20:51:08 RRSAgent has joined #au 20:51:08 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/11/23-au-irc 20:51:15 Zakim, this will be AUWG 20:51:15 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 51 minutes ago 20:51:21 Meeting: WAI AU 20:51:41 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009OctDec/0040.html 20:52:05 Chair: Jan Richards 20:52:19 Regrets: Jutta T., Ann M. 20:59:48 zakm, code? 20:59:53 zakim, code? 20:59:53 the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Jan 21:00:05 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 21:00:12 +[IPcaller] 21:00:26 zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan 21:00:26 +Jan; got it 21:00:52 +Greg_Pisocky 21:03:12 Greg has joined #au 21:04:29 + +1.561.582.aaaa 21:06:15 zakim, aaaa is really SueannN 21:06:15 +SueannN; got it 21:07:45 jeanne has joined #au 21:08:29 +Jeanne 21:10:05 Scribe: Jeanne 21:10:38 Topic: Organizing reviews 21:10:43 topic: organizing reviews 21:11:38 Cynthia Shelly will be doing the reviews for PF and we will get it "mid December". 21:11:51 SN: IBM is doing theirs. 21:12:33 GP: I'm encouraging 2 from Adobe (Matt and Andrew) to do reviews. 21:12:43 GP: What version should we be using? 21:13:00 Topic: Drawing issue for A.3.1.5 Keyboard 21:13:08 Use the editors draft keyboard issue may change and other minor edits, nothing material 21:13:12 JR: there are minor changes since WD, but they do not affect the document in any material way. 21:14:05 GP: Adobe raised an objection: was it written to apply that all conceivable actions that can be done with the mouse be done with the keyboard at low a priority. 21:14:20 ... and that everything had to be done with keyboard. 21:14:36 ... we like the new language that Jan wrote, and accept that revision. 21:15:32 JR: I will put it in the document marked for decision by the group in a couple weeks. 21:16:28 Action: JR to add Keyboard access to drafts makerd as New text requiring WG decision 21:16:28 Created ACTION-196 - Add Keyboard access to drafts makerd as New text requiring WG decision [on Jan Richards - due 2009-11-30]. 21:16:54 Topic: UAAG2 update 21:17:09 JS: Pysched about where UAAG2 is 21:17:19 JS: Some sections need work 21:17:24 JS: Most sections ready 21:17:37 JS: Think UAAG2 is 85-90% there 21:17:59 JS: At recent F2F we did a lot of work on Understanding UAAG 2.0 doc 21:18:14 JS: Feeling much more hopeful that LC is nearer than further 21:19:03 Topic: Reviews 21:26:36 +Tim_Boland 21:26:48 Sueann has joined #au 21:27:20 Action: JS to check W3C procedures to confirm procedures for linking directly into the WCAG2 document. 21:27:20 Created ACTION-197 - Check W3C procedures to confirm procedures for linking directly into the WCAG2 document. [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-11-30]. 21:27:42 present+ Tim 21:27:49 rrsagent, make minutes 21:27:49 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/23-au-minutes.html jeanne 21:28:12 rrsagent, make logs public 21:28:29 rrsagent, make minutes 21:28:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/23-au-minutes.html jeanne 21:28:51 present+ Sueann, Jan, Jeanne 21:29:43 Action: JR ok to add Related Resources for Success Criterion A.1.1.1...JS to check on procdure for specific linking 21:29:44 Created ACTION-198 - Ok to add Related Resources for Success Criterion A.1.1.1...JS to check on procdure for specific linking [on Jan Richards - due 2009-11-30]. 21:30:15 JR: Search new version of Implementing ATAG2.0 for "@@". A.1.1.1 21:30:50 ... Tim had suggested links to WCAG in the related resources that are more detailed. 21:32:02 ...Is this what you are thinking of? 21:32:20 TB: Yes, although it would be better to link directly into the document. 21:32:27 JR: Jeanne is looking into that. 21:32:42 Action: JR ok to add Related Resources for Success Criterion A.2.1.1 21:32:42 Created ACTION-199 - Ok to add Related Resources for Success Criterion A.2.1.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2009-11-30]. 21:34:05 Action TB: Make sure JR's Related Resources WCAG section references are OK. 21:34:05 Sorry, couldn't find user - TB 21:34:50 Action: TB to Make sure JR's Related Resources WCAG section references are OK. 21:35:27 Action: TB to Make sure JR's Related Resources WCAG section references are OK. 21:35:27 Sorry, couldn't find user - TB 21:36:16 tion: FB to Make sure JR's Related Resources WCAG section references are OK. 21:36:22 Action: JR ok to change example wording under B.1.2.1 21:36:22 Created ACTION-200 - Ok to change example wording under B.1.2.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2009-11-30]. 21:36:47 Action: TB to Make sure JR's Related Resources WCAG section references are OK. 21:36:47 Sorry, couldn't find user - TB 21:37:03 Action: FB to Make sure JR's Related Resources WCAG section references are OK. 21:37:03 Created ACTION-201 - Make sure JR's Related Resources WCAG section references are OK. [on Frederick Boland - due 2009-11-30]. 21:37:38 rrsagent, make minutes 21:37:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/23-au-minutes.html jeanne 21:39:32 Action: JR ok to add new example wording under B.1.2.2 21:39:32 Created ACTION-202 - Ok to add new example wording under B.1.2.2 [on Jan Richards - due 2009-11-30]. 21:41:46 Action: JR ok to add new example wording under B.1.3.1 21:41:46 Created ACTION-203 - Ok to add new example wording under B.1.3.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2009-11-30]. 21:43:22 Action: JR ok to add Related Resources for Success Criterion B.2.4.1 21:43:22 Created ACTION-204 - Ok to add Related Resources for Success Criterion B.2.4.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2009-11-30]. 21:45:08 JR: If anyone knows anyone who is using ARIA tools to make ARIA easier? It would be good to use it as an example. 21:45:19 TB: Have you talked to PF about it? 21:45:41 JR: Not about this specifically, but I will follow up in my conversations with PF. 21:46:41 zakim, who is here? 21:46:42 On the phone I see Jan, Greg_Pisocky, SueannN, Jeanne, Tim_Boland 21:46:43 On IRC I see Sueann, jeanne, Greg, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, trackbot 21:48:35 JR: If we get more comments, we may go to 2-hour calls. 21:49:05 -Greg_Pisocky 21:49:07 -SueannN 21:49:09 -Jan 21:49:20 rrsagent, make minutes 21:49:20 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/23-au-minutes.html jeanne 21:49:27 zakim, bye 21:49:27 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Jan, Greg_Pisocky, +1.561.582.aaaa, SueannN, Jeanne, Tim_Boland 21:49:27 Zakim has left #au