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12:59:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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12:59:32 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
12:59:32 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
12:59:33 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference
12:59:33 <trackbot> Date: 30 September 2009
13:00:03 <darobin> crap, I'm still an hour early!
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13:33:42 <fhirsch> zakim, this will be dap
13:33:42 <Zakim> ok, fhirsch; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 27 minutes
13:36:52 <darobin> yes, clearly PEBCAK in this case
13:37:00 <fhirsch> fhirsch has changed the topic to: DAP Teleconference code 3279 Agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Sep/0124.html ; please enter attendance with Present+ first_last , also please tell zakim who you are with zakim, aaa is handle ; for the phone bridge
13:37:34 <darobin> but last week I was fine and made exactly the same mistake
13:37:46 <darobin> so let's not presume that it's affecting my abilities in any way :)
13:38:10 <fhirsch> Chair: Robin Berjon, Frederick Hirsch
13:38:38 <fhirsch> Present: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch, Dominique_Hazaël-Massieux
13:39:30 <darobin> Regrets: TLR, Kangchan_Lee
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13:40:59 <fhirsch> Regrets: Thomas_Roessler, Arve_Bersvendsen, Kangchan_Lee
13:41:59 <fhirsch> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Sep/0124.html
13:51:25 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
13:51:32 <Zakim> +Frederick_Hirsch
13:51:34 <Zakim> -Frederick_Hirsch
13:51:35 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
13:51:35 <Zakim> Attendees were Frederick_Hirsch
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13:52:05 <MarcoMarengo> Present+ MarcoMarengo
13:53:13 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
13:53:20 <Zakim> +marengo
13:53:36 <MarcoMarengo> Zakim, mute me
13:53:36 <Zakim> sorry, MarcoMarengo, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
13:54:00 <dom> Zakim, marengo is MarcoMarengo
13:54:00 <Zakim> +MarcoMarengo; got it
13:54:08 <MarcoMarengo> thnx
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13:56:15 <Zakim> +AnssiK
13:56:37 <Zakim> +??P39
13:56:46 <fhirsch> zakim, ??P39 is fjh
13:56:46 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
13:57:01 <MarcoMarengo> Zakim, mute me
13:57:01 <Zakim> MarcoMarengo should now be muted
13:57:24 <fhirsch> zakim, mute me
13:57:24 <Zakim> sorry, fhirsch, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
13:57:26 <Zakim> + +1.617.588.aaaa - is perhaps mgylling
13:57:33 <fhirsch> zakim, fhirsch is fjh
13:57:33 <Zakim> sorry, fhirsch, I do not recognize a party named 'fhirsch'
13:57:40 <fhirsch> zakim, fjh is fhirsch
13:57:40 <Zakim> +fhirsch; got it
13:57:44 <fhirsch> zakim, mute me
13:57:44 <Zakim> fhirsch should now be muted
13:58:00 <fhirsch> zakim, unmute me
13:58:01 <Zakim> +ilkka
13:58:03 <Zakim> fhirsch should no longer be muted
13:58:07 <darobin> Zakim, who's here?
13:58:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see MarcoMarengo (muted), AnssiK (muted), fhirsch, mgylling, ilkka
13:58:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see wonsuk, MarcoMarengo, JereK, fhirsch, AnssiK, Zakim, RRSAgent, darobin, tlr, arve, blassey, maxf, ilkka, arg, trackbot, dom
13:58:24 <darobin> this is weird, I don't show up!
13:58:52 <darobin> zakim, who's making noise?
13:58:56 <Zakim> +wonsuk
13:59:03 <Zakim> darobin, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fhirsch (1%)
13:59:05 <Zakim> +StephenLewontin
13:59:31 <darobin> Present+ StephenLewontin
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13:59:47 <Zakim> +JereK
13:59:54 <JereK> Present+ Jere_Kapyaho
14:00:14 <LauraArribas> Present+ LauraArribas
14:00:42 <Zakim> +Dom
14:00:48 <Zakim> +richt
14:00:51 <dom> zakim, who's on the call?
14:00:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see MarcoMarengo (muted), AnssiK (muted), fhirsch, mgylling, ilkka, wonsuk, StephenLewontin, JereK, Dom, richt
14:00:55 <hui_miao> hui_miao has joined #dap
14:01:01 <darobin> Zakim, who's making noise?
14:01:12 <Zakim> darobin, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fhirsch (5%), JereK (14%), Dom (65%)
14:01:14 <Zakim> +maxf
14:01:24 <brianleroux> brianleroux has joined #dap
14:01:32 <darobin> JereK: you would make a great scribe!
14:01:42 <JereK> yes! :-)
14:01:45 <dom> s/JereK:/JereK,/
14:01:52 <brianleroux> +Brian_LeRoux
14:02:03 <paddy> paddy has joined #dap
14:02:14 <richt> richt has joined #dap
14:02:33 <Zakim> +??P51
14:02:35 <darobin> Scribe: Jere
14:02:35 <Zakim> +LauraArribas
14:02:40 <darobin> ScribeNick: JereK 
14:02:46 <Zakim> +??P54
14:02:48 <Zakim> +Ingmar_Kliche
14:03:01 <hui_miao> Present+ hui_miao
14:03:14 <hui_miao> Zakim, ??P51 is hui_miao
14:03:14 <richt> +Richard_Tibbett
14:03:14 <Zakim> +hui_miao; got it
14:03:35 <brianleroux> will not be able to call in due to family noise pollution / hope thats ok =)
14:03:37 <claudio> claudio has joined #dap
14:03:38 <richt> +richt
14:03:42 <Zakim> +marcin2
14:03:57 <ingmar> ingmar has joined #dap
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14:04:08 <JereK> TOPIC: Announcements
14:04:18 <fhirsch> dial in questionnaire 
14:04:18 <fhirsch> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/phonetpac2009/?
14:04:31 <JereK> fhirsch: TPAC coming up, please register and fill in phone-in questionnaire
14:04:32 <fhirsch> reminder about tpac 
14:04:33 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2009Sep/0000.html
14:04:35 <dom> [note that the number of hotel rooms blocked for TPAC is going down rapidly]
14:04:35 <AnssiK> should people who will be attending f2f submit the questionnaire?
14:04:47 <marcin> Present+ Marcin_Hanclik
14:04:51 <JereK> fhirsch: DAP meeting as originally scheduled
14:04:52 <paddy> Present+ Paddy_Byers
14:04:54 <ingmar> Present+Ingmar_Kliche
14:04:56 <JereK> TOPIC: Minutes approval
14:04:58 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Sep/0122.html
14:05:10 <JereK> fhirsch: minutes sent out yesterday, approval?
14:05:22 <drogersuk> Present+ David_Rogers
14:05:30 <richt> Present+ Richard_Tibbett
14:05:30 <JereK> RESOLUTION: minutes of Sep 29 approved
14:05:47 <JereK> TOPIC: Editorial team report
14:05:51 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.01.aabb - is perhaps Claes?
14:06:14 <JereK> fhirsch: one other person wanted to join editorial team?
14:06:17 <Zakim> +??P59
14:06:21 <Zakim> +DzungTran
14:06:23 <JereK> darobin: Anselm
14:06:36 <JereK> fhirsch: need to join W3C first, all help welcome
14:06:46 <JereK> ... need to talk with Dom or tlr first
14:06:54 <Claes> Claes has joined #dap
14:07:03 <JereK> TOPIC: Action items
14:07:20 <JereK> fhirsch: should move actions to pending
14:07:36 <JereK> ... when completed, please send mail to list to let ppl know what you've done
14:07:42 <JereK> ... helps with follow-up
14:08:03 <JereK> TOPIC: Policy Segment
14:08:25 <JereK> fhirsch: some open action items remain, discussion about possible additional material needed
14:08:42 <JereK> ... some decisions we have to make
14:08:49 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Sep/0126.html
14:08:55 <claudio> Present+ Claudio_Venezia
14:08:55 <Claes> Present+ Claes_Nilsson
14:08:55 <JereK> ... looked at high-level material of the inputs
14:09:10 <JereK> ... someone from BONDI please give info about 1.01
14:09:38 <dtran> dtran has joined #dap
14:09:40 <JereK> ... e-mail summarizes points so far, but doesn't cover everything
14:09:58 <JereK> ... one of the big ones is do we need both capabilities for both APIs and device
14:10:01 <drogersuk> I'll give you some more info on the diffs between 1.01 and 1.0 via email
14:10:08 <drogersuk> (for BONDI)
14:10:18 <JereK> ... don't know if it's issue for WG, but want discussion on the mailing list
14:11:08 <JereK> ... reading items from list quickly
14:11:50 <JereK> ... bunch of Qs about identification, would like to see a mail thread started about it
14:11:56 <JereK> ... language independence
14:12:05 <JereK> ... use XML for policy, worth discussion
14:12:29 <JereK> ... thread about separate policy decision exists
14:12:59 <JereK> ... can someone take an action to summarize HTML5 security policy?
14:13:19 <JereK> ... need actions to move things forward
14:13:44 <JereK> ... thanks David for the diff information, any more detail would be useful
14:13:46 <darobin> ACTION: David to provide diffs for the BONDI versions
14:13:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - Provide diffs for the BONDI versions [on David Rogers - due 2009-10-07].
14:14:08 <paddy> I can start a discussion on features/device capabilities
14:14:15 <JereK> ... now would be a good time to discuss
14:14:16 <dom> zakim, who is making noise?
14:14:27 <Zakim> dom, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fhirsch (21%), StephenLewontin (93%), JereK (14%)
14:14:27 <drogersuk> can't hear a thing
14:14:30 <hendry> hendry has joined #dap
14:14:32 <dom> zakim, mute StephenLewontin
14:14:32 <Zakim> StephenLewontin should now be muted
14:14:40 <drogersuk> ok
14:15:11 <darobin> ACTION: Paddy to open an issue and start a discussion on features/device capabilities
14:15:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Open an issue and start a discussion on features/device capabilities [on Paddy Byers - due 2009-10-07].
14:15:21 <JereK> fhirsch: link to TAG discussion regarding policy sent by Robin
14:15:35 <JereK> ... has been a big issue in Geolocation, concerns retaining information
14:15:47 <JereK> ... anybody in the position to take actions related to policy?
14:16:06 <JereK> darobin: Paddy took an action about features/device capabilities
14:16:29 <fhirsch> need help with identifying APIs, Capabilities, FEaturews by URI
14:16:39 <Zakim> -maxf
14:16:53 <JereK> fhirsch: maybe also related WebIDL stuff
14:17:07 <JereK> darobin: no WebIDL stuff in this, not in terms of URIs
14:17:18 <JereK> fhirsch: could use help with this
14:17:37 <JereK> darobin: should probably open this as an issue, what levels of granularity for identification
14:18:01 <JereK> fhirsch: granularity of access control
14:18:23 <JereK> ... need to talk this through on the list, more than one person can do this
14:18:34 <JereK> ... get stuff done and see what's wrong with it
14:18:51 <JereK> ... can go quicker if we have something to disagree
14:19:10 <JereK> StephenLewontin: volunteer to help with the HTML5 security
14:19:25 <dom> ACTION: Stephen to look into HTML5 security model
14:19:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-24 - Look into HTML5 security model [on stephen lewontin - due 2009-10-07].
14:19:29 <marcin> q+
14:19:49 <JereK> SteveLewontin: need any requirements for capability semantics?
14:19:54 <Zakim> -Claes?
14:19:59 <JereK> ... how are those defined, just recommendations?
14:20:02 <Zakim> +maxf
14:20:12 <JereK> fhirsch: clearly have to say what we mean
14:20:15 <maxf> zakim, mute me
14:20:15 <Zakim> maxf should now be muted
14:20:24 <Zakim> + +1.801.756.aacc
14:20:31 <fhirsch> issue: policy, need to define semantics of capabilities or not
14:20:32 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-24 - Policy, need to define semantics of capabilities or not ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/24/edit .
14:20:39 <JereK> SteveLewontin: will put this in writing, need to make a decision about the semantics of capabilities
14:20:52 <dom> ACTION-24 due in two weeks
14:20:52 <trackbot> ACTION-24 Look into HTML5 security model due date now in two weeks
14:20:54 <fhirsch> ack marcin
14:20:56 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.01.aadd - is perhaps Claes?
14:20:57 <JereK> ... will make an effort to do the action in two weeks
14:21:18 <JereK> marcin: currently discussions in BONDI around features and capabilities for 1.1
14:21:31 <JereK> ... white paper to highlight topics in progress
14:21:36 <Claes> zakim, Claes is handle
14:21:36 <Zakim> +handle; got it
14:21:52 <JereK> ... needs some additions due to recent input, could use it as input for this in DAP
14:22:04 <JereK> .. doable by next week's call
14:22:08 <dom> ACTION: marcin to provide BONDI white paper on features and capabilities
14:22:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-25 - Provide BONDI white paper on features and capabilities [on Marcin Hanclik - due 2009-10-07].
14:22:32 <fhirsch> q?
14:22:35 <JereK> fhirsch: thanks Marcin
14:22:45 <JereK> ... back to the list
14:23:02 <JereK> ... another big one is trusted identity and trust
14:23:14 <JereK> ... don't want PKI, but need to see how far to go in this direction
14:23:50 <JereK> ... don't think there's any disagremeent in separating policy, the BONDI ones are straightforward
14:24:07 <JereK> ... would be helpful to get the material from people
14:24:30 <JereK> ... would be good to have a proposal when you create the issue, will send mail about this
14:24:43 <JereK> ... will be more productive that way
14:24:48 <JereK> ... any other comments about policy?
14:24:52 <JereK> No
14:25:07 <JereK> TOPIC: API Segment
14:25:14 <dom> ISSUE-12?
14:25:14 <trackbot> ISSUE-12 -- Gathering requirements for Gallery API -- OPEN
14:25:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/12
14:25:30 <JereK> darobin: how do we orthogonalize API design so that policy is still workable
14:25:46 <JereK> ... example is user grants access to gallery, depends on while
14:26:03 <JereK> ... simplest thing is to ignore the issue and hope policy system handles, but could be too simplistic
14:26:08 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/mid/53714B75-E7DC-4B1F-BB53-B3C79ECD272D@robineko.com
14:26:15 <JereK> ... suggested to raise an issue about this, link above
14:26:19 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/mid/355A518BC0575547B2A3D6773AAF8EEF463F2B@ftrdmel1
14:26:27 <JereK> ... Richard raised another issue, link above
14:26:43 <darobin> ISSUE: Orthogonality of API and Policy systems when an API has dependencies on other APIs
14:26:43 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-25 - Orthogonality of API and Policy systems when an API has dependencies on other APIs ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/25/edit .
14:26:46 <richt> q+
14:26:55 <darobin> ack richt 
14:27:12 <JereK> richt: let's call it cross-module dependencies and impact on policy
14:27:18 <JereK> darobin: means what you just said
14:27:42 <JereK> richt: and the grouping of features and capabilities if that's relevant
14:27:48 <JereK> darobin: now updated with the correct name
14:27:51 <fhirsch> issue-25 grant access to gallery yet gallery depends on file, is this implicit
14:27:59 <JereK> ... potentially complicated enough to discuss by mail not by phone
14:28:18 <JereK> ... would like to note that this has also been discussed in BONDI, input from those people welcome
14:28:26 <marcin> q+
14:28:35 <darobin> ack marcin 
14:28:48 <JereK> marcin: issue 25 is related to discussion about policy, could combine them
14:29:13 <fhirsch> yes it is policy related
14:29:19 <JereK> darobin: definitely, depending on decision about policy power, API could be designed to be free of policy issues, but also the other way around
14:29:24 <fhirsch> action-25?
14:29:24 <trackbot> ACTION-25 -- Marcin Hanclik to provide BONDI white paper on features and capabilities -- due 2009-10-07 -- OPEN
14:29:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/25
14:29:29 <JereK> marcin: issue 25 is related to action 25
14:29:35 <JereK> darobin: lucky strike
14:30:00 <JereK> darobin: thanks Marcin
14:30:14 <JereK> ... question of umbrella requirements document for APIs, any objections?
14:30:20 <dtran> Dzung Tran is on the phone (muted)
14:30:44 <fhirsch> yes
14:30:50 <JereK> Agreement
14:31:09 <fhirsch> s/yes/yes to Robin's question, no objection
14:31:15 <JereK> darobin: will check document to IRC so that Bryan has something to work with, then move forward
14:31:37 <JereK> ... many requirements gathering issues, 7, 14, etc., discussions ongoing
14:31:49 <JereK> ... anyone have any issue they'd like to bring up regarding API reqs?
14:31:49 <dom> (umbrella req document relates to ISSUE-22, which I assume can now be closed)
14:31:58 <JereK> [None]
14:32:00 <richt> q+
14:32:07 <darobin> ack richt 
14:32:29 <JereK> richt: discussion about System Information led to asynchronicity
14:32:41 <JereK> ... could be something to discuss in the umbrella document
14:32:46 <JereK> darobin: issue 14?
14:33:01 <JereK> ... that should move to 'applies to all APIs' section, agreed
14:33:10 <JereK> ... anything else on API reqs?
14:33:14 <JereK> [None]
14:33:34 <JereK> darobin: will coordinate with Bryan about the reqs posted so far, then start fleshing out the real APIs
14:33:41 <JereK> ... anything further on APIs?
14:33:45 <JereK> [None]
14:33:56 <JereK> TOPIC: Issue review
14:34:09 <JereK> fhirsch: no need to go one by one
14:34:18 <fhirsch> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/open
14:34:18 <JereK> ... but not that many, just ask status
14:34:37 <JereK> darobin: three quarters are those justed talked about in the API section, doesn't leave much
14:34:44 <JereK> s/justed/just/
14:34:45 <dom> s/issue 14/issue-14/
14:34:48 <Zakim> +maxf.a
14:35:00 <maxf> zakim, drop maxf
14:35:00 <Zakim> maxf is being disconnected
14:35:02 <Zakim> -maxf
14:35:04 <JereK> fhirsch; talk about error handling, but might make sense to wait
14:35:13 <JereK> darobin: error handling better discussed in e-mail
14:35:13 <maxf> zakim, maxf.a is me
14:35:13 <Zakim> +maxf; got it
14:35:39 <JereK> ... there was the beginning of a thread, ISSUE-2
14:35:43 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/mid/20090825130743.01C355F76D@stu.w3.org
14:35:55 <JereK> fhirsch: relationship of error handling to security and leakage of information?
14:36:00 <JereK> ... any talk in BONDI?
14:36:15 <JereK> darobin: hasn't been discussed as ISSUE-2, not sure about BONDI
14:36:26 <JereK> fhirsch: maybe less important now than other things
14:36:43 <JereK> ... end the call early if we run out of topics, continue actively on the list
14:37:05 <JereK> ... need to get enough material on the list to have a meaningful call
14:37:08 <JereK> darobin: agreed
14:37:17 <JereK> fhirsch: any concerns or issues to raise?
14:37:23 <JereK> [None]
14:37:33 <JereK> fhirsch; work on the issue and post on the list
14:37:37 <JereK> darobin: great idea
14:37:41 <richt> Congraulations to Arve :-)
14:37:50 <dom> s/fhirsch;/ fhirsch:/
14:37:54 <JereK> darobin: adjourned
14:37:54 <Zakim> -LauraArribas
14:37:57 <Zakim> -??P54
14:38:03 <dom> s/ fhirsch:/fhirsch:/
14:38:11 <JereK> TOPIC: Other Business
14:38:13 <JereK> [None]
14:38:17 <JereK> TOPIC: Adjourn
14:38:18 <Zakim> -Dom
14:38:27 <brianleroux> goodbye
14:38:31 <Zakim> -maxf
14:38:33 <Zakim> -StephenLewontin
14:38:34 <Zakim> -marcin2
14:38:35 <Zakim> -mgylling
14:38:35 <Zakim> -fhirsch
14:38:37 <Zakim> -ilkka
14:38:38 <Zakim> -Ingmar_Kliche
14:38:38 <Zakim> -??P59
14:38:39 <Zakim> -MarcoMarengo
14:38:40 <marcin> bye
14:38:42 <Zakim> -DzungTran
14:38:43 <darobin> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:38:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-dap-minutes.html darobin
14:38:46 <Zakim> - +1.801.756.aacc
14:38:48 <Zakim> -richt
14:38:50 <Zakim> -Claes
14:38:52 <Zakim> -AnssiK
14:38:55 <darobin> RRSAgent, make minutes public
14:38:55 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', darobin.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:39:00 <darobin> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:39:04 <darobin> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:39:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-dap-minutes.html darobin
14:39:04 <Zakim> -hui_miao
14:39:29 <dtran> quick question: how do you map your handle ??:59 to Dzung Tran
14:39:36 <hendry> hendry has left #dap
14:40:04 <Zakim> -JereK
14:40:17 <fhirsch> zakim, ??P59 is dtran
14:40:17 <Zakim> I already had ??P59 as ??P59, fhirsch
14:40:29 <fhirsch> zakim, ??:59 is dtran
14:40:29 <Zakim> sorry, fhirsch, I do not recognize a party named '??:59'
14:40:49 <dtran> Sorry, 
14:40:55 <dtran> I guess I am 59
14:41:00 <dtran> which is Dzung Tran
14:41:18 <darobin> Zakim, drop wonsuk 
14:41:20 <Zakim> wonsuk is being disconnected
14:41:22 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
14:41:24 <Zakim> Attendees were MarcoMarengo, AnssiK, +1.617.588.aaaa, fhirsch, ilkka, wonsuk, StephenLewontin, JereK, Dom, richt, maxf, LauraArribas, Ingmar_Kliche, hui_miao, marcin2,
14:41:29 <Zakim> ... +46.1.08.01.aabb, DzungTran, +1.801.756.aacc, +46.1.08.01.aadd, Claes
14:41:39 <drogersuk> I was 54 i think
14:41:47 <fhirsch> :)
14:42:06 <darobin> drogersuk: you look younger though
14:42:15 <drogersuk> regular shaving
14:42:17 <drogersuk> lol
14:42:20 <darobin> RRSAgent: bye
14:42:20 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-dap-actions.rdf :
14:42:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David to provide diffs for the BONDI versions [1]
14:42:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-dap-irc#T14-13-46
14:42:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Paddy to open an issue and start a discussion on features/device capabilities [2]
14:42:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-dap-irc#T14-15-11
14:42:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Stephen to look into HTML5 security model [3]
14:42:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-dap-irc#T14-19-25
14:42:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: marcin to provide BONDI white paper on features and capabilities [4]
14:42:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-dap-irc#T14-22-08