html 16:56:59 Created ACTION-584 - Van den Bleeken to fix character encoding of file http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.1/Edition1/Chapt11/11.9/11.9.8/11.9.8.a.xhtml to be UTF-8 and adjust content � appropriately and respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Nov/0030.html [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2009-12-09]. 17:03:30 http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#ui-output 17:04:00 -unl 17:10:09 nick Looks correct; thank you for asking. 17:16:26 yup, something always drops the ball in encoding which is why i wanted to make sure. 17:17:20 ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to change label in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.1/Edition1/Chapt11/11.9/11.9.8/11.9.8.a.xhtml to say xforms-binding-exception. 17:17:20 Created ACTION-585 - Van den Bleeken to change label in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.1/Edition1/Chapt11/11.9/11.9.8/11.9.8.a.xhtml to say xforms-binding-exception. [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2009-12-09]. 17:18:11 ACTION: John Boyer to produce proposed erratum for miscellaneous XPath expressions so that all XPath expression except for MIP will get an xforms-binding-exception if something is wrong with the XPath. @at, @value, a few other places that aren't SNB or @nodeset. 17:18:11 Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John 17:18:11 Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer) 17:18:51 ACTION: Erik Bruchez to propose revampled XPath exceptions for XForms 1.2 as part of XPath 2.0 work. 17:18:51 Created ACTION-586 - Bruchez to propose revampled XPath exceptions for XForms 1.2 as part of XPath 2.0 work. [on Erik Bruchez - due 2009-12-09]. 17:19:51 -ebruchez.a 17:19:52 -Steven 17:19:52 -wiecha 17:19:53 -John_Boyer 17:19:55 Next December 9th Our last teleconference for 2009 will be December 16th, and the first will be January 6, 2010. 17:19:56 -[IPcaller] 17:20:12 rrsagent, make minutes 17:20:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-minutes.html jboyer 17:20:17 -Leigh_Klotz 17:20:25 zakim, who is here? 17:20:25 On the phone I see Nick 17:20:26 On IRC I see RRSAgent, jboyer, klotz, ebruchez, Zakim, kenneth, nick, Steven, trackbot 17:20:31 zakim, disconnect Nick 17:20:31 Nick is being disconnected 17:20:33 HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended 17:20:34 Attendees were wiecha, +45.33.22.aaaa, kenneth, Leigh_Klotz, +1.650.515.aabb, [IPcaller], ebruchez, John_Boyer, Steven, unl, Nick 17:20:40 rrsagent, make minutes 17:20:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-minutes.html jboyer 17:20:46 rrsagent, bye 17:20:46 I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-actions.rdf : 17:20:46 ACTION: Leigh Klotz to examine http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0001.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2009Nov/0000.html for WG Note. [1] 17:20:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-irc#T16-02-43 17:20:46 ACTION: Charlie Wiecha to re-write XForms 1.1 test 5.2.1 a, b, and c to use setvalue instead of reset to respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Nov/0022.html [2] 17:20:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-irc#T16-40-38 17:20:46 ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to fix character encoding of file http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.1/Edition1/Chapt11/11.9/11.9.8/11.9.8.a.xhtml to be UTF-8 and adjust content � appropriately and respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Nov/0030.html [3] 17:20:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-irc#T16-56-59 17:20:46 ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to change label in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.1/Edition1/Chapt11/11.9/11.9.8/11.9.8.a.xhtml to say xforms-binding-exception. [4] 17:20:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-irc#T17-17-20 17:20:46 ACTION: John Boyer to produce proposed erratum for miscellaneous XPath expressions so that all XPath expression except for MIP will get an xforms-binding-exception if something is wrong with the XPath. @at, @value, a few other places that aren't SNB or @nodeset. [5] 17:20:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-irc#T17-18-11 17:20:46 ACTION: Erik Bruchez to propose revampled XPath exceptions for XForms 1.2 as part of XPath 2.0 work. [6] 17:20:46 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/02-forms-irc#T17-18-51