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13:42:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2
13:42:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:42:44 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:42:44 <trackbot> Date: 14 October 2009
13:43:22 <ShaneM> agenda?
13:43:26 <MoZ> Zakim, what's code?
13:43:26 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, MoZ.
13:43:35 <MoZ> Zakim, this will be xhtml
13:43:35 <Zakim> ok, MoZ; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:43:45 <MoZ> Zakim, what is the code?
13:43:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MoZ
13:44:02 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Oct/0010
13:44:11 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Oct/0010
13:44:17 <Steven> Chair: Steven
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13:45:42 <Steven> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:45:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
13:46:15 <ShaneM> zakim, you are stupid
13:46:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'you are stupid', ShaneM
13:46:25 <ShaneM> tina and I are both on the call
13:46:27 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
13:46:27 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
13:46:54 <Steven> zakim, who is on the call?
13:46:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
13:47:34 <Steven> Present: Shane, Markus, Tina, Steven
13:48:11 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
13:48:41 <Steven> Topic: Announcements
13:48:48 <Steven> Steven: New W3C website
13:50:14 <Steven> Steven: I'm away next week, you are free to meet if you want, but you'll have to arrange it, or take a week off
13:50:33 <Steven> Topic: PERs
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13:52:07 <Steven> Present+Moz
13:52:29 <Steven> Topic: XHR
13:52:47 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Oct/0009
13:57:23 <Steven> Steven: Do we need to reply?
13:58:27 <Steven> MoZ: It should not reference HTML5 normatively, regardless of our position on HTML5. The definitions paragraph with no idea of location in that (large) spec is nto good, and should be more specific.
13:59:14 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to respnd to AvK reply about XHR
13:59:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-100 - Respnd to AvK reply about XHR [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-10-21].
14:00:43 <Steven> Topic: Issues
14:01:12 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Oct/0010.html
14:02:06 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009May/0034
14:02:29 <Steven> Steven: Definitely done that
14:02:47 <Steven> Steven: We just need to prune these, I suspect we have done most in our earlier trawl through the db
14:03:00 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009May/0033
14:03:06 <Steven> Shane: Done
14:03:21 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Jun/0003
14:03:24 <Steven> Shane: Done
14:03:50 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JulSep/0003
14:03:58 <Steven> Shane: Done (also in XHTML 1.0
14:04:38 <Steven> ... ... but what do we do about that?)
14:04:49 <Steven> Steven: I'll invite you to the transition call to talk about it
14:05:04 <Steven> Steven: CURIE spec no longer relevant?
14:05:09 <Steven> Shane: Produce a note
14:05:49 <Steven> ... aren't we turning all our unfinished specs into notes?
14:06:06 <Steven> Steven: Most, but some are being given to others
14:07:49 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JulSep/0002
14:07:55 <Steven> Steven: Too late for that one
14:08:16 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JulSep/0001
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14:09:08 <Steven> Shane: All editorial. I'll incorporate them.
14:09:22 <Steven> ... if we're turning it into a note
14:09:27 <Zakim> bot restart in 2 minutes to recover bridge state
14:09:34 <Steven> Steven: I think it would be good to round it off.
14:10:00 <Steven> MoZ: RIF are using CURIEs
14:11:10 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/standards/techs/rif
14:12:30 <mgylling> http://www.w3.org/TR/rif-dtb/#The_Base_and_Prefix_Directives
14:12:31 <Steven> Steven: They use it in their syntax, but it is an informational reference...
14:12:54 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/rif-core/#Informational_References
14:13:25 <Steven> Steven: Markus's ref is normative
14:13:37 <Steven> ... interesting
14:14:38 <Steven> Shane: Maybe we could hand it to the planned RDFa WG
14:14:45 <Steven> Steven: That's a plan
14:15:17 <Steven> Markus: SMIL3 is using @role by the way
14:15:23 <Steven> Steven: Also interesting
14:16:23 <Steven> Steven: These are points worth raising with W3C when we go to the transition call
14:16:40 <mgylling> Reference to XHTML Role Module: http://www.w3.org/TR/SMIL/smil-daisy-profile.html
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14:17:11 <Steven> zakim, this is xhtml
14:17:11 <Zakim> Steven, IA_XHTML2()9:45AM is already associated with an irc channel; use 'move xhtml to here' if you mean to reassociate the channel
14:17:38 <Steven> zakim, move xhtml to here
14:17:39 <Zakim> ok, Steven; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:45AM
14:17:48 <Steven> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:17:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see McCarron, +0468645aaaa, +04670602aabb, Steven, +95247aacc
14:18:14 <MoZ> Zakim, aacc is me
14:18:14 <Zakim> +MoZ; got it
14:18:34 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009May/0028
14:18:38 <Steven> Steven: Is a 1.0 issue
14:18:59 <mgylling> Zakim, aabb is me
14:19:01 <Zakim> +mgylling; got it
14:19:01 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009May/0030
14:19:02 <Tina> Zakim, aaaa is me
14:19:02 <Zakim> +Tina; got it
14:19:05 <Steven> Steven: Ditto
14:19:41 <Steven> Steven: That leaqves one more issue, for XHTML2
14:19:43 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Jun/0017
14:20:49 <Steven> Tina: Our testing tool does test for it
14:22:11 <Steven> Steven: Oh he wants spaces instead of commas
14:22:50 <Steven> Shane: We can't change this; HTML4 is like this too
14:23:12 <Steven> Steven: I see his point, but I agree
14:23:50 <Steven> Shane: I will push a new version of CURIEs for the time being
14:24:13 <Steven> ... if others are referencing it normatively, 'm not sure if a note is a good idea
14:24:20 <Steven> Steven: They could change it to reference RDFa
14:24:37 <MoZ> Zakim, mute me
14:24:37 <Zakim> MoZ should now be muted
14:25:00 <MoZ> Zakim, unmute me
14:25:00 <Zakim> MoZ should no longer be muted
14:25:03 <Steven> Steven: THis is as afar as I know the first time we have cleared all issues that we know of...
14:25:08 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:25:14 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:25:21 <Steven> Steven: Reminder I will be away for one week
14:25:44 <Steven> Tina: Regrets for the next meeting in two weeks
14:25:59 <Steven> Tine: Where are we in the grand scheme of things
14:27:18 <Steven> MoZ: What are the possibilities of continuing the work?
14:30:10 <Steven> Steven: There are three possibilities
14:30:20 <Steven> Tine: I would prefer an org with some existing credibility
14:30:26 <Steven> s/Tine/Tina/
14:30:38 <Steven> Moz: ISO is a possibility
14:30:42 <Steven> Steven: Oasis too
14:32:15 <Steven> MoZ: For ISO you have to go via the national organization
14:32:25 <Steven> Steven: Oasis has individual membership
14:32:33 <Steven> ... which would be a lower barrier for entry
14:33:01 <Steven> Shane: ISO is also not very open
14:35:10 <Steven> Steven: Since I'll be working with Oasis on ODF, I'll see what is possible
14:38:55 <Zakim> -mgylling
14:38:56 <Zakim> -McCarron
14:38:59 <Zakim> -Tina
14:39:00 <Zakim> -Steven
14:39:00 <Zakim> -MoZ
14:39:00 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended
14:39:02 <Zakim> Attendees were McCarron, +0468645aaaa, +04670602aabb, Steven, +95247aacc, MoZ, mgylling, Tina
14:39:09 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:39:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
14:41:29 <Steven> i/Topic: XHR/Ongoing, no news yet
14:41:34 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:41:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
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