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13:43:28 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:43:28 <trackbot> Date: 30 September 2009
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13:43:33 <Steven> Cahri: Steven
13:43:36 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
13:44:26 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Sep/0024
13:44:31 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:44:56 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started
13:45:03 <Zakim> +ShaneM
13:45:40 <Zakim> + +1.617.588.aaaa - is perhaps hhalpin
13:45:58 <Zakim> +Tina
13:46:21 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
13:46:21 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
13:46:23 <Zakim> +Steven
13:47:07 <Steven> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:47:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see ShaneM, hhalpin, Tina, Steven
13:47:20 <mgylling> Zakim, aaaa is mgylling
13:47:20 <Zakim> sorry, mgylling, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
13:47:31 <Steven> zakim, hhalpin is mgylling
13:47:31 <Zakim> +mgylling; got it
13:47:38 <Steven> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:47:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see ShaneM, mgylling, Tina, Steven
13:49:09 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml11-20090916/xhtml11.html#strict
13:49:13 <Steven> Topic: PERs
13:49:25 <Steven> Steven: I see an issue still
13:49:47 <ShaneM> Let's not forget about @name on img and form.  If we plan to reintroduce those we need to PER M12N first I think...
13:53:25 <Steven> Steven: So DOCTYPE is now required again, so @version isn't so needed anymore
13:53:47 <Steven> ... so do we make it a SHOULD, a MAY, or delete it?
13:55:54 <Steven> tINA: i'D LIKE TO SEE A BRIDGE TO xhtml2 HERE
13:56:26 <Steven> Steven: The problem is that XHTML2 is not describabl;e with DTDs
13:56:47 <Steven> Tina: Can't we use the DOCTYPE just as an identifier?
13:56:58 <Steven> Shane: Not really
13:57:16 <Steven> Shane: So should @version be a SHOULDor MAY?
13:57:25 <Steven> Steven: MAY is good enough to provide the bridge
13:57:32 <Steven> s/Dor/D or/
13:59:16 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-basic-20090916/xhtml-basic-rec-diff.html#s_xhtmlmodules
13:59:48 <Steven> "When this attribute and the ↑↑ xml:lang ↑↑ are"
14:02:45 <Steven> PROPOSAL: The WG resolves to send these three WDs to PR, once that M12N has been reissued to resolve the remaining issues in that.
14:02:57 <Steven> Steven: In favour?
14:03:00 <mgylling> +1
14:03:06 <Steven> +1
14:03:09 <Tina> +1
14:03:29 <ShaneM> +1
14:03:34 <Steven> s/PR/PER/
14:04:52 <ShaneM> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?user=guest;statetype=-2;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
14:05:20 <Steven> RESOLUTION: TO send the current there specs to PER once M12N has been reissued
14:05:29 <Steven> s/TO/To/
14:05:36 <Steven> TOPIC: M12n issues
14:06:29 <Steven> Shane: Bjoern may have mentioned things that are not in the tracker, because they've never been reported
14:06:36 <Steven> ... some issues are old
14:07:59 <Steven> ... the issue on usemap and its datatype is oen we need to get out
14:08:05 <Steven> s/oen/one/
14:08:08 <ShaneM> @class and its datatype
14:08:18 <ShaneM> @name on img and form
14:12:05 <ShaneM> @profile is defined as URIs - a space separated list of URIs
14:12:21 <ShaneM> happy to produce RNG as a note.  it is basically complete.
14:14:00 <Steven> Steven: I think that one of the implementations of @profile is wrong
14:14:07 <Steven> Shane: Ah. I'll fix it right now
14:14:49 <Steven> Topic: Issue 10214
14:14:50 <Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=10214;user=guest;statetype=-2;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
14:15:20 <Steven> Steven: The problem is that class should be able to be empty
14:15:25 <Steven> Shane: Exactly
14:16:12 <Steven> Steven: So we just agree with this commetn right?
14:16:17 <Steven> s/tn/nt/
14:17:16 <Steven> Topic: Issue 10005
14:17:17 <Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=10005;user=guest;statetype=-2;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
14:18:23 <Steven> Shane: Checking... these are all there
14:18:34 <Steven> Steven: So this is just an issue that we forgot to close
14:18:43 <Steven> Shane: Yes
14:18:49 <Steven> Steven: Hereby closed
14:19:15 <Steven> Topic: Issue 10001
14:19:23 <Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=10001;user=guest;statetype=-2;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
14:19:30 <Steven> Shane: I think we decided not to do this
14:20:58 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstract_modules.html#s_legacymodule
14:21:15 <Steven> Steven: Is legacy only elements,. or also attributes?
14:21:21 <Steven> Shane: No also some attributes
14:22:02 <Steven> Steven: Nice suggestion, but this is a PER.
14:22:20 <Steven> ... but there is always M12Nv2
14:22:28 <Steven> Shane: Right
14:24:54 <Steven> Shane: We missed these out, they aren't anywhere else
14:25:01 <Steven> Steven: Oh! THen that's different
14:25:11 <Steven> ... then we should fix it
14:25:16 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:25:29 <Steven> SHane: OK
14:25:43 <Steven> Shane: ANy objections?
14:25:48 <Steven> {none]
14:25:55 <Steven> Topic: Issue 9711
14:26:03 <Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=9711;user=guest;statetype=-2;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
14:26:55 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstract_modules.html#s_bdomodule
14:27:24 <Steven> Shane: He's right, dir is not required
14:28:53 <Steven> Topic: 8422
14:28:55 <Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=8422;user=guest;statetype=-2;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
14:30:41 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/imagemap/results
14:31:29 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/imagemap/
14:32:11 <mgylling> http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/map.html
14:32:21 <Steven> Shane: What does HTML5 do?
14:34:12 <Steven> Steven: #name
14:36:49 <Steven> Steven: So what type do we use? CDATA with a restriction, or a URI referehnce with a restriction?
14:37:05 <Steven> Markus: It is a URI, so the URI with a restriction would be the rpoper thing to do
14:37:16 <Steven> s/rp/pr/
14:37:42 <Steven> Topic: Issue 650
14:37:52 <Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=650;user=guest;statetype=-2;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
14:37:55 <Steven> Steven: Same thing
14:39:15 <Steven> Shane: I'm going to call it a fragment reference, from the URI spec
14:40:12 <Steven> Topic: Issue 598
14:40:16 <Steven> Shane: A non-issue
14:40:35 <Steven> ... already supported
14:40:53 <Steven> Topic: Issue 480
14:40:59 <Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues/Modularization-abstractions?id=480;user=guest;statetype=-2;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
14:41:05 <Steven> Shane: Already dealt with
14:41:15 <Steven> Steven: Done!
14:41:19 <Steven> ... Good work
14:41:30 <Steven> Shane: I will update M12N today
14:41:42 <Steven> ...and post an email to say I've done it
14:42:04 <Zakim> -Steven
14:42:06 <Zakim> -ShaneM
14:42:06 <Zakim> -mgylling
14:42:08 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended
14:42:09 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, +1.617.588.aaaa, Tina, Steven, mgylling
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14:42:44 <Steven> Regrets: MoZ
14:43:33 <Steven> s/tINA: i'D LIKE TO SEE A BRIDGE TO xhtml2 HERE/Tina: I'd like to see a bridge to XHTML2 here
14:43:57 <Steven> s/current there/current three/
14:44:21 <Steven> s/ANy/Any/
14:44:45 <Steven> s/referehnce/reference
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