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12:00:44 <wbailer> Zakim, this will be MAWG
12:00:44 <Zakim> ok, wbailer, I see IA_MAWG()8:00AM already started
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12:01:09 <pchampin> zakim, who is on the phone?
12:01:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see +82.10.58.00.aaaa, +0329331aabb, +047269aacc
12:01:21 <pchampin> zakim, aacc is me
12:01:21 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.19.aadd
12:01:22 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it
12:01:32 <Zakim> + +43.316.876.aaee
12:01:35 <pchampin> zakim, mute me
12:01:35 <Zakim> pchampin should now be muted
12:01:40 <wbailer> Zakim, aaee is wbailer
12:01:40 <Zakim> +wbailer; got it
12:01:49 <wonsuk> Present+ wonsuk
12:02:14 <joakim> zakim, +46.1.07 is me
12:02:14 <Zakim> +joakim; got it
12:02:25 <wonsuk> Zakim, +82.10.58.00.aaaa is wonsuk
12:02:25 <Zakim> +wonsuk; got it
12:03:18 <joakim> zakim, this is mawg
12:03:18 <Zakim> joakim, this was already IA_MAWG()8:00AM
12:03:19 <Zakim> ok, joakim; that matches IA_MAWG()8:00AM
12:05:41 <joakim> zakim, pick victim
12:05:41 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick victim', joakim
12:05:43 <joakim> zakim, pick victim
12:05:43 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick victim', joakim
12:06:01 <joakim> zakim, pick a victim
12:06:01 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose +0329331aabb
12:06:44 <joakim> zakim, pick a victim
12:06:44 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose wbailer
12:07:31 <joakim> http://www.w3.org/2009/10/13-mediaann-minutes.html
12:07:32 <wbailer> aganda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Oct/0070.html
12:07:55 <wbailer> minutes of previous meeting approved
12:08:02 <joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
12:08:03 <wbailer> topic: oepn actions
12:08:11 <wbailer> s/oepn/open/
12:08:40 <wbailer> ongoing action 47
12:09:00 <wbailer> action for felix and david left open as they are not present
12:09:00 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - for
12:09:17 <wbailer> no answer concerning action 154
12:09:53 <wbailer> chris: action 155 to be left open until f2f
12:10:12 <wbailer> tobias not here, 156 open
12:10:56 <wbailer> chris sent mail regarding action 157, to be discussed at f2f
12:11:07 <wbailer> regrets+ florian
12:11:17 <wbailer> regrets+ tobias
12:11:56 <wbailer> chris: no formal agreement in web idl wg on representation of dates
12:12:06 <wbailer> ... we need to come up with a solution
12:12:08 <pchampin> q+
12:12:27 <wbailer> wiki page for open api issues: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/API_Open_Issues
12:12:45 <wbailer> close action-161
12:12:46 <trackbot> ACTION-161 And joakim to collect in a wiki page all issues to be discussed at the F2F closed
12:12:58 <pchampin> ack me
12:14:15 <wbailer> pierre-antoine: dates in web idl: we should try to have a simple solution that can be compatible with web idl
12:14:58 <wbailer> ... for persons we should support string and uri
12:15:22 <wbailer> ... similar solution for date: ad hoc value and compliant with future web idl format
12:16:17 <wbailer> action: pierre-antoine to add issues to API open issues wiki page
12:16:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-166 - Add issues to API open issues wiki page [on Pierre-Antoine Champin - due 2009-10-27].
12:17:30 <wbailer> joakim contacted philippe le hegaret for publishing the TR
12:17:55 <wbailer> ... doc is tr section, uri needs to be made public
12:18:05 <pchampin> what is the URI of the document in TR?
12:18:08 <wbailer> joakim: did editors check the changes done?
12:18:57 <wbailer> wonsuk: changes are ok
12:18:58 <joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html
12:19:47 <wbailer> joakim will take care that the document gets published
12:20:08 <joakim> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-mediaont-api-1.0-20091020/
12:21:08 <wbailer> we keep action 162 open until doc is published
12:21:48 <wbailer> no progress on action 164
12:22:09 <wbailer> discussion on action 165 ongoing
12:22:35 <wonsuk> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC09/registrants#media
12:23:48 <pchampin> just so you know: I don't have access to this page :-(
12:24:09 <pchampin> (I don't intend to register, but other IE may want to... I guess this is because I am not a full member)
12:25:29 <wbailer> scribe: wbailer
12:26:33 <wbailer> action: joakim to ask team contact about access to pages for invited experts (e.g. pierre-antoine cannot access the list of tpac attendees)
12:26:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-167 - Ask team contact about access to pages for invited experts (e.g. pierre-antoine cannot access the list of tpac attendees) [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-10-27].
12:26:44 <wbailer> topic: wd of api document
12:27:09 <wbailer> joakim: no further issues
12:27:22 <wbailer> topic: question from webapp and dap
12:28:03 <wbailer> joakim: we could get useful input on how api could be deployed and used in application
12:28:14 <wbailer> topic: agenda for f2f meeting
12:28:35 <wbailer> joakim: proposed topics in today's call agenda
12:29:41 <wbailer> wonsuk: we should plan 2 hours for each of the topics
12:29:56 <wbailer> ... we have to improve the mapping tables
12:30:27 <wbailer> ... no improvements yet for many formats, we need to push editors responsible for the formats
12:31:11 <wbailer> ... important topic is synchronising ontology and API documents
12:31:21 <wbailer> ... we have revised list of properties
12:32:05 <wbailer> ... API document is based on newer list of properties than ontology document, also properties are now grouped
12:32:27 <joakim> API is based on the old Core Properties?
12:32:48 <joakim> Ontology  is based on the old Core Properties
12:33:44 <wbailer> werner: we have additional properties considered: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Candidate_Additional_Elements
12:34:06 <wbailer> ... some from our previous discussions, some from timed text wg
12:35:23 <wbailer> wonsuk: we need to discuss property mapping table
12:35:54 <wbailer> ... there are 3 levels: semantic, syntactic, mapping function
12:36:11 <wbailer> .. 1st wd considers mainly semantic, we need to discuss these issues
12:36:38 <wbailer> joakim: evolve mapping by defining mapping rules (e.g. data types, units, ...)
12:36:52 <wbailer> ... we must start discussion on test suite
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12:37:55 <wbailer> pierre-antoine: one part of test suite could be covered by metadata files in different in-scope formats and expected outputs of mawg getter functions
12:39:16 <pchampin> bye :)
12:39:17 <wbailer> ajourned, next meeting is f2f
12:39:26 <Zakim> - +0329331aabb
12:39:27 <joakim> bye
12:39:28 <wbailer> Zakim, list attendees
12:39:28 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +0329331aabb, +047269aacc, +46.1.07.19.aadd, pchampin, +43.316.876.aaee, wbailer, joakim, wonsuk
12:39:31 <Zakim> -pchampin
12:39:36 <Zakim> -joakim
12:39:41 <wbailer> RRSAgent, make logs public 
12:39:49 <wbailer> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
12:39:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
12:39:55 <joakim> Hi felix!
12:40:21 <Zakim> -wbailer
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12:40:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
12:40:56 <fsasaki> meeting: MAWG
12:41:03 <wbailer> chair: joakim
12:41:08 <fsasaki> chair: joakim
12:41:12 <fsasaki> regrets+ felix
12:41:28 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Oct/0070.html
12:41:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
13:05:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, wonsuk, in IA_MAWG()8:00AM
13:05:03 <Zakim> IA_MAWG()8:00AM has ended
13:05:05 <Zakim> Attendees were +0329331aabb, +047269aacc, +46.1.07.19.aadd, pchampin, +43.316.876.aaee, wbailer, joakim, wonsuk
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