IRC log of RDB2RDF on 2009-10-15

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14:47:24 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc
14:47:26 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs world
14:47:26 [Zakim]
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14:47:28 [trackbot]
Zakim, this will be 7322733
14:47:28 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
14:47:29 [trackbot]
Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
14:47:29 [trackbot]
Date: 15 October 2009
14:52:09 [jsequeda]
Good morning/afternoon to everybody
14:52:20 [mhausenblas]
hi there jsequeda
14:53:39 [Ahmed]
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14:54:10 [hhalpin]
Zakim, agenda+ "Introduction"
14:54:10 [Zakim]
agendum 1 added
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14:54:15 [mhausenblas]
very well, now we have Ahmed also on board - all set, ready to start
14:54:20 [hhalpin]
Zakim, agenda+ "Future Meetings"
14:54:20 [Zakim]
agendum 2 added
14:54:26 [mhausenblas]
hhalpin: we do have an agenda
14:54:34 [hhalpin]
Zakim, agenda+ "WG Tools"
14:54:34 [Zakim]
agendum 3 added
14:54:42 [mhausenblas]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2009Oct/0002.html
14:54:49 [lma]
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14:54:52 [hhalpin]
That's what I'm adding in.
14:55:06 [mhausenblas]
are you gonna scribe? then fine with me :)
14:55:15 [Zakim]
SW_RDB2RDF()11:00AM has now started
14:55:22 [Zakim]
+ +1.512.484.aaaa
14:55:26 [hhalpin]
Zakim, agenda+ "Goals and Objectives"
14:55:26 [Zakim]
agendum 4 added
14:55:34 [hhalpin]
Zakim, agenda+ "AOB"
14:55:34 [Zakim]
agendum 5 added
14:55:53 [Zakim]
+ +3539149aabb
14:55:53 [hhalpin]
mhausenblas: then you can say "Zakim, next agendum" and the minutes get formatted nicely, etc."
14:56:14 [Zakim]
- +3539149aabb
14:56:47 [Zakim]
+Joseph_Scheuhammer
14:56:50 [Zakim]
+ +3539149aacc
14:57:11 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who'e on the call?
14:57:11 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, mhausenblas.
14:57:17 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who's on the call?
14:57:17 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.512.484.aaaa, Joseph_Scheuhammer, +3539149aacc
14:57:28 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aacc is me
14:57:28 [Zakim]
+mhausenblas; got it
14:58:01 [jsequeda]
Zakim, aaaa is me
14:58:02 [Zakim]
+jsequeda; got it
14:58:07 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who is here?
14:58:07 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas
14:58:08 [Zakim]
On IRC I see lma, whalb, Ahmed, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
14:58:09 [Zakim]
+??P36
14:58:29 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who is here?
14:58:29 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, ??P36
14:58:31 [Zakim]
On IRC I see lma, whalb, Ahmed, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
14:58:38 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, ??P36 is Ahmed
14:58:38 [Zakim]
+Ahmed; got it
14:59:23 [Zakim]
+ +39.046.188.aadd
14:59:41 [Zakim]
+ +1.603.897.aaee
15:00:45 [Zakim]
+ +043316876aaff
15:01:08 [angela]
angela has joined #rdb2rdf
15:01:13 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aaff is whalb
15:01:13 [Zakim]
+whalb; got it
15:01:26 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aadd is angela
15:01:26 [Zakim]
+angela; got it
15:01:27 [Zakim]
+ +1.781.907.aagg
15:01:43 [cygri]
cygri has joined #rdb2rdf
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+ +1.603.897.aahh
15:01:44 [Zakim]
+ +7.791.000.0.aaii
15:02:27 [cygri]
zakim, cygri is Richard
15:02:27 [Zakim]
sorry, cygri, I do not recognize a party named 'cygri'
15:03:58 [mhausenblas]
alternatively you can use http://www.mibbit.com/
15:04:10 [Souri]
Souri has joined #rdb2rdf
15:06:15 [hhalpin]
Zakim, call +49017635785890
15:06:15 [Zakim]
I am sorry, hhalpin; I do not know a number for +49017635785890
15:06:19 [metatomix]
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15:06:29 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who is here?
15:06:29 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, +1.603.897.aaee, whalb, +1.781.907.aagg, +7.791.000.0.aaii, +1.603.897.aahh
15:06:32 [Zakim]
On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:06:34 [iv_an_ru]
mhausenblas, I've failed to connect via phone :|
15:06:52 [iv_an_ru]
Is Orri on phone?
15:07:03 [metatomix]
metatomix is here.
15:08:25 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aagg is metatomix
15:08:25 [Zakim]
+metatomix; got it
15:09:16 [hhalpin]
Zakim, who's on the phone?
15:09:16 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, +1.603.897.aaee, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii, +1.603.897.aahh
15:10:15 [Zakim]
- +1.603.897.aahh
15:10:23 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who is here?
15:10:23 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, +1.603.897.aaee, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii
15:10:25 [Zakim]
On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:10:35 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aaee is Seema
15:10:36 [Zakim]
+Seema; got it
15:10:39 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who is here?
15:10:52 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, Seema, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii
15:11:00 [Zakim]
On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:11:21 [Zakim]
+ +1.603.897.aajj
15:11:47 [Zakim]
+??P28
15:11:56 [Souri]
I just joined as +1.603.897.aajj
15:11:59 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aajj is Souri
15:11:59 [Zakim]
+Souri; got it
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test has joined #rdb2rdf
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test has left #rdb2rdf
15:13:30 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who is here?
15:13:30 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, Seema, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii, ??P28, Souri
15:13:32 [Zakim]
On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:13:36 [hhalpin]
Zakim, call out HH-Mobile-de
15:13:41 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'call out HH-Mobile-de', hhalpin
15:13:47 [hhalpin]
Zakim, call HH-Mobile-de
15:13:47 [Zakim]
ok, hhalpin; the call is being made
15:13:49 [Zakim]
+HH
15:14:01 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, ?PP28 is hhalpin
15:14:01 [Zakim]
sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named '?PP28'
15:14:07 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, ?P28 is hhalpin
15:14:07 [Zakim]
sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named '?P28'
15:14:15 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, ??P28 is hhalpin
15:14:15 [Zakim]
+hhalpin; got it
15:14:25 [iv_an_ru]
Zakim, call +73833064586
15:14:25 [Zakim]
I am sorry, iv_an_ru; I do not know a number for +73833064586
15:14:36 [Zakim]
-HH
15:14:38 [iv_an_ru]
Zakim, call 73833064586
15:14:38 [Zakim]
I am sorry, iv_an_ru; I do not know a number for 73833064586
15:14:45 [Zakim]
+ +1.585.919.aakk
15:15:07 [hhalpin]
Zakim, call HH-Mobile-de
15:15:07 [Zakim]
ok, hhalpin; the call is being made
15:15:09 [Zakim]
+HH
15:15:54 [Zakim]
-HH
15:16:13 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who's here?
15:16:14 [Zakim]
On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:16:17 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, Seema, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii, hhalpin, Souri, +1.585.919.aakk
15:16:22 [soeren]
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marcelo has joined #RDB2RDF
15:16:38 [hhalpin]
:)
15:16:46 [hhalpin]
Zakim, next agendum
15:16:46 [Zakim]
agendum 1. ""Introduction"" taken up [from hhalpin]
15:17:57 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who is making noise?
15:18:08 [Zakim]
mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.585.919.aakk (15%), mhausenblas (72%), +7.791.000.0.aaii (34%)
15:18:46 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, marcelo is aaii
15:18:46 [Zakim]
sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'marcelo'
15:18:59 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aaii is marcelo
15:18:59 [Zakim]
+marcelo; got it
15:19:41 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, next agendum
15:19:41 [Zakim]
agendum 2. ""Future Meetings"" taken up [from hhalpin]
15:20:10 [mhausenblas]
scribenick: mhausenblas
15:21:07 [Ahmed]
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Ahmed: introduction and roll call
15:22:38 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, take up agendum 1
15:22:38 [Zakim]
agendum 1. ""Introduction"" taken up [from hhalpin]
15:22:48 [mhausenblas]
Introduction round
15:23:20 [mhausenblas]
soeren: linked data background, Triplify, one of the DBpedia founders
15:24:03 [mhausenblas]
cygri: DERI, main developer of D2RQ, interested in linked data, information integration
15:25:05 [Souri]
Could you show the order please?
15:25:12 [mhausenblas]
order of what? :)
15:26:25 [mhausenblas]
Souri and Seema: we are interested here RDB2RDF here at Oracle as we have a lot of relational data as you can guess
15:26:43 [mhausenblas]
s/here RDB2RDF/in RDB2RDF
15:27:26 [hhalpin]
hhalpin has joined #rdb2rdf
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Ahmed has joined #RDB2RDF
15:28:25 [mhausenblas]
Orri: from OpenLink, long time doing DB federation, etc., main contributor to linked data community
15:28:33 [Zakim]
+ +44.131.208.aall
15:28:47 [hhalpin]
Zakim, aall is hhalpin
15:28:47 [Zakim]
+hhalpin; got it
15:29:17 [mhausenblas]
Chair: Ahmed
15:29:23 [mhausenblas]
rrsagent, draft minutes
15:29:23 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:29:53 [hhalpin]
scribe: hhalpin
15:30:02 [hhalpin]
Orri is presenting next week
15:30:08 [hhalpin]
From OpenLink
15:30:12 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: from HP
15:30:20 [hhalpin]
... interests in integration
15:30:27 [hhalpin]
... works in RDF
15:30:35 [hhalpin]
Angelo: new to this group
15:30:43 [hhalpin]
... postdoc at OKKAM project
15:31:06 [hhalpin]
... co-ordinating all the work for use-cases, interest in entity identifiers for linked data
15:31:16 [hhalpin]
... automatically extraxting entities from relational data
15:31:22 [hhalpin]
... automatically identify these entities.
15:31:34 [hhalpin]
... background in multimedia IR
15:31:43 [hhalpin]
Howard: from Metamotix
15:31:51 [hhalpin]
... been in semantic technology world for 8-9 years
15:32:01 [hhalpin]
... developed middleware integration platform.
15:32:39 [hhalpin]
... integrating structured and semi-structured data
15:32:52 [hhalpin]
Howard is presenting in early november.
15:33:08 [hhalpin]
Wolfgang: Working in Austria
15:33:19 [hhalpin]
... has but Eurostat as Linked Data
15:33:24 [hhalpin]
... did work in XG
15:34:31 [hhalpin]
Harry: W3C Fellow from Uni. of Edinburgh
15:34:42 [hhalpin]
... will be helping with contacts
15:34:49 [hhalpin]
... co-chairing with Ahmed.
15:34:56 [hhalpin]
... participated in XG
15:34:59 [mhausenblas]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2009Oct/0009.html
15:35:49 [hhalpin]
Nunes: Working in DERI
15:36:02 [hhalpin]
... hetereogenous sources, working on XSPARQL
15:36:11 [hhalpin]
... extending XQuery.
15:36:16 [mhausenblas]
s/Nunes/Nuno
15:36:36 [hhalpin]
Ashok is on vacation.
15:36:44 [hhalpin]
Ivan: dialing in...
15:37:16 [hhalpin]
Juan: a Uni. Ph.D. student at University of Austin
15:37:20 [hhalpin]
... was part of XG
15:37:30 [hhalpin]
... creating Ultrawrap, RDB2RDF system
15:37:40 [hhalpin]
... takes advantage of existing infrastructure
15:37:46 [hhalpin]
... want to learn mappings
15:38:01 [hhalpin]
... uses data-mining, linked data for bioinformatics by end of year
15:38:10 [hhalpin]
Michael: Informal meeting at ISWC
15:38:30 [hhalpin]
... First face-to-face officially will be later
15:38:36 [hhalpin]
Juan: I'll be at ISWC.
15:38:47 [hhalpin]
Seema: From Oracle
15:38:59 [hhalpin]
... located in new hampshire
15:39:04 [hhalpin]
... working in semantic group
15:39:29 [hhalpin]
Marcelo:
15:39:56 [hhalpin]
Marcelo: Marcelo Arenas, from catholic university of chile
15:40:01 [hhalpin]
... most in database theory
15:40:08 [hhalpin]
... we have a group that works in RDF
15:40:23 [hhalpin]
... have done semantics for SPARQL, adding navigation, dealing with RDFS and OWL
15:40:32 [hhalpin]
... we want to work on this problem.
15:40:59 [hhalpin]
ACTION: hhalpin to re-send Marcelo invited expert form
15:41:00 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-5 - Re-send Marcelo invited expert form [on Harry Halpin - due 2009-10-22].
15:41:40 [hhalpin]
Li Ma: formerly of IBM, will be joining the group as Invited Expert.
15:41:47 [hhalpin]
... participated in XG.
15:42:39 [hhalpin]
... worked for more 5 years
15:42:57 [hhalpin]
... was at IBM, now working on integrating databases
15:43:22 [hhalpin]
... have a paper at this year ISWC that describes our mapping approach
15:43:47 [hhalpin]
Zakim, next agendum
15:43:47 [Zakim]
agendum 2. ""Future Meetings"" taken up [from hhalpin]
15:44:20 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: spend a month and a half doing implementation work.
15:44:31 [hhalpin]
... next week is OpenLink and Orri
15:44:41 [hhalpin]
... will have anyone to post the links
15:44:46 [mhausenblas]
see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Initial_Round_of_Presentations
15:44:49 [hhalpin]
... just send them to harry to post
15:44:53 [hhalpin]
... a week if not more the presentation
15:45:37 [hhalpin]
... we also have D2R, Metamotix on the queue.
15:45:48 [hhalpin]
... we can still fit them in.
15:45:51 [hhalpin]
... send them in.
15:46:05 [hhalpin]
... give a paragraph of what group has done
15:46:14 [metatomix]
Also joined this group is Samir Batla. Batla has been leveraging ST for about 8-9 years in a solutions architect role - having been with Cerebra, Inc, Siderean Software and now Metatomix.
15:46:32 [hhalpin]
... sometime in Nov we will be done with that piece
15:46:41 [hhalpin]
... we need to pin down some of our goals.
15:46:50 [hhalpin]
... listed some of these in the announcment
15:46:53 [hhalpin]
... six items:
15:47:34 [hhalpin]
... we hope to have this by march
15:47:42 [hhalpin]
Michael: let's have discussions on the mailing list
15:48:13 [mhausenblas]
... and use the Wiki to collect it
15:49:07 [hhalpin]
... wiki is easier than mailing list
15:49:20 [hhalpin]
... for keeping track of some things.
15:49:42 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: How about things we end up not pursuing?
15:49:53 [hhalpin]
Michael: We will do a use-case and requirements.
15:50:18 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: any proposals for improving?
15:50:24 [hhalpin]
Michael: flag certain features
15:50:33 [hhalpin]
... to prioritize
15:50:53 [hhalpin]
ACTION: mhausenblas to add material to the Wiki
15:50:53 [trackbot]
Sorry, couldn't find user - mhausenblas
15:51:20 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: Anyone else wants to present?
15:51:27 [hhalpin]
ACTION: mhausenb to add material to the Wiki
15:51:27 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-6 - Add material to the Wiki [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2009-10-22].
15:51:52 [hhalpin]
Juan: I'd like to present
15:52:18 [hhalpin]
don't worry, I can fix things!
15:52:42 [hhalpin]
Juan: Do we want future meetings at this time?
15:52:47 [hhalpin]
... doesn't work for me too well.
15:53:15 [hhalpin]
q+
15:53:43 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: Hard to make everyone happy
15:54:01 [hhalpin]
... Juan, can you switch schedules?
15:54:14 [hhalpin]
ack hhalpin
15:54:55 [hhalpin]
Juan: I can lose this time.
15:55:35 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: I hope we can keep this time.
15:57:37 [hhalpin]
ACTION: hhalpin to send email out to europeans explaining daylight savings time.
15:57:40 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-7 - Send email out to europeans explaining daylight savings time. [on Harry Halpin - due 2009-10-22].
15:59:25 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: let's send e-mails out about the time
15:59:54 [hhalpin]
Michael: do we want to say each other's names?
16:00:08 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: try to use first name
16:00:12 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: I think we are done.
16:00:17 [hhalpin]
... Orri is next week!
16:00:39 [hhalpin]
... thanks everyone, triplify and D2RQ are afterwards.
16:00:46 [hhalpin]
... minutes will be made available.
16:00:50 [Zakim]
-marcelo
16:01:00 [hhalpin]
... next meeting we will send tomorrow.
16:01:12 [hhalpin]
Ahmed: Next time, to log into IRC beforehand.
16:01:22 [hhalpin]
... will start precisely 5 minutes later.
16:02:02 [hhalpin]
bye!
16:02:03 [Zakim]
-Ahmed
16:02:06 [Zakim]
-mhausenblas
16:02:08 [hhalpin]
Meeting Adjourned
16:02:09 [Zakim]
- +1.585.919.aakk
16:02:15 [Zakim]
-Seema
16:02:16 [marcelo]
I lost the phone connection
16:02:18 [Zakim]
-Souri
16:02:20 [hhalpin]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:02:20 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-minutes.html hhalpin
16:02:24 [Zakim]
-metatomix
16:02:29 [Zakim]
-angela
16:02:30 [Zakim]
-whalb
16:02:32 [hhalpin]
trackbot, end meeting
16:02:32 [trackbot]
Zakim, list attendees
16:02:33 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:02:33 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-minutes.html trackbot
16:02:34 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-actions.rdf :
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: hhalpin to re-send Marcelo invited expert form [1]
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc#T15-40-59
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: mhausenblas to add material to the Wiki [2]
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc#T15-50-53
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: mhausenb to add material to the Wiki [3]
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc#T15-51-27
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: hhalpin to send email out to europeans explaining daylight savings time. [4]
16:02:34 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc#T15-57-37
16:02:34 [Zakim]
-Joseph_Scheuhammer
16:02:37 [Zakim]
-jsequeda
16:02:41 [Zakim]
-hhalpin
16:02:49 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been +1.512.484.aaaa, +3539149aabb, Joseph_Scheuhammer, +3539149aacc, mhausenblas, jsequeda, Ahmed, +39.046.188.aadd, +1.603.897.aaee,
16:02:52 [Zakim]
... +043316876aaff, whalb, angela, +1.781.907.aagg, +1.603.897.aahh, +7.791.000.0.aaii, metatomix, Seema, +1.603.897.aajj, Souri, HH, hhalpin, +1.585.919.aakk, marcelo,