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20:31:55 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WSRA
20:31:55 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM already started
20:31:56 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
20:31:56 <trackbot> Date: 17 November 2009
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20:33:20 <dug> zakim, who is talking?
20:33:31 <Zakim> dug, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: asoldano (5%), Bob_Freund (20%), [Microsoft] (29%), +3531498aabb (18%)
20:33:42 <dug> who is 353?
20:33:46 <Zakim> +Yves
20:34:16 <asoldano> I've muted my line
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20:34:42 <dug> zakim, mute 353
20:34:43 <Zakim> sorry, dug, I do not know which phone connection belongs to 353
20:35:24 <dug> I blame martin  :-)
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20:36:46 <Zakim> +MartinC
20:36:51 <Bob> scribenick: Vikas
20:37:04 <dug> woo hoo - scribe volunteers!  what a concept!
20:37:24 <dug> q+
20:37:27 <Bob> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Nov/0057.html
20:38:00 <Bob> ack dug
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20:38:52 <Bob> ack dug
20:41:43 <Vikas> Dug: Request to defer 6463.
20:42:54 <Vikas> AGENDA: Accepted within the working group
20:43:19 <Vikas> RESOLUTION: The minutes from 2009-11-05/06 meeting has been approved without objection.
20:44:00 <Vikas> TOPIC: Upcoming meetings.
20:44:36 <Vikas> Bob: Meeting of 11/24 and 12/22 is cancelled without objection
20:45:08 <Vikas> Bob: Meeting of 12/29 is also cancelled without objection.
20:46:11 <Vikas> Topic: New Issue Moratorium
20:47:23 <Vikas> Bob: Calrify if an issue shows up after 11/133, will look at it after LC.
20:47:47 <Vikas> s/133/13
20:48:01 <Vikas> Topic: New Issues
20:48:16 <Vikas> Issue-8273
20:48:25 <dug> q+
20:49:16 <Vikas> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8273
20:50:17 <dug> what about just pointing to:  http://www.ws-i.org/Profiles/BasicSecurity/SecurityChallenges-1.0-errata-2006-08-14.html
20:50:18 <Vikas> Bob: Any objection to make it LC issue?
20:50:34 <Zakim> +??P0
20:51:10 <DaveS> Dave S Joins the phone call.
20:51:15 <dug> q-
20:51:18 <Bob> ack dug
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20:52:15 <Vikas> Dug/Gil: agrees to make it LC issue.
20:53:28 <Vikas> Bob: 8273 is placed in LC issue.
20:53:37 <Vikas> Issue : http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8280
20:53:38 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-2 - Http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8280 ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/tracker/issues/2/edit .
20:53:51 <dug> s/MUST understand/MUST support/
20:54:34 <asoldano> someone need to rollack ^
20:54:42 <asoldano> *rollback
20:54:48 <Vikas> RESOLUTION: 8280 resolved as proposed
20:55:07 <Vikas> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8284
20:56:13 <Vikas> Bob: Any objection to make 8284 as possibly substantive  issue.
20:57:18 <Vikas> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8181
20:58:02 <Vikas> Bob: Any objection to accept  8181 as new issue
20:59:10 <Vikas> Asir: Asking for more details before accepting it
21:01:36 <Tom_Rutt> q+
21:01:43 <Bob> ack tom
21:02:49 <asir> Yeah, but what if members don't understand the issue
21:03:02 <Vikas> Tom: The confusion highlighted in the issue need to be clarified...and looks a valid issue.
21:04:20 <Vikas> Bob: 8181 accepted and is placed in current issue category
21:04:33 <Vikas> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8182
21:04:40 <asir> Recommend that issue openers provide justification rather than creating placeholders
21:06:05 <Vikas> Bob: 8182 accepted and is placed in current issue category
21:07:06 <Vikas> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8185
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21:08:21 <Vikas> Bob: 8185 accepted as LC issue without objection
21:08:31 <Vikas> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8192
21:10:36 <Vikas> Bob: 8192 accepted as current issue without objection
21:11:46 <Vikas> Ram: 8191 is missing from the list
21:12:21 <Vikas> Bob: 8191 is accepted without objection.
21:12:35 <Vikas> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8193
21:13:01 <Vikas> Bob: 8193 accepted as LC issue without objection
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21:15:21 <Vikas> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8194 
21:15:26 <asir2> q+
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21:15:39 <Bob> ack asir
21:16:02 <Vikas1> Bob, please assign Vikas1 as scribe
21:16:19 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8195
21:16:29 <Yves> scribenick Vikas1
21:16:31 <Bob> scribenick: Vikas1
21:17:47 <Vikas1> Asir: Asking for more substantive description on the issue.
21:18:01 <asir2> XML Schema, XQuery and XSLT uses XPath
21:18:07 <asir2> they have not bumped into these issues
21:18:57 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8231
21:19:27 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8257
21:19:54 <Vikas1> Bob: 8257 accepted as LC issue
21:20:04 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8258
21:20:35 <Vikas1> Bob: 8258 accepted as LC issue
21:20:44 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8164
21:21:44 <Vikas1> Dug: Editorial which requires some discussion, sugegst it as a current issue.
21:22:04 <Vikas1> Bob: 8164 accepted as current issue
21:22:13 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8165
21:23:29 <Vikas1> Bob: 8165 accepted as LC issue
21:23:32 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8176
21:24:42 <Vikas1> Dug: suggest pre-LC
21:25:12 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8271
21:26:16 <Vikas1> Gil: Suggest it as a current issue, which requires some discusison.
21:26:37 <Vikas1> Wu: Suggest it as LC 
21:28:55 <Wu> q+
21:29:28 <Bob> ack wu
21:30:46 <asir2> should we document that this issue is limited to fixing RFC terms?
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21:31:05 <dug> we can't make this determination until we see the proposal
21:31:12 <dug> q+
21:31:15 <Zakim> + +984999aacc
21:31:38 <Bob> ack dug
21:31:41 <Wu> q+
21:32:34 <dug> I wasn't done
21:32:43 <asir2> What I am hearing is that the issue description is incomplete and is a place holder for future issues
21:33:30 <asir2> 2119 scan sounds good
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21:33:41 <asir2> Did Bob invent the phrase '2119 scan'?
21:35:01 <Vikas1> Bob: 8271 accepted as current issue
21:35:08 <Wu> q+
21:36:07 <Vikas1> scribenick: Vikas1
21:37:17 <Bob> ack wu
21:37:33 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8274
21:37:52 <Vikas1> Bob: Closed with no action
21:38:17 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8275
21:38:24 <Vikas1> Gil: LC
21:39:28 <Vikas1> Dug: substantive
21:39:53 <Vikas1> Bob: 8275 accepted as current issue
21:40:53 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8276
21:41:48 <Vikas1> RESOLUTION: 8276 resolved with current proposal
21:42:02 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8277
21:42:54 <Vikas1> RESOLUTION: 8277 resolved with current proposal
21:44:06 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8281
21:45:20 <Vikas1> Bob: 8281 accepted as current issue
21:47:29 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8283
21:48:03 <dug> q+
21:49:05 <Bob> ack dug
21:49:59 <Vikas1> Bob: 8283 accepted as current issue
21:50:31 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8285
21:51:41 <li> noise
21:52:07 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8286
21:54:13 <Vikas1> Bob: 8286 accepted as current issue
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21:58:40 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8287
21:59:11 <Vikas1> Bob: accepted as LC issue
21:59:26 <MartinC> pumpkin time
22:00:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/17-ws-ra-minutes.html Yves
22:00:06 <asoldano> bye
22:00:08 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
22:00:09 <Zakim> -Wu_Chou
22:00:09 <Zakim> -MartinC
22:00:10 <Zakim> -??P0
22:00:10 <Zakim> -Bob_Freund
22:00:11 <Zakim> -[IBM]
22:00:12 <Zakim> -asoldano
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22:00:16 <Zakim> -Yves
22:00:16 <Vikas1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8288
22:00:17 <MartinC> night
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22:05:20 <Bob> rrsagent, generate minutes
22:05:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/17-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
22:05:49 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Vikas, in WS_WSRA()3:30PM
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22:05:54 <Zakim> Attendees were [IBM], +91.98.49.99.aaaa, asoldano, Bob_Freund, Tom_Rutt, Vikas, [Microsoft], +3531498aabb, Wu_Chou, Yves, gpilz, MartinC, Ashok_Malhotra, +984999aacc
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